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1991-09-14 Florida St 58 Western Michigan 0
1991-09-14 North Carolina St 47 Kent 0
1991-10-19 North Carolina St 15 Marshall 14
1992-09-05 Clemson 24 Ball St 10
1993-09-04 North Carolina 44 Ohio 3
1993-10-02 Virginia 41 Ohio 7
1993-10-16 North Carolina St 24 Marshall 17
1994-09-01 North Carolina St 20 Bowling Green St 15
1995-08-31 North Carolina St 33 Marshall 16
1995-09-30 North Carolina 62 Ohio 0
1996-08-31 Maryland 30 Northern Illinois 6
1996-09-07 Virginia 55 Central Michigan 21
1997-09-06 Maryland 14 Ohio 21
1997-09-20 North Carolina St 41 Northern Illinois 14
1998-09-03 North Carolina St 34 Ohio 31
1998-09-05 North Carolina 10 Miami-Ohio 13
1999-09-04 Clemson 10 Marshall 13
1999-11-13 Virginia 50 Buffalo 21
2000-09-23 North Carolina 20 Marshall 15
2001-09-08 Maryland 50 Eastern Michigan 3
2001-11-24 North Carolina St 27 Ohio 20
2001-11-24 Wake Forest 38 Northern Illinois 35
TOTAL MAC: 3-19 ACC


The MAC is 3 wins and 19 losses against the ACC!

and this has what to do with the Rockets???

Stick4489 possted that the MAC was superior to the ACC. I have another poster at BYU board that goes by rocketfootball. Sorry about the "pop rocket" take except that Toledo is in the MAC.

2002-08-31 North Carolina 21, Miami 27

No ACC school ever has visited Oxford for football. I'm sure Brad Bates would be happy to discuss terms with any of your ADs.

socalbyu Wrote:Stick4489 possted that the MAC was superior to the ACC. I have another poster at BYU board that goes by rocketfootball. Sorry about the "pop rocket" take except that Toledo is in the MAC.

Toledo is in the MAC but has never played an ACC team.

Socalbyu - if you look at the earlier posts in this thread you will see that this was all a joke.

Yes I have made some posts on the BYU board with you. At first I was just making conversation, then I started having some fun with you. Don't take me too seriously man. This is a message board and everyone has pride for their own football team. Besides, if Marshall fans took me seriously I probably would have been jumped and beat up by now!

Here is an unbelievable MAC fact. Since 1989 (13 seasons), only 5 different schools have won the MAC. They are as follows:

Marshall (5 times) 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002
Toledo (3 times) 1990*, 1995, 2001
Central Michigan (2 times) 1990*, 1994
Bowling Green (2 times) 1991, 1992
Ball State (2 times) 1989, 1993

Looking at those teams when they won the MAC and their record against ACC teams in those seasons:

Toledo = 0-0 (no games played ever)
Marshall = 1-1 (beat Clemson 13-10 in '99 and lost to UNC 20-15 in 2000)
Bowling Green = 0-0
Central Michigan = 0-0
Ball State = 0-0

Most of those games you listed were against MAC teams that are not very good. The exceptions are:

Marshall's games in '99 and 2000
Miami's win over UNC in '98
Wake's win over Northern Illinois in 2001

I noticed that Northern Illinois' win over Wake in 2002 was not listed. Neither was Miami's win over UNC in 2002. Both of those games were against quality MAC teams.

So quality MAC teams against ACC teams since 1989 are:

4 wins for the MAC and 2 wins for the ACC. This proves that there are some MAC teams that can beat ACC teams on any given day.

I am not crazy enough to say that the MAC is better than the ACC though. Only Marshall fans are that crazy!