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I don't know if you've heard this, but two radio reporters in Kansas City- Bob Fescoe and Rhonda Moss- just had their credentials taken away from them by the Kansas City Royals.

Their sin was presenting tough questioning at a press conference.

This is absurd and many organizations have gone to bat for them, but it reminds me what David Mullins did for me.

I realize it is a bit odd for a guy in the media to post on here like this. However, we have brought out several other media members and coaches on here at times and this has become- by all intents and purposes- a dream blog.

Since the other "open forum" medium in town- talk radio- does not have any teeth- this is it.

It's also the reason why Mullins hates me. Without these boards football would have been completely buried and people would still want George Pitts to be the ETSU basketball coach.

If you're not aware- I had covered ETSU- usually on my own dime- since 1996 as a radio reporter, then as a columnist for Sports Talk- back when that meant something.

They quit credentialling me when Mullins took over because he knew how critical I was of dropping football.

I basically was never told why they did this to me- but there were two main items of speculation.

One- A post I made on a board about Tim Mullins.

I have no real idea who Tim Mullins is. I never met him.

I do remember writing a column critical of him when he was involved in taking away critical placards from the student section during a basketball game.

The fact of the matter is whatever I said about Mullins- and I challenge anyone to produce it (it's probably still up there)- was tounge in cheek. Furthermore, since when do you take away a reporter's credentials because of something he says in jest on a forum such as this?

Two- The real reason- what Mike White told me when I asked for credentials and he said- off the record- that it was because of the comments I made on forums like this.

So, in other words, Bill Meade can criticize ETSU for playing football games indoors and hiring Ed DeChellis over George Pitts- and even program Science Hill games over ETSU at one point- and they'll make him the PBP man when Jay is in Iraq.

But I can't be critical of destroying the athletic program in a private forum.

I see.

But there is a parallel here to what Mullins did to me and what the Royals did to these two reporters. Both losing athletic entities embarassed themselves and reacted to reporters who challenged their incompetence.

We also saw how gutless the Tri-Cities media is for not picking up on my plight and rallying to my defense. So instead we see Kelly Hodge ignoring it and writing the company line in his columns where he interviews David Mullins and lets him have a forum unchecked with no other sources quoted.

What is ETSU going to do if he doesn't mail in his coverage of the team? Quit credentialing him?

HO! HO! You want to talk about the move that would cut off their nose to spite their face- assuming Hodge wouldn't say "I'm sorry. Yes Mr. Mullins- I'll send Joe Avento."

I dont have a current forum to cover ETSU. To tell you the truth I'm not looking for one. So being credentialed or not being credentialed doesn't mean a whole lot to me right now. It did then from a professional standpoint, it doesn't now.

But I write this post because we all know how incompetent the Royals are. And the Football Foundation is going to need all the help they can get to put down the demons that would doom them.

So here's my part. The Royals-ETSU comparison is valid.

Only the Royals fell to reach this point. David Mullins-led ETSU began here and then just went lower.
Wow nice spin attempt Pitt. You lost your press credentials several months before Tim Mullins died. You lost you job at Sports Talk (and got banned from the board) for you comments on the board about Tim Mullins. Tim Mullins died on 3/11/2004. Dave Mullins became AD in April 2003. Not sure when you got booted but I know you were complaining about by Oct. 2003. Seems like there was something about a phone call to a a member of the volleyball team as being part of the reason you lost your press credentials. At least that is what I have heard that White told others in the department.
And since you asked.

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From the Kingsport Times News:

Timothy L. Mullins, 47, Johnson City.

JOHNSON CITY - Timothy (Tim) L. Mullins, 48, died Thursday (March 11, 2004) of an apparent heart attack.

Tim was a member of West Colonial Hills Baptist Church and was NCAA Compliance Coordinator Athletic Department at East Tennessee State University.

Tim was preceded in death by his father, Kermit L. Mullins in 1992; and his sister, Nancy (Mullins) Chertok in 1987, who was formerly of Kingsport.

Tim is survived by his mother, Geraldine (Jeri) Copeland Mullins of Kingsport; and his brother-in-law, Mike Chertok of Bakersville, Calif.

Calling hours will be from 12 noon to 2 p.m. today at the East Lawn Funeral Home and anytime at the home of his mother.

Services will follow visitation in the funeral home chapel with the Reverend Aaron Rayburn and Mike Morgan officiating. A eulogy will be given by Dave Mullins, Athletic Director of ETSU.

Music will be under the direction of Tom and Sandy Allen and Steve Byrd of the Indian Springs Baptist Church.

Graveside services and burial will follow in the East Lawn Memorial Park.

Pallbearers will be Roger Duckworth, Tim Smith, Larry Woods, Robert (Bob) Jessee, Brian Nixon, Kevin Brooks, Michael Nance and Eddie Stanley.

Honorary pallbearers will be Mike Jones, Dave Cofer, Dave Mullins and Staff of ETSU.

In lieu of flowers contributions may be made to the East Tennessee State University Athletic Department P.O. Box 70707 Johnson City, Tenn. 37614 or the Indian Springs Baptist Church Building Fund, 325 Hill Road, Kingsport, Tenn. 37664

Please visit us online at http://www.mem.com to place a tribute to the Mullins family.

East Lawn Funeral Home is serving the Mullins family.



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Posted: 2004-03-12 23:15

Do I get blamed with the guy's death now?

I mean, I've been blamed for everything else with no cause.

Did I kill this guy?

Just curious what the board take would be.



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Posted: 2004-03-12 23:35

Show some class, Pitt.

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Posted: 2004-03-12 23:45

Pitt, this is no time to joke around. You really are a low class guy.

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Posted: 2004-03-13 00:41

Marky...quit being a prick. As far as I'm concerned it's your fault that we lost to Wake Forest last year.

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Posted: 2004-03-13 10:34

I'm not being a prick. I'm showing how absurd the board is by shooting the messenger.

I expect that out of some human cartoon character like Supe. The others I don't.

Then my logic is backed up with LP's comment.

Personally, I think I did send Mullins to the grave. My column did it.

So there you go. I am God- able to determine life and death.



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Posted: 2004-03-13 11:50

You are a prick and an incredibly small one at that to think that you get to give yourself a by-line on this one...




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Posted: 2004-03-13 15:10

And they say women don't care about size . . . .



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Posted: 2004-03-13 23:12

Grow up Pitt. Show some respect.

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Posted: 2004-03-13 23:56

Shut up PittsburghBitch.

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Posted: 2004-03-14 12:17

But are you going to give me credit for the kill?

I mean, I get wrongfully blamed for everything else here.

So I'm just curious- am I a murderer.

Quit dodging the question and answer it!

The point here isn't that a man is dead- the point is that we have to look at ourselves because certainly I would be blamed for his death with my column.

But I'm just cutting that arguement off at the pass.

Am I being disrespectful? No, because I would like to just let this news item pass.

But unfortunately because of the way some jagovs on here think- I have to head their accusations off at the pass.



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Posted: 2004-03-15 01:25

PITT, JUST WHEN I THINK YOU CANNOT STOOP ANY LOWER, YOU MIRACULOUSLY FIND A WAY!!!! TIM DIED OF A HEART ATTACK, DO YOU KNOW WHAT A HEART IS? APPARENTLY NOT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A HEART, YOU STILL HAVE TO BE THE FIRST CLASS B1TCH OF THE BOARD!!!!!!

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Posted: 2004-03-15 02:27

Pitt, you are perhaps the most insensitive and poorest excuse for a human being on the face of this planet. It's a damn shame that we, as decent humans, have to share the same oxygen with you.
You know- after reading that post- I can only come to one conclusion.

You're dumb Rod. I mean you really don't know what I'm all about and you just simply don't get it.

Read that post again. Did I say I was glad he was dead? No.

All I did was say "Are you knuckleheads going to wrongly blame me for his death now?"

And evidently, you did.

So who's the sleaze now?

Furthermore, your dates are dubious.

And lastly, if White is telling people what you say, then he is two faced.

Let's face facts. There's nothing wrong with calling a lady up- one I've never spoken to- and leaving a message saying that you found her attractive and would be honored if she called you back.

No hubba hubba. No harrassment. A simple- "Hey, I know this is crazy but my name is so and so and I noticed you at the ball game and was hoping you'd call me back."

What's wrong with that?
What you did do Pitt was keep pushing it. to the point where you actually did start claiming "credit" for killing him all in all a very sick thing. I never blamed you for his death I thought you were an incrediblely insenstive jerk to use a man's death in a message board debate. Still do, to me that make you a whole lot less then sleaze.


As for my dates being being Dubious.

Dave Mullins was named AD in Arpil of 2003.

Here is brief bit of that article.

Quote:Story published: 04-15-2003 ? Print Story ? E-mail Story to a Friend
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Mullins gladly sheds interim AD label

By Kelly Hodge
Press Managing Sports Editor

East Tennessee State has looked far and wide over the last decade for stability at the head of its athletic department.
Turns out the university needed to look no further than its own tennis program.

Longtime tennis coach Dave Mullins was named director of intercollegiate athletics on a permanent basis Monday by ETSU president Dr. Paul Stanton. Mullins, 56, had been the interim AD for the last four months

Tim Mullins died on March 11. 2004. See the newspaper article in the thread I posted so there are 2 of the dates set in stone, nothing dubious at all.

The 3rd, when you lost your press credentials. You yourself said in this thread you lost them when Dave Mullins took over as AD, which was either April 2003 when he got the job permently or 4 months earlier when he was named intern AD. either way almost a full year before Tim Mullins died. Can't have it both ways Pitt, nice try though. spinning it to look like they were related and figuring it happened so long ago nobody would notice the huge time difference between the 2 events. Also here is a post from Nov 3. 2003 where you state you had lost you press credentials. I said I remember you complaining about it in Oct of 2003. Nailed it pretty well so I just confirmed all 3 of my so called dubious dates. So what else you wanna try to do and spin this Pitt?

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What they have is too much power. They actually knew I was the only one who would really criticize them, so they took away my media credentials.

Using, incidentily, our conversation about women's soccer as the reason. Yes, I said women's soccer was a trash sport and I don't like it. I don't. I'm putting off writing two articles on women's soccer for the PG now.



Supe, you know that I don't give a damn about women's soccer, but I wasn't saying how I'd like to shag the team. I know enough never to do something like that.

But even if I had, SO EFFIN WHAT? This is a message board. It's an open exchange of ideas. And I don't cover the Bucs for the message board, I cover them for Sports Talk.

Incidentily, for someone like me to gather such strong responces on local athletics and for the local radio stations to ignore me as a sports talk host speaks very little about radio programming in the Tri-Cities.
Rod, all you're doing is playing into the hands of those who killed football.

What's your point? That David Mullins would never take credentials away from someone who disagreed with him?

Please.

Clearly I'm on your side, but you're just too stupid to know it. Just like you're too bigoted to appriciate Ed DeChellis.

Now then, Sherlock, lets's just look at your timeline.

What, pray tell, am I going to apply to be credentialed to cover at ETSU in April of 2003?

I didn't apply for any credentials until the last football season.

Actually, the truth was I asked to see if I could get a credential for the last football game and was told by Mike White not to bother- essentially because I was critical of him.

"Well, we know what you write on that board."

So what? What happened to freedom of speech? If I have to write idiot crap like Greg Randolph did about David Mullins' enthusiasm and look like a complete goober in doing so- well- in the words of Vic Ferrari- "You can just keep your trophy!"

The only time I had any problem getting them is when Mullins was in charge and after I wrote columns critical of the decision to drop football.

That's a fact. It also occurred BEFORE the Tim Mullins thing (which clearly is a non-incident, as the above thread clearly indicates) and many, many months after the other incident you mentioned.

Finally, on the Tim Mullins thing, I am responding to the idiots (like you) who said that was a factor.

However, if it makes you feel any better-


I will openly root for your death and a trip to eternal damnation if it makes you feel any better. ;-)
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You have to get through the fact you don't like me because I'm from the north (but hell, you'll root for the Steelers!) or have called you an idiot or now, where I am showing your investigative skills are actually pretty bad and I can only assume that's why you're not playing Jim Rockford for a living anymore.

You don't, and you keep up this line of posting, you'll only play into the hands of those who killed ETSU sports.
Pitt,

You post stuff trying to spin something one way. I post the actual facts and you twist in a different direction and try and blame me.

In your first post You are the one who brought up Tim Mullins death as a possible factor in you losing your press pass.

Quote:They quit credentialling me when Mullins took over because he knew how critical I was of dropping football.

I basically was never told why they did this to me- but there were two main items of speculation.

One- A post I made on a board about Tim Mullins.

I showed how that was total BS so you do a 180 and posted this
Quote:The only time I had any problem getting them is when Mullins was in charge and after I wrote columns critical of the decision to drop football.

That's a fact. It also occurred BEFORE the Tim Mullins thing (which clearly is a non-incident, as the above thread clearly indicates) and many, many months after the other incident you mentioned.

I know it was a non factor. I was the one who posted the "above thread"

then you said
Quote:Finally, on the Tim Mullins thing, I am responding to the idiots (like you) who said that was a factor.

I never said it was a factor you are the one who raised that question.

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Posted: 2004-03-12 23:15

Do I get blamed with the guy's death now?

I mean, I've been blamed for everything else with no cause.

Did I kill this guy?

Just curious what the board take would be
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Then you post this defense

Quote:What, pray tell, am I going to apply to be credentialed to cover at ETSU in April of 2003?

I didn't apply for any credentials until the last football season

I never said you were denied credentials in April of 2003, you are the one who implied it in your first post.

Quote:They quit credentialling me when Mullins took over because he knew how critical I was of dropping football

Mullins become AD in April 2003 so the implication is there.
I said I remembered you started complianing about it around Oct 2003 and propuced a post from you in early Nov of 2003 saying you had been denied. Oct-Nov.. hmm football season. Yep I had covered that

You keep harping on my time line and it being dubious trying to say I had it all wrong

Quote:Furthermore, your dates are dubious

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Quote:Now then, Sherlock, lets's just look at your timeline.

Well I mentioned 3 dates. When Dave Mullins became AD. when you were denied your press creds and when Tim Mullins died. I backed up everyone of the dates I posted.

As for you being blamed for Tim Mullins death. You were the first person to bring it up in the original thread. posted above and no one who responded to you claimed that, they just called you various names being such an insenstive jerk. You are the one who kept bring it up in that thread to the point you actually started claiming credit for it. You took something pretty damn stupid to start with and pushed even farther.

So this thread you try and deflect things with

Quote:Read that post again. Did I say I was glad he was dead? No
I never accused you in either thread of saying you were glad he was dead.


As for my

Quote:where I am showing your investigative skills are actually pretty bad and I can only assume that's why you're not playing Jim Rockford for a living anymore

They are working very well as I have proven several times. However you ability to spin really sucks. Making 180 turnarounds in the same thread really makes it hard for anyone to believe anything you post.

This has nothing to with playing into those who killed ETSU football this me exposing your lies and half truths again.

RZ
Trying to have it both way again Pitt, almost missed it.

You say that you weren't denied credentials until several months after your phone call to the volleyball player. Pointing out that couldn't have been a factor since it happened several months before. Well you made that call in Jan of 2003 ( I can post the thread if you like) Around same time Dave took over as interm. But as you point out below you didn't bother asking for press credentials between April 2003 when Mullins took over until football season. Did you apply in Feb or March I bet you didn't? See you don't really know when or why you got blacklisted only when you found out by being denied.



Quote:What, pray tell, am I going to apply to be credentialed to cover at ETSU in April of 2003?

I didn't apply for any credentials until the last football season.

Actually, the truth was I asked to see if I could get a credential for the last football game and was told by Mike White not to bother- essentially because I was critical of him.

"Well, we know what you write on that board."

So what? What happened to freedom of speech? If I have to write idiot crap like Greg Randolph did about David Mullins' enthusiasm and look like a complete goober in doing so- well- in the words of Vic Ferrari- "You can just keep your trophy!"

The only time I had any problem getting them is when Mullins was in charge and after I wrote columns critical of the decision to drop football.

That's a fact. It also occurred BEFORE the Tim Mullins thing (which clearly is a non-incident, as the above thread clearly indicates) and many, many months after the other incident you mentioned.


Good job Pitt trying to spin it so that a future event (Tim's death) was a factor in you being blacklisted but a past event (the call) couldn't have been a factor because it happened several months before. But by your own statement you don't know when it happened only when you found out.

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pitt is a stalker. pitt is a stalker. pitt is a stalker. pitt is a stalker. i heard the volleyball chick went into hiding. pitt=stalker.
Actually, nothing has been proven here except that Shaw shills for the ETSU athletic dept.

If you wish to believe I was an insensitive jerk because of the above thread, I can't help you. Clearly the posters there overreacted.

So you tell me. Supposedly Mullins death wasn't a factor- I am only stating what I've heard- just like you.

Since you're the only one on here who actually believes your tripe, tell me-

WHY AFTER SEVEN YEARS WAS I SUDDENLY DENIED?

And why in the world would you think, since I'm the only one in the media who would take ETSU to task (and you see what happens to you when you do- you have to put up with morons like Shaw), that is a good thing?

Can you imagine if I was still doing columns criticizing those guys? You'd have so much support to bring back football it would be incredible.

Instead, we have the JC Press writing editorials preaching skeptism and the rest of the media ignoring the effort or theorizing the team should be D-II.

You're saying Mullins hiring was not a factor. I'm telling you it was the only one- and you damn well know it.
It is stuff like this that made SoConHoops a worthless board. Please stop this. You guys are both on the same side of the important issues, so stop this pissing contest.
RockyTop- I agree with you wholeheartedly.

So quit posting crap trying to damage my character Rod. It isn't becoming of you.

I'm the only friend the guys wanting to save football have. DOn't you see that?
PittsburghBucs Wrote:Since you're the only one on here who actually believes your tripe, tell me-

WHY AFTER SEVEN YEARS WAS I SUDDENLY DENIED?


You're saying Mullins hiring was not a factor. I'm telling you it was the only one- and you damn well know it.

I am not posting anything but posts by YOU Pitt so if it is tripe that that doesn't speak well of you. I never said the Mullins hiring wasn't a factor. Go back and carefully read what I wrote. Probably was a factor but you certainly didn't help your case any making posts about female atheletes on the SoCon board. For whatever ever reason you got banned you gave them a great excuse to ban you. As someone who is a writer you should be more careful what you put you name to no matter if it is a newspaper article or a message on this forum. You gave them the ammo in your arrogance and they shot you down.

Rod
Shaw, you have a great ability to change the subject of direct questions.

So here's one I don't want you to dodge.

What did I say about female athletes?

Uh, nothing.

Simply put, Mullins did this to save his own @ss and he had NO cause to do so.
Lets see it mostly comes down to posts about 1 player. You take all of those posts that made reference to her add in all you posts where you talk about liking porn so much. Toss in the fact you actually called said player and for whatever reason she felt the need to report it to one of her advisors and you have an easy recipe for finding grounds to revoke your press privileges. All the negative posts and articles abouts Mullins and the school were just icing on the cake. Pitt right or wrong when you called Katie without going thru the SID that alone was grounds to revoke if they wanted to push it and in your case they did. Like I said in your arrogance you made it easy for them.


The first post that started it all but not the last.


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First of all, words hurt.

Second of all, I'd like Big Guy and the rest of the scubs to look at Tiras Wade here and tell me he's not that far from having Bernard Jackson's hair-do, which was, unquestionably, the coolest haircut I have seen on the basketball court in quite some time.

So, despite the team's appriciation of the crowd, which they do, this was not a good taunt.

THAT SAID- I must ask the Scubs or whoever a question here.

Chick sitting with you in the Eddie George jersey. Long brunette hair. George jersey was TIGHT. Kind of tall.
WHO IS THIS CHICK? I was going to say hi to her but never got the chance. The C of C color guy held me up asking me about a column I wrote in Sports Talk and I couldn't break free unless I made a serious social gaffe (which now I wish I had).

At this point, I don't care about ethics in journalism or how this looks or whatever.

I just want to know if the Scubs can tell me WHO THIS CHICK IS!!!!


You want me down at another game? Heck, I'll cover sheet shooting if you can produce this woman in the audience!!!!
This is funny stuff. As an independent 3rd party, one who has never engaged in "conversation" with either of you, I would say that if this stuff is true, PITT is a truly sick individual. Taking credit for someone's death AND stalking a volleyball player...wow! Nicely done! :dirtyvegas:
Well, that's just it- I didn't do either one of these things.

Just how does one stalk someone from 400 miles away?

Furthermore, where are the criminal documents?

COME ON ROD! SHOW US YOUR PI SKILLS! WE KNOW YOU WERE THE BEST!

Go to the courthouse and produce the document.

Either that, or lose ALL credibilty for believing an urban legend that has absolutely no truth.

You know- it's one thing to be turned down for a date. It's another to be subjected to this.

Then again, I'm sure it's better than how Rod does with the ladies.
Take this to the smack board please. It's gotten quite irritating to read on here from BOTH OF YOU. If need be we can take you to LittleBucs and let you play in the sandbox with the other children.
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