CSNbbs

Let's pretend for a moment. The Democrats have just lost control of both the House and the Senate. There are half a dozen posts every day ripping the Republican controlled branches of government.

What would the Republican posters say?

Quit your whining? The people have spoken? Get over it? Better luck next time?

The right refers to any kind of moderate or progressive thought as whinning. It is the same no matter what offices they hold or who is in the majority where. Just alot of bluster and hypocracy.

Is there a point in there somewhere or are you going to keep tap-dancing?

If you're asking me, it was my passive-aggressive attempt to say, the right should quit their f'ing whining. The majority of people don't like Bush, don't think the NeoCons are trustworthy, think there should be a timetable to the war (although I don't), etc. etc.

Although many said it wouldn't happen, the Dem's control the House and Senate, Jenny whipped up on Dick, and that's the way it's going to be until the next election cycle. Suck it up and deal with it.

While I would agree that people should not be whining IMO it is foolishness to point the finger on only one side of the aisle. Both sides have plenty of bad apples, both sides are doing there fair share of whining, and if the tables were turned the amount of whining wouldn't be any less.

I'm not whining, I hate Dip cause he's mean, I hate him I hate him I hate him!!

DesertBronco Wrote:I'm not whining, I hate Dip cause he's mean, I hate him I hate him I hate him!!

Quit kissing up lmfao

Quote:The majority of people don't like Bush

Oh I think most of us like bush.................now on to politics.

I love how those on the left tell those on the right that Bush his universally hated. Polls in the NY times, the Washington Post, Moveon.org. and other "reliable sources" lmfao tells us so.

If Bush is/was so hated why was he elected twice, and two of the "finest minds" in America couldnt win?

The rating on Fox news are higher than it's left wing competitors combined. Yet if you listen to those on the left "ALL OF AMERICA THINKS LIKE YOU."

If all of America is in your corner then I'm color blind

51% - 49% 2004
28%-72% 2007

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18505030/site/newsweek/

Paint that any color you want. Alot of people who voted for him twice want their money back, and those that didn't vote for him haven't exactly been won over. As far as the county by county map I believe that we can all agree that cornfields aren't american citizens and don't vote so that Kansas, Nebraska and Oklahoma red stain is not very impressive.

It really does not matter if anyone "likes" Bush. Our affection for someone, or something may have little to do with them being a good leader or somthing being good at all.

Moerover, much of America likes porn, crappy sitcomes, and bad food. So simply liking someone, or something, is a pretty low standard.

and 75% of us think that statistics are made up on the spot.....

So sorry to say citizens don't like W. I meant they don't approve of the job he's doing.

I'm sure he's a nice guy, I mean, he's totally religious and everything....

^ lmfao

Quote:I'm sure he's a nice guy, I mean, he's totally religious and everything....

DB I've heard you say this three times. I guess I'm missing the inside joke that you and GR seem privy to.

Bush admits to being a born again Christian, and said he turned to God after his bout with alcoholism. He admits to praying about many of his decisions, and is seen regularly in church. I'm missing the hypocracy that you seem to be implying.

Now if you want hypocracy. Hillary Clinton campaigns regularly in black churches, where her dialect seems to suddenly sound like a baptist preacher in the pulpit. Read a blog a while back where a reporter called every church within 40 miles of Westchester County where Bill/Hill live asking if either were members or if they'd seen either in their church. No on all accounts.

Now before you go saying, "see Dip you always manage to bring the Clintons into the conversation." Well DB, they just seem like the teflon candidates. Nothing sticks to them. Bill gets his dingy sucked by a fat intern and it's personal business, has no effect on the office of the president. Bush misses church one week and he's a hyprocrite. GW is done, he's a lame duck, why worry about him, he cant be reelected. I dont get the lefts fixation with a president not running for office. Hillary is your next president. How bout a little equal opportunity critique.

Who knows if Bush is genuinely a religious person? All we can do is judge the man by his actions and words. He responded to a question about US deaths and casualties in Iraq by saying "I stick by my decisions on Iraq. I don't lose any sleep over it."

Any President who puts US troops in harms way and doesn't lose sleep about their deaths that resulted from his decisions is either unbelievably shallow and lacking in empathy, or just plain stupid. Take your pick.

Quote:All we can do is judge the man by his actions and words.

I've seen on more than one occasion Bush weeping while holding a parent of a dead soldier. I've heard him say on many occasions that every person who holds this office is pained by the casualties of war.

When he says he sticks with his decision on Iraq I'm sure he means his decision to take down Saddam, and set up a democracy in Iraq. I highly doubt he's saying, I stick with my decision to send 3000 soldiers to their death.

If and when this country is involved in another world war, where casualties come in the hundreds of thousands, I wonder if the American people will have the resolve to fight. The two Gulf wars have conditioned us to believe that casualties should be virtually non-existant.

All I know is:

1. Iraq posed no danger to this country. Almost all the intelligence services, except those controlled by the Neocons, stated at the time there was no evidence of WMD in Iraq.

2. Iraq didn't attack America or American interests abroad.

3. Iraq tried repeatedly to avoid conflict by aggreeing open-endedly to allow onsite inspections of all it's facilities by UN inspectors. That didn't satisfy the Bushites, they wanted to kick ass.

4. No WMD or the facilities for producing them have ever been found.

5. George Tenet admitted in his book there was no evidence of any relationship between Al Quaida and Saddam Hussein and that there never had been. In fact, Hussein hated them and fought them.

6. 3600 Americans have lost their lives to date in Iraq. Many more thousands wounded.

7. Bush has never admitted his decision to allow invasion of Iraq was a horrible blunder based on bad advice (or outright lies). Indeed, he has dug his heels in knowing that his historical legacy will be determined by the outcome of events in Iraq. Casualties continue to mount daily, as does the cost of the war.

Chipdip1 Wrote:

Quote:The majority of people don't like Bush

Oh I think most of us like bush.................now on to politics.

I love how those on the left tell those on the right that Bush his universally hated. Polls in the NY times, the Washington Post, Moveon.org. and other "reliable sources" lmfao tells us so.

If Bush is/was so hated why was he elected twice, and two of the "finest minds" in America couldnt win?

The rating on Fox news are higher than it's left wing competitors combined. Yet if you listen to those on the left "ALL OF AMERICA THINKS LIKE YOU."

If all of America is in your corner then I'm color blind

Now what is the population of those red counties compared to those blue?

How Benzie counties will it take to equal Wayne County?
I will give you a hint. It is between 111 and 113.
Or how about 295 Luce counties to equal just one Wayne county.

These are rural Michigan counties. Compare them to a rural counties in Wyoming , New Mexico or any other western state and they would appear to be densely populated.

Dip, you are not comparing apples and oranges, you are comparing apples and grains of sand.

In retrospect, going into Iraq was most likely a mistake. To this point, removing Saddam is about the only good thing that has come out of it.

I fear this: If we were to leave today, a civil war will ensue and the victors will reap the spoils, ie. some form of dictatorship. If we stay 2 more years, a civil war will ensue and the victors will reap the spoils, ie. some form of dictatorship. If we stay 10 years, a civil war will ensue and the victors will reap the spoils, ie. some form of dictatorship.

I guess, IMO, it won't matter how long we stay or how many lives we lose, there is too much hatred and religious dogma for the various groups to be able to work with each other enough to have a democracy.

Right now, our presence is only keeping the lid on a boiling pot. As soon as we leave - the pot boils over. If this is true, we should begin leaving soon. I'm sure others don't believe as I do (obviously the Administration doesn't) - only time will tell.