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...as soon as the GMAC Bowl is over - a solid source stated to me today

Vandelay Wrote:...as soon as the GMAC Bowl is over - a solid source stated to me today

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe he wasn't hired for another job several weeks ago.

I posted a thread a month or two ago asking Bobcat fans if they were worried Solich would ever leave. To my amazement, they seemed confident he would stay.

I thought maybe they knew something I didn't know, but apparently not.

This would be a GREAT hire for Minnesota.

i disagree that it would be a great hire for Minnesota. Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life left in coaching. not everyone is Joe Paterno and can coach into his 80s. if minnesota were to steal Frank away from us, which they are not going to do, they would be looking for another coach in a few years after Frank realizes he doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore.

no i think minnesota would be better off looking at Larry Coker or someone like that who has more of a coaching life than Frank. they need to leave Frank alone; he's perfectly happy at OU. he's not going anywhere.

Is that after an Ohio win? Atleast Solich didn't jump ship before the bowl game. Reguardless of how the coaching moves play out, Frank Solich has been great for Ohio and He put Ohio football on the map with an East Division title and Bowl game.

Winning % at Ohio last 100 years
1. Peden 122-46-11 .712
2. Finsterwald 13-10-1 .562
McFarland 13-10-1 .562
4. Banks 22-17-2 .561
5. Solich 13-11-0 .542
6. Hess 107-92-4 .537
7. Widdoes 42-36-5 .536
8. Grobe 33-33-1 .500

The job has been open less than a week. You try to praise the guy for everything. A program like Minnesota isn't looking for a guy to be there 20 years. They want a quick fix. They want a well-known guy who can build off of Mason did but also didn't do and keep interest now that they will finally get new facilities.

Bobcats schedule in 2007
D-AA team
Wyoming
@Lafayette
@Va Tech
Kent State
Temple
Miami
@BGSU
@Akron
@Buffalo
@TBA
TBA

Next year could have six home games for Ohio. The potential to return to a bowl is decent.

bobcat_backer Wrote:i disagree that it would be a great hire for Minnesota. Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life left in coaching. not everyone is Joe Paterno and can coach into his 80s. if minnesota were to steal Frank away from us, which they are not going to do, they would be looking for another coach in a few years after Frank realizes he doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore.

no i think minnesota would be better off looking at Larry Coker or someone like that who has more of a coaching life than Frank. they need to leave Frank alone; he's perfectly happy at OU. he's not going anywhere.

See this is generally the type of response I saw the first time we brought this up. I'm really surprised.

No, Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life, but so what? They'll be looking to get 3-5 good years out him, he'll open up their new stadium and ride off into the sunset.

Doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore? Are you crazy? Why would you say that??

Frank may be happy at OU, but he certainly would go somewhere if it was the right situation. I think Minnesota would be just that.

MN would be a move up, but look at the situation you are moving into:

1) Football is at best #2 in overall popularity in MN. The best HS athletes in that state are playing Ice Hockey. MN has struggled to put a competitive hoops program together much less football. Mason did a heck of a job this year keeping that state's top football talent instate, he also did well in Illinois, MI & OH. With a changeover, almost certainly part of this class will be lost and hopefully to NIU!

2) For at least the next 2 years they will still be playing in an offcampus,domed piece of garbage stadium, where they are the #3 tennant.

3) MN has 7 months of winter.

4) Mason wasn't a good gameday coach but the man brought that program to 7 bowls in 10 years. In the previous 10 years, that program went to 0 bowls.
Yet their AD fired Mason one year into a 4 year contract, their administration is now on the hook for $4.5M. A less than ideal situation to walk into. Not sure how much they are going to be able to pay Solich when they owe Mason $4.5M.

It would suck to see the HC's of both MAC division winners leave after just 2 and 3 years respectively.

niubrad00 Wrote:

bobcat_backer Wrote:i disagree that it would be a great hire for Minnesota. Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life left in coaching. not everyone is Joe Paterno and can coach into his 80s. if minnesota were to steal Frank away from us, which they are not going to do, they would be looking for another coach in a few years after Frank realizes he doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore.

no i think minnesota would be better off looking at Larry Coker or someone like that who has more of a coaching life than Frank. they need to leave Frank alone; he's perfectly happy at OU. he's not going anywhere.

See this is generally the type of response I saw the first time we brought this up. I'm really surprised.

No, Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life, but so what? They'll be looking to get 3-5 good years out him, he'll open up their new stadium and ride off into the sunset.

Doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore? Are you crazy? Why would you say that??

Frank may be happy at OU, but he certainly would go somewhere if it was the right situation. I think Minnesota would be just that.

i saw that because he's done it already and he was stung big-time by the zealots at Nebraska. why would he want to put himself into that mess again? he's content to be at a great university with an up and coming football program that he can take nearly 100% credit for building up. i think that's more of a reward for him at this point in his life than coaching at another BCS school, especially a BCS school (Minnesota) that has no shot of ever winning a conference title or even going to a BCS bowl.

no, he's staying at Ohio.

IMO, Solich has zero chance of the Minnesota job. He might of had a slight chance, but that DUI last year is a killer, an automatic DQ.

HuskiesRule73 Wrote:IMO, Solich has zero chance of the Minnesota job. He might of had a slight chance, but that DUI last year is a killer, an automatic DQ.

agreed!

onlinepole Wrote:MN would be a move up, but look at the situation you are moving into:

1) Football is at best #2 in overall popularity in MN. The best HS athletes in that state are playing Ice Hockey. MN has struggled to put a competitive hoops program together much less football. Mason did a heck of a job this year keeping that state's top football talent instate, he also did well in Illinois, MI & OH. With a changeover, almost certainly part of this class will be lost and hopefully to NIU!

Check a map and see how close MN is to NE...and ergo Solich's old recruiting area.

And you either exaggerate or are fooling only yourself by saying that fball isn't as popular in MN as hockey. Hockey is more popular there than anywhere else in the US, but they are pretty big fball fans.

Quote:2) For at least the next 2 years they will still be playing in an offcampus,domed piece of garbage stadium, where they are the #3 tennant.

Garbage stadium? There are better, there are worse.

Quote:3) MN has 7 months of winter.

And Minneapolis has civilization.
BTW, did you check that map on NE and MN? How much winter do you think they get in NE?

Quote:4) Mason wasn't a good gameday coach but the man brought that program to 7 bowls in 10 years. In the previous 10 years, that program went to 0 bowls.
Yet their AD fired Mason one year into a 4 year contract, their administration is now on the hook for $4.5M. A less than ideal situation to walk into. Not sure how much they are going to be able to pay Solich when they owe Mason $4.5M.

They are a Big 10 school with plenty of money. Besides, reason says that if they were concerned about money, they never would have fired Mason just to go bargain hunting. They also have plenty of talent from Mason's recruiting. A few wins by Solich, and they go to a big time bowl, and potentially win.

The perfect springboard for their "long term" hire.

Quote:It would suck to see the HC's of both MAC division winners leave after just 2 and 3 years respectively.

Yes, but that's emotion talking. Reason says that MN is a very good fit for Solich...better than ISU, UNC or UCG.

If Frank can get this job at sounds like a good deal....

-A new on-campus football stadium with beautiful amenities to open in 2009.

-The only Division 1 school in the entire state

-Working and living in a major city like Minneapolis vs. college town Athens

-Only a 7 hour drive from Lincoln, NE so Solich will be much closer to his friends back in Nebraska

-He has staff from North Dakota State and U.Minnesota would be a good upward career move for them

-At 62, Frank still has 10 years of coaching ahead of him....after that time he can turn his job over to someone from a strong coaching pipeline

-A chance to put the DUI he had in Athens behind him. Solich is on probation for the remainder of his contract, shaky terms to play under.

-Minnesota is not a high pressure job. Glenn Mason lasted 10 seasons @ Minnesota with a record bearly over .500. Solich will at least get a shot for 5 years, and if he is showing any signs of life easily 8 or 10.

-He can make enough money in 5 years at Minnesota to retire if it doesn't work out.

DrTorch Wrote:

Quote:It would suck to see the HC's of both MAC division winners leave after just 2 and 3 years respectively.

Yes, but that's emotion talking. Reason says that MN is a very good fit for Solich...better than ISU, UNC or UCG.

Frank was a finalist for the Minnestoa job back in the early 90's but lost out on it at that time. That goes to show you Frank is interested in the job.

What is next after Got Frank!.........Coker the new drug?

onlinepole Wrote:MN would be a move up, but look at the situation you are moving into:

1) Football is at best #2 in overall popularity in MN. The best HS athletes in that state are playing Ice Hockey. MN has struggled to put a competitive hoops program together much less football. Mason did a heck of a job this year keeping that state's top football talent instate, he also did well in Illinois, MI & OH. With a changeover, almost certainly part of this class will be lost and hopefully to NIU!

2) For at least the next 2 years they will still be playing in an offcampus,domed piece of garbage stadium, where they are the #3 tennant.

3) MN has 7 months of winter.

4) Mason wasn't a good gameday coach but the man brought that program to 7 bowls in 10 years. In the previous 10 years, that program went to 0 bowls.
Yet their AD fired Mason one year into a 4 year contract, their administration is now on the hook for $4.5M. A less than ideal situation to walk into. Not sure how much they are going to be able to pay Solich when they owe Mason $4.5M.

It would suck to see the HC's of both MAC division winners leave after just 2 and 3 years respectively.

You're crazy. Listen, I'm a MAC fan and alumnus, but there is no contest. He'd rather coach Big Ten football than MAC football. He'd also be able to quadruple is salary.

bobcat_backer Wrote:

niubrad00 Wrote:

bobcat_backer Wrote:i disagree that it would be a great hire for Minnesota. Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life left in coaching. not everyone is Joe Paterno and can coach into his 80s. if minnesota were to steal Frank away from us, which they are not going to do, they would be looking for another coach in a few years after Frank realizes he doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore.

no i think minnesota would be better off looking at Larry Coker or someone like that who has more of a coaching life than Frank. they need to leave Frank alone; he's perfectly happy at OU. he's not going anywhere.

See this is generally the type of response I saw the first time we brought this up. I'm really surprised.

No, Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life, but so what? They'll be looking to get 3-5 good years out him, he'll open up their new stadium and ride off into the sunset.

Doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore? Are you crazy? Why would you say that??

Frank may be happy at OU, but he certainly would go somewhere if it was the right situation. I think Minnesota would be just that.

i saw that because he's done it already and he was stung big-time by the zealots at Nebraska. why would he want to put himself into that mess again? he's content to be at a great university with an up and coming football program that he can take nearly 100% credit for building up. i think that's more of a reward for him at this point in his life than coaching at another BCS school, especially a BCS school (Minnesota) that has no shot of ever winning a conference title or even going to a BCS bowl.

no, he's staying at Ohio.

Coaches go back all the time to big programs after being fired. He KNOWS he would be treated well in Minnesota. Expectations are high, but not unrealistic. He would NOT be fired there.

How do you figure Minnesota has no chance of winning the Big Ten or going to a BCS bowl?? That's foolish. They've been close before, they could compete.

If Northwestern can do it, ANY Big Ten team can do it.

Now is a good time to go into the Big Ten with most of the conference being down except for OSU-Mich-Wisc.

niubrad00 Wrote:

bobcat_backer Wrote:

niubrad00 Wrote:

bobcat_backer Wrote:i disagree that it would be a great hire for Minnesota. Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life left in coaching. not everyone is Joe Paterno and can coach into his 80s. if minnesota were to steal Frank away from us, which they are not going to do, they would be looking for another coach in a few years after Frank realizes he doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore.

no i think minnesota would be better off looking at Larry Coker or someone like that who has more of a coaching life than Frank. they need to leave Frank alone; he's perfectly happy at OU. he's not going anywhere.

See this is generally the type of response I saw the first time we brought this up. I'm really surprised.

No, Frank doesn't have that long of a shelf life, but so what? They'll be looking to get 3-5 good years out him, he'll open up their new stadium and ride off into the sunset.

Doesn't want to coach in "big time" college football anymore? Are you crazy? Why would you say that??

Frank may be happy at OU, but he certainly would go somewhere if it was the right situation. I think Minnesota would be just that.

i saw that because he's done it already and he was stung big-time by the zealots at Nebraska. why would he want to put himself into that mess again? he's content to be at a great university with an up and coming football program that he can take nearly 100% credit for building up. i think that's more of a reward for him at this point in his life than coaching at another BCS school, especially a BCS school (Minnesota) that has no shot of ever winning a conference title or even going to a BCS bowl.

no, he's staying at Ohio.

Coaches go back all the time to big programs after being fired. He KNOWS he would be treated well in Minnesota. Expectations are high, but not unrealistic. He would NOT be fired there.

How do you figure Minnesota has no chance of winning the Big Ten or going to a BCS bowl?? That's foolish. They've been close before, they could compete.
If Northwestern can do it, ANY Big Ten team can do it.

i know that the same way you know what's in Frank's head (him wanting a bigger salary). not everyone in this world is in it for the money. i think it's obvious we should just agree to disagree on this one. nothing you or anyone can say will convince me he would or is leaving Ohio, just like nothing i say is going to convince you that you're wrong. time will tell which one of us is right.