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If the Buckeyes lose,Boise State will be the only unbeaten.Will the Boise State Broncos deserve the #1 ranking.?
Win or Lose, Boise St should hang a Nat'l Champs banner.
Boca Rocket Wrote:If the Buckeyes lose,Boise State will be the only unbeaten.Will the Boise State Broncos deserve the #1 ranking.?
at least#3 or 4...fla. osu. sc..boise...
I have been a supporter of BSU in the NC game all along. When the debate for the no. 2 team started only considering Mich, Fla, USC, etc, I was livid. BSU was the only other undefeated team team around. I will contend that until a team loses, that team may be unbeatable. There are certain competitors that will not accept a loss, even if the talent seems uneven. Certain competitors seem to beat everyone by one point, no matter what the competition. My Bible taught me that even little boy David can slay a giant if he has a slingshot or a hook and ladder play.

This question is why I am AGAINST a playoff in football. The biased powers to be are so jaded that they can not see that a 12-0 team is still unbeaten. If the playoff is limited to 8 or 12 teams, more than one team gets screwed. The debate is better than a flawed system. Ban the BCS and go back to the old bowl system because hypocrisy will be the order of the day.
Boise State went undefeated and beat Oklahoma. Outside of a run in the 4th Qtr, BSU dominated Oklahoma.

At the least Boise State deserves to be #1 in the AP Poll, which is not part of the BCS. Shake things up a little and show that YES, there needs to be a playoff to have a true champion.

OSU is better than Oklahoma, but who is to say that Boise State couldn't beat OSU, Florida, Michigan, USC, etc?
The game ended late but from the comments made by sports pundits today BSU just executed to perfection. They have done a great service to all nonBCS programs. 2nd great bowl win by a nonBCS team in a BCS bowl, Utah and Boise St; a MAC team should be next, which would be great.
AS much as I would love to see BSU get the #1 spot if osu loses, it'll never happen. AS much as BSU deserves it, or atleast the shot at it, it's always the same story. The voters will talk it up but when it comes time to put up or shut up they always vote with the crowd.
Here's how I see it poaying out. BSU will end up #4, as harsh as this is, it's probably going to happen. USC ends up #2, because of the percpetion that michigan is that good and they took them to the shed. the loser of florida osu is #3, and the winner will be of course #1. There is no way the voters will go against the bcs that much to not give tyhe winner of that game the championship.

If this isn't the biggest example of why a playoff is needed they'll never see it. As non-bcs schools we need to build on this and keep beating bcs schools until a non-bcs school that deserves and invite doesn't get one. It also has to be so blatently obvious.

It's obviously a huge step in the right direction but I don't expect them to give up the biased crap so easily.
Boise State has no chance to be voted #1. i truly admired what they did on the field last night, but already words like "trickery" and "trick plays" are seeping into the media's vocabulary about last night's performance. this, to me, is the media's way of "excusing" or "glossing over" what BSU accomplished. they are tarnishing their effort so the media has a "legitimate" excuse not to vote for them at #1.

fair or not, that's life in "major" college football.
I don't understand the label "trickery" or "trick plays" used in this context. Those two plays being discussed the most are simply well-executed plays with, in the case of the 2pt. conversion, a GREAT ball fake included. Ball fakes happen on every play in football. Just because the defense doesn't expect it or can't stop it because it's rare doesn't make it a "trick". Last night they were calling it a Statue Of Liberty play. That's been around a long time...a lot longer than me, and my kids tell me I'm old. The hook and ladder is so common in late-game comeback attempts that EVERY defense should be prepared for it.

Hats off to Boise State for a great game and greater final drive.

No way they get the #1 spot in AP, but they should AT LEAST get #3. Yes, USC's destruction of UM was decisive, but let's face it. UM played last night's game like it's played almost ALL of their games this year. They're good, but they're not as good as we saw against OSU.
Karl,

I think it's just the "so called expert's" way of saving face when they all said that BSU would be blown out. now that we've seen BSU not only could compete with Oklahoma but BEAT them legitimately, they have to come up with ways of rationalizing it in their small, narrow minds. 01-wingedeagle it's sort of that back-handed compliment thing.

the truth is what you said...they weren't trick plays at all; they just caught Oklahoma napping at the worst possible time.
Abso-freaking-lutely. There's no point to anything if a single undefeated team is not the national champs.
If winning with those "trick" plays is so easy, why can't everyone do it?
Roberto Gato Wrote:If winning with those "trick" plays is so easy, why can't everyone do it?

Yep, every team has them, but it's the execution.
BSu won't be #1, but it'll be real interesting to see how far the pollsters push them up....maybe as high as #3 or #4? As was stated before, BSU has done a "whale of good" for the rest of us non-BCS'ers. Too bad Miami and Big Ben couldn't have played in a 5th BCS bowl back in 2003.
A nonBCS team had a chance at an undefeated season and beat a BCS team in a bowl. They won the national championship. It wasn't 2006 BSU or 2004 Utah but 1984 BYU. They followed that up with a Heisman winner 6 years later.
A nonBCS team had a chance at an undefeated season and beat a BCS team in a bowl. They won the national championship. It wasn't 2006 BSU or 2004 Utah but 1984 BYU. They followed that up with a Heisman winner 6 years later.
Technically, there was no BCS back then, but your point is valid. BYU broke the ice.
Karl Wrote:Technically, there was no BCS back then, but your point is valid. BYU broke the ice.

....and the BEST part? They did it against Michigan in the bowl game!!!
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