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Akron and Toledo are both in the running for 3 star (27th ranked running back in the country) recruit Morgan Williams. He is a 2-time Associated Press Division 1 Player of the Year in the state of Ohio and rushed for 2,447 yards and 34 touchdowns this year. He is from Canton McKinley, a football powerhouse, and he is considering Akron, Toledo, Florida State, Wisconsin, Louisville, and Indiana. Right now has offers from Akron and Indiana, but is expected to get an offer from Toledo very soon and Florida State has now started to recruit him and is expected to offer him. Expected to make all five official visits in January before making a decision.


Just another example of MAC recruiting picking up big-time this year.

RB Morgan Williams (6-0, 190, 4.5)
Canton, OH - McKinley HS
The Downside of Waiting

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=352&p=2&c=598341

Quote:Another school that Anderson hopes he's able to attract is Northern Illinois. "I just sent them some film and we'll see if they offer," Anderson said. "They have a good program and play DI football."

Missouri RB William Anderson had offers from Nebraska, Missouri and Illinois pulled and now his only scholarship is from DIAA Northern Iowa. He's now trying to get NIU to give him a scholie.

He's a 3-star Fullback ranked 9th in the country at his position on both Scouts and Rivals. Also ranked as the 17th best player in the Missouri top 30.

St. Louis (MO) Hazelwood East

Ht: 6-foot-0
Wt: 220 lbs
Forty: 4.6 secs

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2431188
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect..._key=49553
epasnoopy Wrote:The Downside of Waiting

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=352&p=2&c=598341

Quote:Another school that Anderson hopes he's able to attract is Northern Illinois. "I just sent them some film and we'll see if they offer," Anderson said. "They have a good program and play DI football."

Missouri RB William Anderson had offers from Nebraska, Missouri and Illinois pulled and now his only scholarship is from DIAA Northern Iowa. He's now trying to get NIU to give him a scholie.

He's a 3-star Fullback ranked 9th in the country at his position on both Scouts and Rivals. Also ranked as the 17th best player in the Missouri top 30.

St. Louis (MO) Hazelwood East

Ht: 6-foot-0
Wt: 220 lbs
Forty: 4.6 secs

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2431188
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect..._key=49553

Does he have the grades ? Because when D1's start pulling offers like that it seems like there may be eligibility problems.
rocketfootball Wrote:Just another example of MAC recruiting picking up big-time this year.

I'm not sure that a guy whose only offers are Akron and Indiana is a sign of "big-time" recruiting...
connerito Wrote:Does he have the grades ? Because when D1's start pulling offers like that it seems like there may be eligibility problems.

Says he has a 2.8 GPA. I would assume a 2.8 would make him academically eligible, that's about a C+. But he is retaking the ACT.
BobcatFan Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:Just another example of MAC recruiting picking up big-time this year.

I'm not sure that a guy whose only offers are Akron and Indiana is a sign of "big-time" recruiting...

Maybe you should pay a little more attention. He is planning an official visit to Wisconsin in January so they must be close to offering. He started getting recruited by Florida State recently and he believes he will get offered by them. He should be getting an offer from UT soon. He is rated 3 stars and the 27th ranked running back in the country by Rivals.com. He was the Offensive Player of the Year in Division I in the state of Ohio for both 2005 and 2006. He rushed for about 2,500 yards and 34 touchdowns. Just because he doesn't have a lot of offers right now doesn't mean he is not a big-time recruit. He's rated a 5.7 so he is on the higher side of 3 stars by Rivals.

At 6-0 and 190 pounds some bigger schools actually think he is a bit too small. Hard to believe because there are some much smaller guys playing at BCS schools, but many bigger schools want a guy that is 6-0 or 6-1 and about 225 pounds, not 190 pounds.

Scout.com by the way has him rated 3 stars and the 54th best running back prospect in the country. They show him with zero offers, but say has has received interest from Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, and Wisconsin. If he hasn't committed by early to mid January, expect more BCS schools to start offering him as they lose out on 4 and 5 star recruits they were going after. This kid is that good, believe me!
epasnoopy Wrote:
connerito Wrote:Does he have the grades ? Because when D1's start pulling offers like that it seems like there may be eligibility problems.

Says he has a 2.8 GPA. I would assume a 2.8 would make him academically eligible, that's about a C+. But he is retaking the ACT.

The article said that he had the offers pulled after those schools filled their fullback needs by gaining commits from other kids. That kind of thing happens a lot for kids that wait too long. On the flip side, he may receive some new offers in January as other schools lose out on their primary targets too.
BobcatFan Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:Just another example of MAC recruiting picking up big-time this year.

I'm not sure that a guy whose only offers are Akron and Indiana is a sign of "big-time" recruiting...

I should have probably added in the other reply to this that anytime a kid is rated 3 stars (in this case high end of 3 stars) by both Rivals and Scout, then he is a big-time recruit for the MAC.
rocketfootball Wrote:
epasnoopy Wrote:
connerito Wrote:Does he have the grades ? Because when D1's start pulling offers like that it seems like there may be eligibility problems.

Says he has a 2.8 GPA. I would assume a 2.8 would make him academically eligible, that's about a C+. But he is retaking the ACT.

The article said that he had the offers pulled after those schools filled their fullback needs by gaining commits from other kids. That kind of thing happens a lot for kids that wait too long. On the flip side, he may receive some new offers in January as other schools lose out on their primary targets too.
If that is correct it shows the stupidity of some kids waiting to see what happens w/out realizing coaches have to fill commitments. You see it all the time when recruits bigtime coaches only to come crawling back to the coaches they bigtimed after getting dropped by the bigtime schools. This appears to somewhat opposite though.
rocketfootball Wrote:
BobcatFan Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:Just another example of MAC recruiting picking up big-time this year.

I'm not sure that a guy whose only offers are Akron and Indiana is a sign of "big-time" recruiting...

Maybe you should pay a little more attention. He is planning an official visit to Wisconsin in January so they must be close to offering. He started getting recruited by Florida State recently and he believes he will get offered by them. He should be getting an offer from UT soon. He is rated 3 stars and the 27th ranked running back in the country by Rivals.com. He was the Offensive Player of the Year in Division I in the state of Ohio for both 2005 and 2006. He rushed for about 2,500 yards and 34 touchdowns. Just because he doesn't have a lot of offers right now doesn't mean he is not a big-time recruit. He's rated a 5.7 so he is on the higher side of 3 stars by Rivals.

At 6-0 and 190 pounds some bigger schools actually think he is a bit too small. Hard to believe because there are some much smaller guys playing at BCS schools, but many bigger schools want a guy that is 6-0 or 6-1 and about 225 pounds, not 190 pounds.

Scout.com by the way has him rated 3 stars and the 54th best running back prospect in the country. They show him with zero offers, but say has has received interest from Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, and Wisconsin. If he hasn't committed by early to mid January, expect more BCS schools to start offering him as they lose out on 4 and 5 star recruits they were going after. This kid is that good, believe me!

Guys like this are being recruited by the MAC all the time. Players can list any schools they want on their interest list, that doesn't mean they are going to get offers.

Talk to me when the MAC is consistently outrecruiting BCS schools for its choice of players, let alone the premier programs (Michigan, tOAMU, U$C, etc.). Until then, we're an after thought league.
I think Morgan Williams doesn't have other offers b/c he doesn't have the grades. I think his ACT is not high enough.

And I think you are a big time recruit when you are the 2 time offensive player of the year in D1.
BobcatFan Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:
BobcatFan Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:Just another example of MAC recruiting picking up big-time this year.

I'm not sure that a guy whose only offers are Akron and Indiana is a sign of "big-time" recruiting...

Maybe you should pay a little more attention. He is planning an official visit to Wisconsin in January so they must be close to offering. He started getting recruited by Florida State recently and he believes he will get offered by them. He should be getting an offer from UT soon. He is rated 3 stars and the 27th ranked running back in the country by Rivals.com. He was the Offensive Player of the Year in Division I in the state of Ohio for both 2005 and 2006. He rushed for about 2,500 yards and 34 touchdowns. Just because he doesn't have a lot of offers right now doesn't mean he is not a big-time recruit. He's rated a 5.7 so he is on the higher side of 3 stars by Rivals.

At 6-0 and 190 pounds some bigger schools actually think he is a bit too small. Hard to believe because there are some much smaller guys playing at BCS schools, but many bigger schools want a guy that is 6-0 or 6-1 and about 225 pounds, not 190 pounds.

Scout.com by the way has him rated 3 stars and the 54th best running back prospect in the country. They show him with zero offers, but say has has received interest from Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, and Wisconsin. If he hasn't committed by early to mid January, expect more BCS schools to start offering him as they lose out on 4 and 5 star recruits they were going after. This kid is that good, believe me!

Guys like this are being recruited by the MAC all the time. Players can list any schools they want on their interest list, that doesn't mean they are going to get offers.

Talk to me when the MAC is consistently outrecruiting BCS schools for its choice of players, let alone the premier programs (Michigan, tOAMU, U$C, etc.). Until then, we're an after thought league.
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Its good to be in the game w/the LEGIT BigDogs, though


Wiggins to visit WMU today
Tuesday, December 12, 2006
By Graham Couch
gcouch@kalamazoogazette.com 388-7773
Offensive coordinator George McDonald told Doug Wiggins the Broncos would use him similar to Greg Jennings and that was more than enough to make Wiggins want to see Western Michigan University's football program for himself.

Wiggins, a heralded four-star recruit from North Miami Beach High School, is scheduled to be in Kalamazoo beginning today for an official visit.

``(McDonald and I) had a long talk and he sold me on coming in and being a big part of what they're trying to do right now, and that's win games and get to a bigger bowl game,'' Wiggins said Monday.


Wiggins, who played at the same high school as current Broncos Louis Delmas, E.J. Biggers and Andy Dorcely, and is the cousin of Biggers, also has visited or intends to visit Michigan, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia.

Western Michigan and North Carolina are the only two of those programs that are recruiting Wiggins (5-foot-10, 185 pounds) to play receiver. The others see him as a defensive back.

``He told me that's the quickest way for me to get on the field,'' Wiggins said of McDonald, who visited him last week and whom he called ``one of the best recruiters.''

Wiggins to visit WMU today

``He said I could be an impact player in their system. We sat down and he showed me some things they did with Greg Jennings (now with the Green Bay Packers) and told me they want to use me just like him.''

Wiggins intends to announce his decision at his high school team's banquet on Dec. 22. He said he'll graduate this month and will enroll at the college of his choice in January, making him available for spring practice.

As for WMU's odds, ``I would say they have a one-in-five chance just like the others,'' said Jeff Bertani, Wiggins' high school coach, who previously said Wiggins would make an immediate impact.

Two of Wiggins' North Miami Beach teammates, offensive lineman Anthony Parker and defensive tackle Kevin Cyrille, have already committed to WMU.

The Broncos' coaching staff can't comment on recruits, per NCAA rules, until they sign in February or enroll.

DEFENSIVE END COMMITS TO BRONCOS: Andy Wersel, a 6-foot, 229-pound defensive end from Cincinnati Moeller High School, has verbally committed to play at WMU.

``I just loved the coaches and the players were really cool,'' Wersel told Rivals.com, which lists him as a two-star recruit.

Wersel is the sixth confirmed verbal commitment to WMU's 2007 class.

The Broncos intend to sign between 17-19 players in February.
BobcatFan Wrote:Guys like this are being recruited by the MAC all the time. Players can list any schools they want on their interest list, that doesn't mean they are going to get offers.

Talk to me when the MAC is consistently outrecruiting BCS schools for its choice of players, let alone the premier programs (Michigan, tOAMU, U$C, etc.). Until then, we're an after thought league.

I think you are not understanding the whole point here. He already said that he plans to visit Akron, and most likely will visit Toledo when he has a written offer. Giving an official visit to a MAC school is much different than being recruited by a MAC school. More and more in the last couple of years MAC schools have been catching this kind of interest from 3 star recruits, and in WMU's instance even a 4 star recruit. This is great for the MAC.

I wasn't talking to you directly, so even if the MAC ever does consistently outrecruit BCS schools for its choice of players (which wasn't the point anyone) don't expect me to "talk to you" then either. You can consider us an after thought and go to the Ohio Bobcats football games with your OSU gear on if you want. But don't put us down for liking the fact that we have a shot at a 3 star recruit. Ball State received a verbal from a 3 star running back named Frank Edmonds the other day. He is the 11th rated all-purpose back in the country. Akron has commits from a couple of 3 star recruits. UT has a commit from a 3 star LB. Other MAC schools have commits from 3 star players too. They may not make us as talented as Ohio State, but these are the caliber of recruits that the MAC was not getting 6 or 7 years ago. And it's great to see the MAC getting some of these kids. You want to be negative about it, fine. But you will have to expect me to respond back every time you put the MAC down like that.
You said MAC recruiting is picking up big-time THIS YEAR. I said that the example offered, Williams, is nothing special because the MAC has consistently been recruiting guys with competing offers from the likes of Indiana (although they may dream of better offers) lately.

Thus, Williams is in no way an example of MAC recruiting picking up "big-time" THIS YEAR. The WMU recruit, if signed, would be. The example that started this thread was not. Me thinks you're the one missing the point now...
Watch out! MH might kidnap the kid and force him to sign with Temple. ;-)
BobcatFan Wrote:You said MAC recruiting is picking up big-time THIS YEAR. I said that the example offered, Williams, is nothing special because the MAC has consistently been recruiting guys with competing offers from the likes of Indiana (although they may dream of better offers) lately.

Thus, Williams is in no way an example of MAC recruiting picking up "big-time" THIS YEAR. The WMU recruit, if signed, would be. The example that started this thread was not. Me thinks you're the one missing the point now...

You are using one method to determine the guy is not a big-time recruit. You are not taking into consideration that he is rated a high 3 star recruit by both Rivals and Scout. You are not taking into consideration that he won the Offensive Player of the Year award for Division I in the state of Ohio for each of the last two seasons. That is no small feat. You are just going by current offers according to the recruiting services that have talked to him. Those offers could change and they may not even be that accurate if he has been offered by other schools he isn't interested in and didn't mention them. You also don't know if there is a certain reason that he hasn't got the offers from some of the bigger schools, like maybe because they are waiting for his ACT scores to be higher.

I'm sorry, but a 2-time Division I Offensive Player of the Year in the state of Ohio who rushed for 2,500 yards and 34 touchdowns and is rated a high 3 star recruit by both Rivals and Scout IS a big-time recruit.
The better MAC classes have consistently featured several 3 star (with an occasional 4 star) recruits over the last few years. That's nothing new.

Basically, your post comes down to the fact that a two time offensive player of the year is considering the MAC. Great. The fact that he doesn't have any big-time offers speaks volumes about just how good a recruit he actually is. And if one of those big-time offers come, we'll see if the MAC still lands him.

The WMU recruit is the real story, not the kid you are hyping. Get over yourself. lmfao
BobcatFan Wrote:The better MAC classes have consistently featured several 3 star (with an occasional 4 star) recruits over the last few years. That's nothing new.

Basically, your post comes down to the fact that a two time offensive player of the year is considering the MAC. Great. The fact that he doesn't have any big-time offers speaks volumes about just how good a recruit he actually is. And if one of those big-time offers come, we'll see if the MAC still lands him.

The WMU recruit is the real story, not the kid you are hyping. Get over yourself. lmfao

Whatever. Show me all of these 3 star recruits. The best recruiting classes in the MAC have had some 3 star recruits in them the last few years and I did say that this is part of what has been happening the last few years for MAC schools which is great. But they aren't getting several 3 star recruits. Show me several, or what you mean by several. 2-3, maybe 4 is not several when you normally sign around 25 kids.

The WMU recruit is a 4 star, not a 5 star like somebody said. He is a great story, but so is this. And I will continue to say that if he signs with Akron and not Toledo. Frank Edmonds verbally to Ball State is big too. The fact that more than just the couple of top recruiting classes in the MAC are getting 3 star verbals this year helps to further my point that it is stepping up more and more as well. Don't know that you can say that Ball State or Toledo will have top recruiting classes this year, but we both have verbals from some good 3 star recruits.
BobcatFan Wrote:The WMU recruit is the real story, not the kid you are hyping. Get over yourself. lmfao

By the way, I'm not all over myself and I am not necessarily hyping just this guy. I am talking about how the MAC as a whole is doing a great job of stepping up their recruiting, and for some reason you are slamming me for it. Is that crazy or what???
We received a vebal from a top QB in Ohio, Zach Collaras (from Steubenville). He was the MVP of a team that won an Ohio State championship and went 54-2 in his career. His coach called him "the most exciting player to ever play at his high school."

Ohio Varisty has been hinting this to us for some time, but this kid is so well regarded, we though someone else would steal him. Well, he announced last night that he's coming to Kent. Two of his team mates are going to Toledo.

Have no idea how many stars he has, but damn glad he's gonna be a Flash.

http://hsconnect.com/sports/articles.asp?articleID=8990
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