I'm still having trouble figuring this one out... :shhh:
Shame is that the MCB is having so much trouble getting an at-large team whenever the Big Ten gets 2 BCS bids and only 7 bowl elig. This was supposed to be a year with a 12 game schedule that they had an extra 6 - 6 team for MCB. Not so.
GMAC, International and Poinsetta seem to be tough matchups.
Quote:any guess who CMU will face in the MCB?
As long as it's not us, I don't care... ;-)
if the niu item is true and we do go to san diego
then...
cmu WILL go to MCB
Ohio WILL go to either the GMAC (likely) or toronto
and
WMU WILL HAVE TO go to one that Ohio does not
leaving
the MCB only able to fill CMU's opponent with an at large 7-5 team ,,,that would be either Middle Tenn State (likely) or Louisiana-Lafayette (unlikely)
there really is very little other possibility unless Troy loses next week sending MTS to new orleans and L-L does not get to 7 wins by losing to Louisiana Monroe. in that case "i think" the MCB might be allowed to chose an at large 6-6 team
houstonhuskie Wrote:there really is very little other possibility unless Troy loses next week sending MTS to Shreveport and L-L does not get to 7 wins by losing to Louisiana Monroe. in that case "i think" the MCB might be allowed to chose an at large 6-6 team
Actually, if Troy loses we'd go to New Orleans. Seriously though. No one in Blue Raider Nation is holding their breath for a bowl bid. We know that our season is done. Troy will not lose to FIU.
Semper Wrote:houstonhuskie Wrote:there really is very little other possibility unless Troy loses next week sending MTS to Shreveport and L-L does not get to 7 wins by losing to Louisiana Monroe. in that case "i think" the MCB might be allowed to chose an at large 6-6 team
Actually, if Troy loses we'd go to New Orleans. Seriously though. No one in Blue Raider Nation is holding their breath for a bowl bid. We know that our season is done. Troy will not lose to FIU.
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I'd guess that if Troy goes to N.O. that MTSU has a shot at MCB.
Who else could go to MCB with a 7 - 5 MTSU out there????
the only one might be a 7-5 Louisiana Lafayette if they win next week
or
if they lose and MTSU turns it down (unlikely) then that leaves the spot wide open for a 6-6 at large....the pool is wide open then
The MCB lingers amongst the top non-BCS Bowl in attendance. They can easily afford to increase their payout to 1 mil. and thus insure themselves top billing (or 1st at large choice) in the future.
westernwilly Wrote:The MCB lingers amongst the top non-BCS Bowl in attendance. They can easily afford to increase their payout to 1 mil. and thus insure themselves top billing (or 1st at large choice) in the future.
The problem this year, as in the past, is the lack of good at-large 7 - 5 teams.
There are few open slots but they have commitments of sorts (e.g., the bowl in N.C. has a deal with Navy. Another bowl with Army, if eligible).
I'd like to see a complete list of 7-5 bowl eligibles who went to a bowl other then their conference's contractual bowl obligations.
emu steve Wrote:I'd like to see a complete list of 7-5 bowl eligibles who went to a bowl other then their conference's contractual bowl obligations.
For this year, the list is rather short: NIU and one Sun Belt team (TBD).
huskie88 Wrote:emu steve Wrote:I'd like to see a complete list of 7-5 bowl eligibles who went to a bowl other then their conference's contractual bowl obligations.
For this year, the list is rather short: NIU and one Sun Belt team (TBD).
I guess that means that Middle TN St. U will be CMU's opponent.
Is there any other choice????
emu steve Wrote:huskie88 Wrote:emu steve Wrote:I'd like to see a complete list of 7-5 bowl eligibles who went to a bowl other then their conference's contractual bowl obligations.
For this year, the list is rather short: NIU and one Sun Belt team (TBD).
I guess that means that Middle TN St. U will be CMU's opponent.
Is there any other choice????
I think there could still be a 3rd 7 win Sun Belt team. Maybe not though, did that possibility close yesterday??
Other than that, if for some reason San Diego does take MTSU, then we'd have the Incest Bowl back.
I think those are the only possibilities.
I'm not sure how this will all pan out. I guess we'll know within the next couple days.
But I'd be stunned if the Poinsettia Bowl picked MTSU over NIU/Wolfe. It's not like they'd gain on geography or attendance by picking MTSU.
Motown Bronco Wrote:I'm not sure how this will all pan out. I guess we'll know within the next couple days.
But I'd be stunned if the Poinsettia Bowl picked MTSU over NIU/Wolfe. It's not like they'd gain on geography or attendance by picking MTSU.
And they can't legitimately make that pick until next sunday. Troy still has to play and if they lose MTSU goes to New Orleans and if L-Laf loses there is NO other sun belt team to be chosen as an at large. I don't see San Diego waitng that long unless they have been told that all four MAC schools are tied up which means the insest bowl is back on.
I do not understand the disdain that many MAC fans are showing for Middle Tennessee. Many people have posted that they wanted Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee to join the MAC. How can they be good enough to join but not good enough to face in a bowl?
One thing most people do not realize is that Middle Tennessee was screwed out of the New Orleans Bowl in 2001. They and North Texas both finished 5-1 in the Sun Belt. Middle Tennessee was 8-3 while North Texas was 5-6. Their head to head trumped common sense.
The Sun Belt seemed to regret that decision, after the fact, without actually admitting it since that would create even more bad publicity for them. Anyway it would seem that Middle Tennessee fans ought to feel that they deserve a bowl after that and would make the trip.
Even if I did want WKU in the MAC (never wanted MTSU), they are not even IA yet, so why would I want a MAC team to face them in a bowl? So good enough to join does not mean good enough to face in a bowl. Ideally, the MCB would be a game featuring a more historically recognized squad. Just more to gain and less to lose in this scenario. Plus generates more interest from the casual fans out there. Nothing against the Blue Raiders.
Question: If Troy loses AND ULL loses, putting MTSU in the New Orleans, what are the MCB's options at that point?
interestingly, that is the BEST scenario for CMU. IF all the 7 win at large teams are in a bowl, the remaining bowl/s can then choose from bowl elligible schools (6-6) from any conference. That would open up Kansas, Oklahoma State and others
wont happen....Troy will not lose
MacLord Wrote:Even if I did want WKU in the MAC (never wanted MTSU), they are not even IA yet, so why would I want a MAC team to face them in a bowl? So good enough to join does not mean good enough to face in a bowl. Ideally, the MCB would be a game featuring a more historically recognized squad. Just more to gain and less to lose in this scenario. Plus generates more interest from the casual fans out there. Nothing against the Blue Raiders.
Question: If Troy loses AND ULL loses, putting MTSU in the New Orleans, what are the MCB's options at that point?
In that event, they will be able to court an at large 6-6 BCS squad such as Kansas. I guess the MCB will have to wait until next Sunday to see what happens with Troy and UL-Lafayette.
MacLord Wrote:Even if I did want WKU in the MAC (never wanted MTSU), they are not even IA yet, so why would I want a MAC team to face them in a bowl? So good enough to join does not mean good enough to face in a bowl. Ideally, the MCB would be a game featuring a more historically recognized squad. Just more to gain and less to lose in this scenario. Plus generates more interest from the casual fans out there. Nothing against the Blue Raiders.
Question: If Troy loses AND ULL loses, putting MTSU in the New Orleans, what are the MCB's options at that point?
IF that happens and there are NO 7 win teams left, then all the 6 win teams that don't already have bids come back into play. There are quite a few!
niubrad00 Wrote:MacLord Wrote:Even if I did want WKU in the MAC (never wanted MTSU), they are not even IA yet, so why would I want a MAC team to face them in a bowl? So good enough to join does not mean good enough to face in a bowl. Ideally, the MCB would be a game featuring a more historically recognized squad. Just more to gain and less to lose in this scenario. Plus generates more interest from the casual fans out there. Nothing against the Blue Raiders.
Question: If Troy loses AND ULL loses, putting MTSU in the New Orleans, what are the MCB's options at that point?
IF that happens and there are NO 7 win teams left, then all the 6 win teams that don't already have bids come back into play. There are quite a few!
Not necessarily. The conference with the tie-in becomes a factor again and the bowl would have to take a 6-win team of it's choice from the Big 10. If there are none, then all other 6-win teams are fair game.
Semper Wrote:niubrad00 Wrote:MacLord Wrote:Even if I did want WKU in the MAC (never wanted MTSU), they are not even IA yet, so why would I want a MAC team to face them in a bowl? So good enough to join does not mean good enough to face in a bowl. Ideally, the MCB would be a game featuring a more historically recognized squad. Just more to gain and less to lose in this scenario. Plus generates more interest from the casual fans out there. Nothing against the Blue Raiders.
Question: If Troy loses AND ULL loses, putting MTSU in the New Orleans, what are the MCB's options at that point?
IF that happens and there are NO 7 win teams left, then all the 6 win teams that don't already have bids come back into play. There are quite a few!
Not necessarily. The conference with the tie-in becomes a factor again and the bowl would have to take a 6-win team of it's choice from the Big 10. If there are none, then all other 6-win teams are fair game.
There are no available Big 10 teams with 6 or more wins. Otherwise the need for the MCB to find an at-large team would be moot.