I saw today's Washington Post and he was NOT listed among the top candidates.
How can that be?
There is no Reggie Bush or Vince Young so he should be a favorite based what he did yesterday vs. OSU.
Because we're 0-1 and have no shot at a national championship.
It's not who is the best player, it's who is the best player on the best team.
However, if he has 1,000 yards rushing by the end of September, people will take notice.
niubrad00 Wrote:However, if he has 1,000 yards rushing by the end of September, people will take notice.
Now if G. Wolfe gets 1,000 rushing (and 1K receiving) on NATIONAL TV
maybe he'll get the consideration he deserves.
Maybe playing OSU, Iowa, Miami, UT, etc. on national TV will server G. Wolfe well.
I think he has a shot based on this national exposure...
I would think they would be much more impressed by 170 yards against OSU than 1000 yards against MAC competition. Anyway, that's how they normally seem to look at it. If he isn't a top candidate now he'll never be. The Heisman is pretty much of a joke anyway. They only look at the best teams and see which players on those teams put up the biggest numbers. They don't have to be the best, they just have to have the best numbers. Nobody else has a shot.
Now if Wolfe could have played defense too and covered Ginn.....
As any UT fan would say, this guy is good!!!
(ala Henry Winkler in 'The Waterboy'-)
"I hate him, I hate him, I hate him"
I'd vote for him.
The guy had almost 300 all purpose yards vs the #1 team in the nation.
Well done
Quote:I'd vote for him.
The guy had almost 300 all purpose yards vs the #1 team in the nation.
I agree. If ANY other player, BCS or not, can put up those kind of numbers against Ohio State, then I might reconsider but I don't see it happening.
ESPN Hyped him this morning. Called him a one man show in a losing effort against #1 OSU, and hyped him as a Heisman hopeful.
NIU007 Wrote:I would think they would be much more impressed by 170 yards against OSU than 1000 yards against MAC competition. Anyway, that's how they normally seem to look at it. If he isn't a top candidate now he'll never be. The Heisman is pretty much of a joke anyway. They only look at the best teams and see which players on those teams put up the biggest numbers. They don't have to be the best, they just have to have the best numbers. Nobody else has a shot.
Now if Wolfe could have played defense too and covered Ginn.....
Well it certainly helps that Northern has promoted him-
it's not up to him or Novak IMO- It's up to the SID ( call it what you want- "Marketing" people) if they want to increase their revenue stream and visibility..
of course it IS
"NORTHERN ILLINOIS"
so I guess they have those two departments covered
LakelandRocket Wrote:ESPN Hyped him this morning. Called him a one man show in a losing effort against #1 OSU, and hyped him as a Heisman hopeful.
Saw Tressel's show for a minute this morning. He said "Number 1 for them had good balance" like he didn't know his name.
Nasty Wrote:NIU007 Wrote:I would think they would be much more impressed by 170 yards against OSU than 1000 yards against MAC competition. Anyway, that's how they normally seem to look at it. If he isn't a top candidate now he'll never be. The Heisman is pretty much of a joke anyway. They only look at the best teams and see which players on those teams put up the biggest numbers. They don't have to be the best, they just have to have the best numbers. Nobody else has a shot.
Now if Wolfe could have played defense too and covered Ginn.....
Well it certainly helps that Northern has promoted him-
it's not up to him or Novak IMO- It's up to the SID ( call it what you want- "Marketing" people) if they want to increase their revenue stream and visibility..
of course it IS
"NORTHERN ILLINOIS"
so I guess they have those two departments covered
bull****. If People watching college football this weekend didn't see his phenomenal play this weekend and the numbers he put up against the #1 team in the nation, then they've just proved that this award does not signify what it claims.
I know that promoting a player is important if you're not already a known quantity, but what part of 185 rushing yards per game against Big Ten competition the last two years don't people recognize? Seriously - I expect better from ESPN - they generally do at least mention the non-BCS kids that produce, especially if they do so against BCS competition - DeAngelo Williams was talked about constantly last year.
Unless Wolfe gets injured (heaven forbid), he looks destined to be on everyone's post-season All-American teams.
As for the Heisman, you can just about forget it. We all know the reasons. A phenomenal season, however, COULD get him into the Top 5 and invited to the ceremony. (Didn't that happen with Randy Moss? It should have happened to Big Ben.)
I makes me mad every time I hear someone talking about the Heisman and Wolffe isn't mentioned. In fact, I've only heard his name once as a "dark horse". I watched him play twice in person last season and I knew he'd light it up against OSU. Good for you, Garrett, make them all take notice and give you the respect you deserve.
Nasty Wrote:HuskieDan Wrote:Nasty Wrote:NIU007 Wrote:I would think they would be much more impressed by 170 yards against OSU than 1000 yards against MAC competition. Anyway, that's how they normally seem to look at it. If he isn't a top candidate now he'll never be. The Heisman is pretty much of a joke anyway. They only look at the best teams and see which players on those teams put up the biggest numbers. They don't have to be the best, they just have to have the best numbers. Nobody else has a shot.
Now if Wolfe could have played defense too and covered Ginn.....
Well it certainly helps that Northern has promoted him-
it's not up to him or Novak IMO- It's up to the SID ( call it what you want- "Marketing" people) if they want to increase their revenue stream and visibility..
of course it IS
"NORTHERN ILLINOIS"
so I guess they have those two departments covered
bull****. If People watching college football this weekend didn't see his phenomenal play this weekend and the numbers he put up against the #1 team in the nation, then they've just proved that this award does not signify what it claims.
I know that promoting a player is important if you're not already a known quantity, but what part of 185 rushing yards per game against Big Ten competition the last two years don't people recognize? Seriously - I expect better from ESPN - they generally do at least mention the non-BCS kids that produce, especially if they do so against BCS competition - DeAngelo Williams was talked about constantly last year.
I don't know Dan- what does it take it get a worthy guy to New York in December?? I say #1 Talent, #2 a winning big time program ( we do now official belong to that club albeit not BCS big ) and finnally a marketing machine- which you all in infinate wisdom have chosen to disregard. 
Don't get me wrong I completely see where your guys are comming from but -as I said it really should'nt be up to them. It all comes with a price (playing at that level) I guess if the pressure/ attention is too much a distraction to handle, well I guess thats another story.
The Heisman is, and has been, largely irrelevant to me. In addition, Garrett has stated his desire for the focus to remain on this team, though we certainly put him front and center in everything we do marketing and press wise. That said, if the national press is going to ignore his 185 yard rushing average against Big Ten competition the last two years, then they're just proving themselves to be ignorant and to have no credibility. Just helps me narrow it down.
HuskieDan Wrote:Nasty Wrote:HuskieDan Wrote:Nasty Wrote:NIU007 Wrote:I would think they would be much more impressed by 170 yards against OSU than 1000 yards against MAC competition. Anyway, that's how they normally seem to look at it. If he isn't a top candidate now he'll never be. The Heisman is pretty much of a joke anyway. They only look at the best teams and see which players on those teams put up the biggest numbers. They don't have to be the best, they just have to have the best numbers. Nobody else has a shot.
Now if Wolfe could have played defense too and covered Ginn.....
Well it certainly helps that Northern has promoted him-
it's not up to him or Novak IMO- It's up to the SID ( call it what you want- "Marketing" people) if they want to increase their revenue stream and visibility..
of course it IS
"NORTHERN ILLINOIS"
so I guess they have those two departments covered
bull****. If People watching college football this weekend didn't see his phenomenal play this weekend and the numbers he put up against the #1 team in the nation, then they've just proved that this award does not signify what it claims.
I know that promoting a player is important if you're not already a known quantity, but what part of 185 rushing yards per game against Big Ten competition the last two years don't people recognize? Seriously - I expect better from ESPN - they generally do at least mention the non-BCS kids that produce, especially if they do so against BCS competition - DeAngelo Williams was talked about constantly last year.
I don't know Dan- what does it take it get a worthy guy to New York in December?? I say #1 Talent, #2 a winning big time program ( we do now official belong to that club albeit not BCS big ) and finnally a marketing machine- which you all in infinate wisdom have chosen to disregard. Don't get me wrong I completely see where your guys are comming from but -as I said it really should'nt be up to them. It all comes with a price (playing at that level) I guess if the pressure/ attention is too much a distraction to handle, well I guess thats another story.
The Heisman is, and has been, largely irrelevant to me. In addition, Garrett has stated his desire for the focus to remain on this team, though we certainly put him front and center in everything we do marketing and press wise. That said, if the national press is going to ignore his 185 yard rushing average against Big Ten competition the last two years, then they're just proving themselves to be ignorant and to have no credibility. Just helps me narrow it down.
Geez Dude- stick your head a little further in the ground...Irrelevant? That's quite an opinion. Your obiviously not in the marketing field...I'm gonna take a wild guess and say your in the teaching profession
The national media has always ignored us WTF do you expect ? NIU's decision to not mount a Hiesman marketing campaign is as idiotic as the national media's lack of acknowledging such a great player in it's Hiesman hype.
Nasty Wrote:HuskieDan Wrote:Nasty Wrote:HuskieDan Wrote:Nasty Wrote:NIU007 Wrote:I would think they would be much more impressed by 170 yards against OSU than 1000 yards against MAC competition. Anyway, that's how they normally seem to look at it. If he isn't a top candidate now he'll never be. The Heisman is pretty much of a joke anyway. They only look at the best teams and see which players on those teams put up the biggest numbers. They don't have to be the best, they just have to have the best numbers. Nobody else has a shot.
Now if Wolfe could have played defense too and covered Ginn.....
Well it certainly helps that Northern has promoted him-
it's not up to him or Novak IMO- It's up to the SID ( call it what you want- "Marketing" people) if they want to increase their revenue stream and visibility..
of course it IS
"NORTHERN ILLINOIS"
so I guess they have those two departments covered
bull****. If People watching college football this weekend didn't see his phenomenal play this weekend and the numbers he put up against the #1 team in the nation, then they've just proved that this award does not signify what it claims.
I know that promoting a player is important if you're not already a known quantity, but what part of 185 rushing yards per game against Big Ten competition the last two years don't people recognize? Seriously - I expect better from ESPN - they generally do at least mention the non-BCS kids that produce, especially if they do so against BCS competition - DeAngelo Williams was talked about constantly last year.
I don't know Dan- what does it take it get a worthy guy to New York in December?? I say #1 Talent, #2 a winning big time program ( we do now official belong to that club albeit not BCS big ) and finnally a marketing machine- which you all in infinate wisdom have chosen to disregard. Don't get me wrong I completely see where your guys are comming from but -as I said it really should'nt be up to them. It all comes with a price (playing at that level) I guess if the pressure/ attention is too much a distraction to handle, well I guess thats another story.
The Heisman is, and has been, largely irrelevant to me. In addition, Garrett has stated his desire for the focus to remain on this team, though we certainly put him front and center in everything we do marketing and press wise. That said, if the national press is going to ignore his 185 yard rushing average against Big Ten competition the last two years, then they're just proving themselves to be ignorant and to have no credibility. Just helps me narrow it down.
Geez Dude- stick your head a little further in the ground...Irrelevant? That's quite an opinion. Your obiviously not in the marketing field...I'm gonna take a wild guess and say your in the teaching profession
The national media has always ignored us WTF do you expect ? NIU's decision to not mount a Hiesman marketing campaign is as idiotic as the national media's lack of acknowledging such a great player in it's Hiesman hype.
My guess is you will see NIU begin a Heisman campaign shortly....
They had a campaign for LeShon Johnson(finished 6th in voting) and Michael Turner.
HuskieDan Wrote:Nasty Wrote:HuskieDan Wrote:Nasty Wrote:NIU007 Wrote:I would think they would be much more impressed by 170 yards against OSU than 1000 yards against MAC competition. Anyway, that's how they normally seem to look at it. If he isn't a top candidate now he'll never be. The Heisman is pretty much of a joke anyway. They only look at the best teams and see which players on those teams put up the biggest numbers. They don't have to be the best, they just have to have the best numbers. Nobody else has a shot.
Now if Wolfe could have played defense too and covered Ginn.....
Well it certainly helps that Northern has promoted him-
it's not up to him or Novak IMO- It's up to the SID ( call it what you want- "Marketing" people) if they want to increase their revenue stream and visibility..
of course it IS
"NORTHERN ILLINOIS"
so I guess they have those two departments covered
bull****. If People watching college football this weekend didn't see his phenomenal play this weekend and the numbers he put up against the #1 team in the nation, then they've just proved that this award does not signify what it claims.
I know that promoting a player is important if you're not already a known quantity, but what part of 185 rushing yards per game against Big Ten competition the last two years don't people recognize? Seriously - I expect better from ESPN - they generally do at least mention the non-BCS kids that produce, especially if they do so against BCS competition - DeAngelo Williams was talked about constantly last year.
I don't know Dan- what does it take it get a worthy guy to New York in December?? I say #1 Talent, #2 a winning big time program ( we do now official belong to that club albeit not BCS big ) and finnally a marketing machine- which you all in infinate wisdom have chosen to disregard. Don't get me wrong I completely see where your guys are comming from but -as I said it really should'nt be up to them. It all comes with a price (playing at that level) I guess if the pressure/ attention is too much a distraction to handle, well I guess thats another story.
The Heisman is, and has been, largely irrelevant to me. In addition, Garrett has stated his desire for the focus to remain on this team, though we certainly put him front and center in everything we do marketing and press wise. That said, if the national press is going to ignore his 185 yard rushing average against Big Ten competition the last two years, then they're just proving themselves to be ignorant and to have no credibility. Just helps me narrow it down.
I agree. It says something about our little running back that he thinks the focus should remain on the team. If the goal is to win the MAC title, how does a Heisman campaign help? And he isn't going to win. That said, I always thought they might start a campaign after waiting to see what happens at OSU. Wolfe proved himself to be a top candidate on national TV against the #1 rated team. Now it's up to the media to show a little intelligence. I don't see how the fact that OSU won anyway can be relevant when you're trying to choose the best PLAYER. That's why the Heisman is a joke.
I'd say this in (hopefully) conclusion- I think it's incredibly awesome & telling of what type of guy Wolfe is for his stance regarding this issue. It should always be TEAM first, unfortunatley today's media driven world FLASH & Dash gets it instead of truth and SUBSTANCE. We'll see how it all plays out and let me just say I pray that guy stays healthy ( UL's Bush went down last night w/ a broken leg) and can continue to represent. If that occurs (regardless of NIU's AD's brain dead stance) GW will be in New York in December.
BTW I can't wait to see him week 5 & you as well Danny boy...we're gonna introduce you to a few weapons of our own ;-)
Also a side note - watching the OSU-NIU game-a pic of Nicolson came on screen and I about spit on the TV WTF is going on with the hair??? That is the funniest F-ING do I have seen in a long time lmfao
It would be way too late to start a Heisman campaign now.
You'd be a couple more weeks into the season by the time materials could be designed and produced and yet another week or two before they could be in the hands of voters and influential "personalities."
The school would also probably need to be positioned to uplink highlights of GW from every game to the national sports networks since no school in our conference has the luxury of having every game televised nationally or semi-nationally.
A modern Heisman campaign worth spending money on isn't something that can just be whipped up in short order. It must be a long and consistent push to keep an athlete in voter's minds. The PR is just one facet of it.
-Dan