Ray from hoopfactor.com brought this to my attention...it raises some questions I think as to whether Singletary will actually get to enroll at Kent:
Check out both stories, the first relating to another athlete from the same prep school who committed to South Carolina only to be told that his school/curriculum wasn't up to par and was denied admission:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/ba...index.html
And then this story gives more background on the NCAA's ongoing process of reviewing such schools:
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/5761290
The prep school Singletary attended as a senior is a joke. It should get far better academic standards or close. Either way, he attended another school for three years, the NCAA has cleared his school for next year, so your hope he won't make it may be deflated.
Flashes fans don't know officially whether Chris is coming or not. Unofficially, he'll remind us of a taller Antonio Gates. Good for us, bad for you. Hopefully, the fact that he was admitted to University of Missouri before Kent State will help. If not, we'll move on. Losing a player like Chris will hurt, but given the report we have that the highest rated recruit ever to the MAC (or, at least the 25 years I've been following it) stating we are first on his list will dry our tears. It would be very nice to have two Top 50 players in our backcourt, but one will do.
More important to us is Coach Opp's public report that everyone on last years' roster will return. After our APR fiasco, this is great news. It also quells the outrage we'd run someone off for Singletary.
Besides, this is our down year. Why all the concern about us? We just hope seven guys want to suit up. All of you should be focused on the Akron Zips, because we know the pre season favorite always wins in the MAC.
FlashFan Wrote:The prep school Singletary attended as a senior is a joke. It should get far better academic standards or close. Either way, he attended another school for three years, the NCAA has cleared his school for next year, so your hope he won't make it may be deflated.
Flashes fans don't know officially whether Chris is coming or not. Unofficially, he'll remind us of a taller Antonio Gates. Good for us, bad for you. Hopefully, the fact that he was admitted to University of Missouri before Kent State will help. If not, we'll move on. Losing a player like Chris will hurt, but given the report we have that the highest rated recruit ever to the MAC (or, at least the 25 years I've been following it) stating we are first on his list will dry our tears. It would be very nice to have two Top 50 players in our backcourt, but one will do.
More important to us is Coach Opp's public report that everyone on last years' roster will return. After our APR fiasco, this is great news. It also quells the outrage we'd run someone off for Singletary.
Besides, this is our down year. Why all the concern about us? We just hope seven guys want to suit up. All of you should be focused on the Akron Zips, because we know the pre season favorite always wins in the MAC.
I'm just passing on the info. I am not hoping one or the other whether Singletary plays. It's MAC related and it's newsworthy.
Quote:'m just passing on the info. I am not hoping one or the other whether Singletary plays. It's MAC related and it's newsworthy.
Sure. Maybe you could share that same level of inclusiveness as it relates to Gino Smith's situation.
FlashFan Wrote:Quote:'m just passing on the info. I am not hoping one or the other whether Singletary plays. It's MAC related and it's newsworthy.
Sure. Maybe you could share that same level of inclusiveness as it relates to Gino Smith's situation.
Relax. KSU is one of the top basketball programs in the MAC and this recruit's committment was highly touted...now there is some question. People are interested in this more so than what happens with a freshman swingman leaving a struggling program, which I did report at MRO. I know this is hard to believe but when I don my MRO cap, I leave all allegiances aside. If I wanted to make a big issue out of the Singletary thing I would have posted it at MRO, instead I posted here amongst our community.
There is still a lot more that hasn't been answered about Gino Smith's departure, but what I have been able to gather it was a decision more related to Smith's off-court issues but then again I am getting mixed signals. He is going to a JUCO in Texas and could be welcomed back? Yeah, right. But I have reported what the facts are so far and that is all I can do.
Please, do not read ulterior motives into everything. I have zero desire to see KSU or any school in the MAC fail. Frankly, I thought that you knew me better than that.
This is good news. A high major guard, Top 50 by two services, decommitted from a Big 12 program and is said to be coming to the MAC. After decommitting to Mizzou, he visited Alabama, Oklahoma and us. Frankly, the commitment has been "highly touted" by several national services, from ESPN to Scout, but I haven't seen MAC related media outside of the local Kent paper mention anything. So, yeah, I'm annoyed when the only mention by one of the few MAC focused writers is negative.
As my friend KStud has observed, instead of appreciating the good news, several others on this board have been focused on negative speculation. First, it was that we'd run off someone to take him. Now that one of our coaches assures us that no one is leaving, "news " moves to the poor quality of his prep school. IF Chris Singletary shows up, it's good news for the MAC. Leave it at that.
If there is an interest in going with speculation as news, maybe we can chew on the possibility of Jay Youngblood getting a legit shot at the NBA due to his performance in the summer games for the Mavs.
FlashFan Wrote:This is good news. A high major guard, Top 50 by two services, decommitted from a Big 12 program and is said to be coming to the MAC. After decommitting to Mizzou, he visited Alabama, Oklahoma and us. Frankly, the commitment has been "highly touted" by several national services, from ESPN to Scout, but I haven't seen MAC related media outside of the local Kent paper mention anything. So, yeah, I'm annoyed when the only mention by one of the few MAC focused writers is negative.
As my friend KStud has observed, instead of appreciating the good news, several others on this board have been focused on negative speculation. First, it was that we'd run off someone to take him. Now that one of our coaches assures us that no one is leaving, "news " moves to the poor quality of his prep school. IF Chris Singletary shows up, it's good news for the MAC. Leave it at that.
If there is an interest in going with speculation as news, maybe we can chew on the possibility of Jay Youngblood getting a legit shot at the NBA due to his performance in the summer games for the Mavs.
What the hell would you like? The front page of the sports section in the Chicagio Trib? Or possibly the New York Times? Maybe front page of ESPN.com? Sorry, it ain't going to happen. This is MAC basketball we are talking about not the BE.
You completely miss my point. A delay, perhaps, until you can figure out and post how this relates to NIU?
FlashFan Wrote:The prep school Singletary attended as a senior is a joke. It should get far better academic standards or close. Either way, he attended another school for three years, the NCAA has cleared his school for next year, so your hope he won't make it may be deflated.
Flashes fans don't know officially whether Chris is coming or not. Unofficially, he'll remind us of a taller Antonio Gates. Good for us, bad for you. Hopefully, the fact that he was admitted to University of Missouri before Kent State will help. If not, we'll move on. Losing a player like Chris will hurt, but given the report we have that the highest rated recruit ever to the MAC (or, at least the 25 years I've been following it) stating we are first on his list will dry our tears. It would be very nice to have two Top 50 players in our backcourt, but one will do.
More important to us is Coach Opp's public report that everyone on last years' roster will return. After our APR fiasco, this is great news. It also quells the outrage we'd run someone off for Singletary.
Besides, this is our down year. Why all the concern about us? We just hope seven guys want to suit up. All of you should be focused on the Akron Zips, because we know the pre season favorite always wins in the MAC.
I believe Walter Luckett (OU) is the most highly touted MAC recruit ever. As a freshman,he graced the cover of Sports Illustrated in 1972 in an article on freshman that would have an impact on the national college basketball scene.
Probably. My reference was to the last 25 years in the MAC. The recruit I refer to is not Singletary, BTW. He's a possibility for the 2007 class.
FlashFan Wrote:You completely miss my point. A delay, perhaps, until you can figure out and post how this relates to NIU?
I am sorry for posting on a thread on a Kan't recruit in the MID AMERICAN CONFERENCE TALK. I didn't see a "for Kan't fans only" message.
I was responding to your bitching that outside a few MAC sources and a local paper, you have not seen it mentioned. My response was "no ****". We are in the MAC for b-ball(which pretty much is very average in its best years and below that in crappy ones). Did you really expect it to show up on the sports front pages of major newspapers? If you did, you are REALLY delusional on how good Kan't b-ball really is. Most people outside the MAC don't give a **** about Kan't or the MAC.
RobertN Wrote:FlashFan Wrote:You completely miss my point. A delay, perhaps, until you can figure out and post how this relates to NIU?
I am sorry for posting on a thread on a Kan't recruit in the MID AMERICAN CONFERENCE TALK. I didn't see a "for Kan't fans only" message.
I was responding to your bitching that outside a few MAC sources and a local paper, you have not seen it mentioned. My response was "no darn". We are in the MAC for b-ball(which pretty much is very average in its best years and below that in crappy ones). Did you really expect it to show up on the sports front pages of major newspapers? If you did, you are REALLY delusional on how good Kan't b-ball really is. Most people outside the MAC don't give a darn about Kan't or the MAC.
Also, an added point, right now the MAC is known for its football. MAC Football continually receives a lot more support on TV, in newspapers and magazines, online, on the radio, etc. than MAC basketball. I think we all know this to be true. However, i would like to some day see the MAC be known for both.
It may be more accurate to say that NIU is known for its football. I don't know that the current national perception of the MAC is as a football conference.
Quote:I was responding to your bitching that outside a few MAC sources and a local paper, you have not seen it mentioned
Really? Read my post.
CMichFan Wrote:It may be more accurate to say that NIU is known for its football. I don't know that the current national perception of the MAC is as a football conference.
What have you been smoking? There is no doubt that the MAC is more of a football conference. This isn't me drinking red kool-aid or being a homer. I won't even get into what CMU is known for as you know damn well what your recent players have done.
FlashFan Wrote:Quote:I was responding to your bitching that outside a few MAC sources and a local paper, you have not seen it mentioned
Really? Read my post.
I will take that back. I read it completely opposite of what you said. Sorry.
But I DO stand by my comments that the MAC is more of a football conference than a b-ball one. I believe some KENT fans have mentioned that.
Quote:What have you been smoking? There is no doubt that the MAC is more of a football conference.
I'd say there plenty of room for debate. I have a couple sports-junkie coworkers who know so little about MAC football (well, knew, I enlightened them a bit) that they thought we are I-AA in football. About the only thing they knew about the MAC was that some of our teams have pulled upsets in the NCAA tourney in recent years.
Quote:I won't even get into what CMU is known for as you know damn well what your recent players have done.
Ah, yes one of the most basic strategies, when you realize you're making a weak argument: deflect, deflect, deflect! :shhh:
CMichFan Wrote:Quote:What have you been smoking? There is no doubt that the MAC is more of a football conference.
I'd say there plenty of room for debate. I have a couple sports-junkie coworkers who know so little about MAC football (well, knew, I enlightened them a bit) that they thought we are I-AA in football. About the only thing they knew about the MAC was that some of our teams have pulled upsets in the NCAA tourney in recent years.
Quote:I won't even get into what CMU is known for as you know damn well what your recent players have done.
Ah, yes one of the most basic strategies, when you realize you're making a weak argument: deflect, deflect, deflect! :shhh:
That is because you are in Michigan. There are only 2 teams Mich State and Mich. The rest are irrelevant and very few pay attention to them. If you are far enough, maybe OSU takes the spotlight away from the MAC. Outside of the ignorance of the Michigan populace, there definately has been more tv of football. There has been more coverage of football in the newspapers. There have been more successful players going into the NFL vs NBA(I know the size difference but look at it as a ratio. Football is making more news. Hell, even one of the MAC's best b-ball players plays football). With all the MAC football news out there, you can't possibly tell me with a straight face most of the nation knows the MAC more as a b-ball conference than a football one. That is not to say that most know we play Div. 1 football, they just know that we have credible football teams and players.
CMichFan Wrote:I'd say there plenty of room for debate. I have a couple sports-junkie coworkers who know so little about MAC football (well, knew, I enlightened them a bit) that they thought we are I-AA in football. About the only thing they knew about the MAC was that some of our teams have pulled upsets in the NCAA tourney in recent years.
I wouldn't consider anyone who doesn't know that the MAC is a 1A f-ball conference a "sports junkie". Besides, anecdotal evidence doesn't allow much room for debate.
Quote:I wouldn't consider anyone who doesn't know that the MAC is a 1A f-ball conference a "sports junkie". Besides, anecdotal evidence doesn't allow much room for debate.
The guys in question can tell you all about the Big Ten and a lot of the other BCS schools. Like it or not, the average "sports junkie" just doesn't know that much about the MAC, unless that person is a MAC fan. I don't like it, but it's true. If you need proof of that, look at all the media commentary and preseason stuff. How many people on this board and others complain constantly about lack of research before writing MAC articles? How many of you remember the various "Midwestern" or "Mid-America" or "MAC
Conference" misnomers that have been given by coaches and even ADs in recent years?
Those of us here know that the MAC has quality sports players and facilities and can compete with the mid- to lower-tier BCS programs on the whole. However, that's not the average fan. As for evidence, maybe someone with media connections should do a national poll of some kind, to see what people actually think. I don't dispute that the MAC has a growing football presence, but when I see Con-USA ranked above the MAC in football in so many publications, what does that suggest?
Quote:That is because you are in Michigan. There are only 2 teams Mich State and Mich. The rest are irrelevant and very few pay attention to them. If you are far enough, maybe OSU takes the spotlight away from the MAC. Outside of the ignorance of the Michigan populace, there definately has been more tv of football. There has been more coverage of football in the newspapers. There have been more successful players going into the NFL vs NBA(I know the size difference but look at it as a ratio. Football is making more news. Hell, even one of the MAC's best b-ball players plays football). With all the MAC football news out there, you can't possibly tell me with a straight face most of the nation knows the MAC more as a b-ball conference than a football one. That is not to say that most know we play Div. 1 football, they just know that we have credible football teams and players.
See, now that's actually a more reasoned argument. Layered with a healthy dose of arrogance -- I don't know what your beef with Michigan MAC schools specifically is -- but still more reasoned than what you said previously.