Got this from Maize on the Big East board...thought I would post it here because it appears that the MAC has some games that week that should really set the pace of MAC Football for 2006. Hopefully this year will be better than last for the MAC!
http://www.jhowell.net/cf/cfpred.txt
Boston College (-15) @ Central Michigan (TP=48 Odds=.736)
Minnesota (-22.5) @ Kent (TP=55 Odds=.798)
Iowa State (-3) vs. Toledo (TP=53 Odds=.543)
Miami (Ohio) (-3.5) vs. Northwestern (TP=58 Odds=.546)
Ball State (-7.5) vs. Eastern Michigan (TP=56 Odds=.608)
Temple (-4.5) @ Buffalo (TP=50 Odds=.572)
Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
Wisconsin (-6.5) vs. Bowling Green State (TP=56 Odds=.592) @ Cleveland, OH
Penn State (-18.5) vs. Akron (TP=49 Odds=.778)
Indiana (-5) vs. Western Michigan (TP=58 Odds=.569)
*Ohio line not given, as they are either playing a I-AA or they are not playing in Week 1.
BullsFanatic Wrote:Penn State (-18.5) vs. Akron (TP=49 Odds=.778)
Wow, looks like Las Vegas doesn't respect our conference champion!
I think WMU +5 wouldn't be a bad choice.
Thanks for posting, Bullsfan.
BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
OUCH!! 20.5?!?!
Quote:Iowa St. (-3) vs. Toledo (TP=53 Odds=.543)
With a new QB
AT Iowa St., -3 isn't too bad
BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
rocketman49 Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Penn State (-18.5) vs. Akron (TP=49 Odds=.778)
Wow, looks like Las Vegas doesn't respect our conference champion!
Well Penn State did win the Big 10.
The Knight Time Wrote:rocketman49 Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Penn State (-18.5) vs. Akron (TP=49 Odds=.778)
Wow, looks like Las Vegas doesn't respect our conference champion!
Well Penn State did win the Big 10.
Penn State won the conference not Ohio State, and they still have a larger spread for NIU against the 2nd best Big Ten team. Damn, it's like no one realizes OSU loses 9 of its 11 defensive players who had a ton of experience and playing time. They also lost an offensive lineman and their best WR Santonio Holmes. I still think Tedd Ginn, Jr. is overrated.
epasnoopy Wrote:The Knight Time Wrote:rocketman49 Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Penn State (-18.5) vs. Akron (TP=49 Odds=.778)
Wow, looks like Las Vegas doesn't respect our conference champion!
Well Penn State did win the Big 10.
Penn State won the conference not Ohio State, and they still have a larger spread for NIU against the 2nd best Big Ten team. Damn, it's like no one realizes OSU loses 9 of its 11 defensive players who had a ton of experience and playing time. They also lost an offensive lineman and their best WR Santonio Holmes. I still think Tedd Ginn, Jr. is overrated.
Penn State lost a lot from last year's team. Ohio State didn't lose much on offense, though they lost a lot on defense. I have heard many experts say that the players replacing those guys on defense are just as good, but just inexperienced.
epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I hope that I am wrong, but I think the 20 points is about right. Ohio State has an awesome offense coming back. They lost a lot on defense, but experts say the replacements are just as good and only lack experience at this point.
NIU might score 21-24 points, but Ohio State might score 42-49 points.
epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I will say, if NIU is comparable to the team they had last season, and OSU is likewise a similar team then I say buckeyes cover the 20 points.
NIU was not very good last season.
The MAC a whole was really down and NIU lost too many games that on paper they should have won.
That being said, maybe NIU will be improved and OSU will be down.
I truly think that BGSU had a chance to have one of the best season's in conference history with the offense they had but the D was SO unexpectedly pitiful that something potentially special was wasted.
epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I think NIU actually has a shot in this game. NIU would have beat Michigan if the NIU QB had not turned the ball over so many times. I remember that 70 yarder that GW broke against their defense.
i am ALL OVER most of these games. the only one i may stay away from is the Toledo one. if the spread gets any higher i would jump on it though.
owen Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I will say, if NIU is comparable to the team they had last season, and OSU is likewise a similar team then I say buckeyes cover the 20 points.
NIU was not very good last season.
The MAC a whole was really down and NIU lost too many games that on paper they should have won.
That being said, maybe NIU will be improved and OSU will be down.
I truly think that BGSU had a chance to have one of the best season's in conference history with the offense they had but the D was SO unexpectedly pitiful that something potentially special was wasted.
If that is true, what does that say about Toledo.
owen Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I will say, if NIU is comparable to the team they had last season, and OSU is likewise a similar team then I say buckeyes cover the 20 points.
NIU was not very good last season.
The MAC a whole was really down and NIU lost too many games that on paper they should have won.
That being said, maybe NIU will be improved and OSU will be down.
I truly think that BGSU had a chance to have one of the best season's in conference history with the offense they had but the D was SO unexpectedly pitiful that something potentially special was wasted.
NIU will be improved next season. NIU was a good team offensively. We put up more ypg on offense than in 2004 (when we went 9-3) and only about 1.5 ppg less on offense. We basically equaled our 2004 offensive output even with having to replace 5 offensive starters from the previous season. The reason NIU did not win the games it should have was because of the defense which was young and inexperienced. NIU had to replace 7 defensive starters last season. In the first 5 games last season the NIU defense gave up 149 points (average of 29.8 ppg). In the last 7 games of the season the NIU defense gave up 126 points (average of 17.9 ppg). As you can tell, the NIU defense got a lot better in the last 7 games of the season since our inexperienced players had more playing time and experience. And that was even with quite a few injuries that plagued our defensive line.
Last year Ohio State went into the season returning 18 starters (7 more than NIU). They could only put up 34 points against Miami (OH) and 27 points against San Diego St. Two teams that NIU was better than. Ohio State could only put up 25 points against Michigan. NIU put up 17 points (would have been more if we didn't have 5 turnovers), only 8 points less we put up against the same team. NIU did this only returning 11 starters (replacing 5 starters on offensive, 7 starters on defense, and our starting punter). This season NIU returns 15 of 24 starters, as opposed to last season when we returned 11 of 24 starters. And this season Ohio State only returns 11 of 24 starters, returning 7 less starters than last season.
Ohio State no longer will have that steller defense that created the opportunities for the Ohio State offense (#32 in the nation) to excel. NIU's offense (#16 in the nation) did most of its work with little help from its defense.
I understand that the players Ohio State will replace with on defense might have talent. But experienced players know what to look for and can read offenses better. Experience is very crucial. AJ Hawk is a rarely found type of linebacker. I doubt there is any linebacker on that team that will be as good as him this year. There is no way that the OSU defense is the same #5 total defense it was last year in the first game of the 2006 season.
P.S. NIU was good last season. We lost 3 games by a total of 8 points. Had we had more experience on defense in the beginning of the season and not so many defensive injuries towards the end of the season we would have been at least 10-2.
epasnoopy Wrote:owen Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I will say, if NIU is comparable to the team they had last season, and OSU is likewise a similar team then I say buckeyes cover the 20 points.
NIU was not very good last season.
The MAC a whole was really down and NIU lost too many games that on paper they should have won.
That being said, maybe NIU will be improved and OSU will be down.
I truly think that BGSU had a chance to have one of the best season's in conference history with the offense they had but the D was SO unexpectedly pitiful that something potentially special was wasted.
NIU will be improved next season. NIU was a good team offensively. We put up more ypg on offense than in 2004 (when we went 9-3) and only about 1.5 ppg less on offense. We basically equaled our 2004 offensive output even with having to replace 5 offensive starters from the previous season. The reason NIU did not win the games it should have was because of the defense which was young and inexperienced. NIU had to replace 7 defensive starters last season. In the first 5 games last season the NIU defense gave up 149 points (average of 29.8 ppg). In the last 7 games of the season the NIU defense gave up 126 points (average of 17.9 ppg). As you can tell, the NIU defense got a lot better in the last 7 games of the season since our inexperienced players had more playing time and experience. And that was even with quite a few injuries that plagued our defensive line.
Last year Ohio State went into the season returning 18 starters (7 more than NIU). They could only put up 34 points against Miami (OH) and 27 points against San Diego St. Two teams that NIU was better than. Ohio State could only put up 25 points against Michigan. NIU put up 17 points (would have been more if we didn't have 5 turnovers), only 8 points less we put up against the same team. NIU did this only returning 11 starters (replacing 5 starters on offensive, 7 starters on defense, and our starting punter). This season NIU returns 15 of 24 starters, as opposed to last season when we returned 11 of 24 starters. And this season Ohio State only returns 11 of 24 starters, returning 7 less starters than last season.
Ohio State no longer will have that steller defense that created the opportunities for the Ohio State offense (#32 in the nation) to excel. NIU's offense (#16 in the nation) did most of its work with little help from its defense.
I understand that the players Ohio State will replace with on defense might have talent. But experienced players know what to look for and can read offenses better. Experience is very crucial. AJ Hawk is a rarely found type of linebacker. I doubt there is any linebacker on that team that will be as good as him this year. There is no way that the OSU defense is the same #5 total defense it was last year in the first game of the 2006 season.
P.S. NIU was good last season. We lost 3 games by a total of 8 points. Had we had more experience on defense in the beginning of the season and not so many defensive injuries towards the end of the season we would have been at least 10-2.
Don't be stupid.Look OSU's recruiting classes and their new players, many of them were top 5 recruits.Your comparing the Buckeyes to NIU's personnel is ridiculous.NIU can maybe match up with the Bucks at 6 or 7 positions.After having to share time with Zwick,Troy Smith had OSU rolling on all cylinders.A couple of scores you ought to look at is OSU 48 Northwestern 7 and Northwestern 38 NIU 37.OSU is capable of covering the 20 points.The big question is at what point in the game will OSU decide to shut it down?
RobertN Wrote:owen Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I will say, if NIU is comparable to the team they had last season, and OSU is likewise a similar team then I say buckeyes cover the 20 points.
NIU was not very good last season.
The MAC a whole was really down and NIU lost too many games that on paper they should have won.
That being said, maybe NIU will be improved and OSU will be down.
I truly think that BGSU had a chance to have one of the best season's in conference history with the offense they had but the D was SO unexpectedly pitiful that something potentially special was wasted.
If that is true, what does that say about Toledo.
It says University of Toledo #26 Final AP Div.I-A Football Poll 2005-06.
Endzone2 Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I think NIU actually has a shot in this game. NIU would have beat Michigan if the NIU QB had not turned the ball over so many times. I remember that 70 yarder that GW broke against their defense.
Our RB and WR fumbled at critical times late in the first half of that game - on a 15 yard screen play inside the Michigan 20 and inside our own 15 on a flubbed punt return.
It'd be tremendous if we could beat OSU. It'll be extremely difficult. But we do at least tend to cover against the BCS teams we play, so +20.5 is a very good risk to take. Also, OSU does not tend to blow out its early season mid-major competition - 21 points or less against each of them the last few years, with Kent St being the exception, of course.
Looks like the easy money for you guys is buffalo...
RobertN Wrote:owen Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:BullsFanatic Wrote:Ohio State (-20.5) vs. Northern Illinois (TP=51 Odds=.797)
I would take that spread. No way NIU loses by over 20 points, nearly 3 TD's.
I will say, if NIU is comparable to the team they had last season, and OSU is likewise a similar team then I say buckeyes cover the 20 points.
NIU was not very good last season.
The MAC a whole was really down and NIU lost too many games that on paper they should have won.
That being said, maybe NIU will be improved and OSU will be down.
I truly think that BGSU had a chance to have one of the best season's in conference history with the offense they had but the D was SO unexpectedly pitiful that something potentially special was wasted.
If that is true, what does that say about Toledo.
If the MAC was down last year, that would include Toledo Einstein. ;-)