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cyberdawg Wrote:ISU shut out NIU - in the fourth quarter - so there.

Wasn't Victor E in at tailback for final fifteen minutes?

Coach called off the dawgs early in that one.

One particular joy was the large number of Redbird fans filling two sections of Huskie Stadium ...........for two quarters.

I recall similar hynee wipings of ISU during the Bork era. They were using the same playbook back then too. The combined score of the two games in 64 and 65 was :
NIU 91 - ISU 6.

Can someone please get the 2006 Akron playbook?

If you want to look them up, here you go.

http://michigan-football.com/ncaa/f/northill.htm
Was '81 the last year NIU lost to ISU? The two have not really played each other all that much in past 20+ seasons in games which were once big rivalries.

One interesting factoid from a quick scannning of those records from past seasons is to learn NIU has played Indiana State and lost two of three!

thanks for the link, Robert.

Beats digging for my older NIU media guides.
Bite my Huskie tongue , Mike Korcek !

Why is Michigan HS football logo on the website to NIU records? Did you bookmark this last fall prior to game In Ann Arbor?
I just looked at the ISU board, I hate how they rip on an NIU education. They can go **** themselves.
garyindiana Wrote:I just looked at the ISU board, I hate how they rip on an NIU education. They can go damn themselves.

is that you trolling there? b/c if so, youre making us look retarded.
niuhuskie84 Wrote:
garyindiana Wrote:I just looked at the ISU board, I hate how they rip on an NIU education. They can go damn themselves.

is that you trolling there? b/c if so, youre making us look retarded.

nope not me perhaps it is really that crazywilly guy you guys are always talking about.
niuhuskie84 Wrote:
garyindiana Wrote:I just looked at the ISU board, I hate how they rip on an NIU education. They can go damn themselves.

is that you trolling there? b/c if so, youre making us look retarded.

Do "of these two highly similar schools mine is better than yours" pissing contests ever have another result than to make the people involved look retarded?
RobertN Wrote:
cyberdawg Wrote:ISU shut out NIU - in the fourth quarter - so there.

Wasn't Victor E in at tailback for final fifteen minutes?

Coach called off the dawgs early in that one.

One particular joy was the large number of Redbird fans filling two sections of Huskie Stadium ...........for two quarters.

I recall similar hynee wipings of ISU during the Bork era. They were using the same playbook back then too. The combined score of the two games in 64 and 65 was :
NIU 91 - ISU 6.

Can someone please get the 2006 Akron playbook?

If you want to look them up, here you go.

http://michigan-football.com/ncaa/f/northill.htm

why in the world were we in the Big West Conference?
GaryIN.,

It's a long and sordid tale.

Briefly:

Following NIU's banner season in MAC winning both football and bball titles in 1983, NIU withdrew from MAC . We gained no admires for the decision.

The athletic dept had champagne ambitions on a Thunderbird wine budget, no plan, no facilities nor mechanisms in place to survive as an independent.

Scheduling became a nightmere.

Desparate persons and desparate orgs do desparate things.

Desparate for a home, NIU eventaully found one which was about as foreign as any membership could have been. It was better than the alternative but not by much. In retrospect , it kept the program alive unlike Buffalo which eventually dropped football. Perhaps without the BIG WEST, NIU mite be where UB is today.

The move to withdraw from the MAC set NIU backwards for decades.

Fifteen years later, our Huskie tails between our legs and now lite years behind the better MAC athletic programs, we groveled in order to return to the MAC.

Those fans today seeking higher competition in another conf have not learned from the debacle and are doomed to commit the same sins of NIU's forefathers.
cyberdawg Wrote:GaryIN.,

It's a long and sordid tale.

Briefly:

Following NIU's banner season in MAC winning both football and bball titles in 1983, NIU withdrew from MAC . We gained no admires for the decision.

The athletic dept had champagne ambitions on a Thunderbird wine budget, no plan, no facilities nor mechanisms in place to survive as an independent.

Scheduling became a nightmere.

Desparate persons and desparate orgs do desparate things.

Desparate for a home, NIU eventaully found one which was about as foreign as any membership could have been. It was better than the alternative but not by much. In retrospect , it kept the program alive unlike Buffalo which eventually dropped football. Perhaps without the BIG WEST, NIU mite be where UB is today.

The move to withdraw from the MAC set NIU backwards for decades.

Fifteen years later, our Huskie tails between our legs and now lite years behind the better MAC athletic programs, we groveled in order to return to the MAC.

Those fans today seeking higher competition in another conf have not learned from the debacle and are doomed to commit the same sins of NIU's forefathers.

Not true Cybes. We are in a lot better shape today with facilities than we were then. It is also a different climate. Right now things seem somewhat settled but what happens when the BE comes looking for more teams and others want to leave? What happens when the Big 11 expands to 12 for a championship game and the $$$ that goes with it? THese things are likely in the next 10 years(possibly sooner). What do we do if say, Toledo and or Miami goes to the BE? That is 2 top MAC teams down. Do we want to stay in a sinking ship of newly moved up 1AA teams and 1A teams that have been bottom feeders for years? It would make a great 1AA conference and I think that is where it will go.
Robert.

Facilities have improved in the last five/seven years but they still are not equal to the better MAC programs. Is that NOT what JoeN said in Naperville just two weeks ago?

For fifteen seasons NIU was unable to replace wooden bleachers on East side of stadium & I call that a huge shortcoming for many seasons while our opponents were making improvements and WINNING.

Progress has been made. ALOT more remains to be achieved. Who already has training facilites including an indoor practice field?

Mite that be Akron?
cyberdawg Wrote:Robert.

Facilities have improved in the last five/seven years but they still are not equal to the better MAC programs. Is that NOT what JoeN said in Naperville just two weeks ago?

For fifteen seasons NIU was unable to replace wooden bleachers on East side of stadium & I call that a huge shortcoming for many seasons while our opponents were making improvements and WINNING.

Progress has been made. ALOT more remains to be achieved. Who already has training facilites including an indoor practice field?

Mite that be Akron?

I don't know, I wasn't there. ;-) Seriously, remember who his audience was and you said it yourself in the post, they were the "big" donors. That is why he said that. He wants the cash to keep flowing. You will never hear, I am satisfied with what we have. If you do, the person should be replaced immediately. One thing to remember is that most teams don't have indoor practice facilities(BCS/non-BCS). So that is a luxury. However, most teams have a facility like the AAPC though they may be older.
garyindiana Wrote:I just looked at the ISU board, I hate how they rip on an NIU education. They can go damn themselves.

I measure it by that most of their grads could never even work for me.
Regardless of Novak's audience, how do YOU think the NIU athletic facilites compare to the top tier of MAC programs?

Have you seen WMU's baseball field?
Go to Akrons website for new indoor practice facility
or check out CMU.



GaryIN asked why the Big West?

Prior to completion of Convo and East Grandstands which occurred AFTER NIU's second admission back into MAC membership, the period in question & our Big West membership can partly be explained by leaving MAC with ultra crappy D-1 facilities second to most everyone else.
If U want to see a heck of a baseball field in metro Chicago, check out Triton CC's. Of course it helps to have a donor named Kirby Puckett (who played there) They have a green painted wooden fence and instead of the bleachers U find at most amateur baseball parks they have brick & concrete Grandstand seating with individual seats! It had to cost well over a $1m to build and looks great.
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