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Had an opportunity to talk to some of the MAC

Nick:

Great tidbits!

Temple is commited to, what, six MAC games in 2006?

I sure hope the "unknown" OOC game for BG is at the Doyt.

We've heard before that the Indy Bowl is dead, but some folks seem to want to continue to push it as a viable alternative. Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Any discussion of the MAC "swiping" bowl affiliations from another conference? *cough* C-DOA *cough*

http//uhcougars.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111505aae.html

C-USA just signed new deals with all their bowl games in September. Five out of the six bowl games are in or within one hour of a C-USA city. I don't see C-USA losing any of these bowl games to a MAC school.

The only bowl that does not have a strong C-USA presence is the Hawaii Bowl.

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

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Football schedules
4. NIU will be hosting Iowa in Soldiers Field either in 2007 or 2008

I figured OU would be the one that ended up on WVU's schedule but now that you said WVU won't have a MAC school on its schedule in 2006, I'm very curious to see who our 4th OOC game is going to be. I'm looking forward to the end of the month or the beginning of next month when the official schedules come out.

Redwingtom Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

I think he does. The problem is he and his staff are incompetant and have no power to get anything done. I guess the MAC/BT deal may be a success if we see BT teams to occasionally come to MAC stadiums(not just nearby pro stadiums).

P.S. I told all of you the Toronto bowl would never be a go, yet Nick and all the MAC sheep really believed it would happen. Suckers! lmfao

RobertN Wrote:

Redwingtom Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

I think he does. The problem is he and his staff are incompetant and have no power to get anything done. I guess the MAC/BT deal may be a success if we see BT teams to occasionally come to MAC stadiums(not just nearby pro stadiums).

P.S. I told all of you the Toronto bowl would never be a go, yet Nick and all the MAC sheep really believed it would happen. Suckers! lmfao

Redwingtom:

Exactly. It's not that Chryst & Company doesn't want another bowl or that they haven't been working diligently to land one. However, that hasn't stopped the sort of non-reality based Chryst bashing exhibited by RobertN from bursting out all over the boards.

I knew someone would take the bait, hook-line-and sinker.

RobertN Wrote:

Redwingtom Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

I think he does. The problem is he and his staff are incompetant and have no power to get anything done. I guess the MAC/BT deal may be a success if we see BT teams to occasionally come to MAC stadiums(not just nearby pro stadiums).

You are right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant. They were not able to bring in the GMAC Bowl in 2001 and they were not able to get us a better TV deal than what we had before. They were not able to get the MACC Game to a neutral field and with a corporate sponsor either. They also were not able to get the MAC aligned with the Silicon Valley Bowl in 2003 when the original tie-in was not going to be able to fulfill it. They were not able to get schools like Wisconsin to play BG at Cleveland and Iowa to play NIU at Soldier Field. They could not get a MAC/Big Ten scheduling agreement done when it would have been the first time in MAC history for an agreement like that with the Big Ten. They have not been able to build up the MAC image to the point where 10 years ago you asked someone in Kentucky about Toledo football and they got a confused look and now you ask them and they say "yeah, good football team."

You are so right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant and have no power to do anything. :withstupid:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

Redwingtom Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

I think he does. The problem is he and his staff are incompetant and have no power to get anything done. I guess the MAC/BT deal may be a success if we see BT teams to occasionally come to MAC stadiums(not just nearby pro stadiums).

P.S. I told all of you the Toronto bowl would never be a go, yet Nick and all the MAC sheep really believed it would happen. Suckers! lmfao

Redwingtom:

Exactly. It's not that Chryst & Company doesn't want another bowl or that they haven't been working diligently to land one. However, that hasn't stopped the sort of non-reality based Chryst bashing exhibited by RobertN from bursting out all over the boards.

I knew someone would take the bait, hook-line-and sinker.

lmfao MY non-reality based bashing? I think it is all you Chryst lovers who have their heads up their ass...or possibly his. I can't believe you guys just don't see that he has no standing in the world of college sports. That is why he can't get anything done. C-USA reupped their contracts and we get none. We try to get bowls in our neighborhood but no one wants any part of us. Why? Well, I am looking DIRECTLY at Kent and Buffalo in football and the entire conference in B-ball(including NIU). The best attendance was something under 6,000. No wonder the MAC gets no respect and Chryst has no standing.

rocketfootball Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

Redwingtom Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

I think he does. The problem is he and his staff are incompetant and have no power to get anything done. I guess the MAC/BT deal may be a success if we see BT teams to occasionally come to MAC stadiums(not just nearby pro stadiums).

You are right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant. They were not able to bring in the GMAC Bowl in 2001 and they were not able to get us a better TV deal than what we had before. They were not able to get the MACC Game to a neutral field and with a corporate sponsor either. They also were not able to get the MAC aligned with the Silicon Valley Bowl in 2003 when the original tie-in was not going to be able to fulfill it. They were not able to get schools like Wisconsin to play BG at Cleveland and Iowa to play NIU at Soldier Field. They could not get a MAC/Big Ten scheduling agreement done when it would have been the first time in MAC history for an agreement like that with the Big Ten. They have not been able to build up the MAC image to the point where 10 years ago you asked someone in Kentucky about Toledo football and they got a confused look and now you ask them and they say "yeah, good football team."

You are so right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant and have no power to do anything. :withstupid:

Chryst didn't get Soldier Field, Phillps did. Just like Phillips got the Independence Bowl.

Although I do agree Chrst has done some good things.

rocketfootball Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

Redwingtom Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

I think he does. The problem is he and his staff are incompetant and have no power to get anything done. I guess the MAC/BT deal may be a success if we see BT teams to occasionally come to MAC stadiums(not just nearby pro stadiums).

You are right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant. They were not able to bring in the GMAC Bowl in 2001 and they were not able to get us a better TV deal than what we had before. They were not able to get the MACC Game to a neutral field and with a corporate sponsor either. They also were not able to get the MAC aligned with the Silicon Valley Bowl in 2003 when the original tie-in was not going to be able to fulfill it. They were not able to get schools like Wisconsin to play BG at Cleveland and Iowa to play NIU at Soldier Field. They could not get a MAC/Big Ten scheduling agreement done when it would have been the first time in MAC history for an agreement like that with the Big Ten. They have not been able to build up the MAC image to the point where 10 years ago you asked someone in Kentucky about Toledo football and they got a confused look and now you ask them and they say "yeah, good football team."

You are so right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant and have no power to do anything. :withstupid:

He got it(GMAC) because they wanted Marshall but ended up that the MAC did travel well enough to the game that they stayed when Marshall left to C-USA. The TV was bound to happen. With the massive demand for sporting events(especially mid week football) and an opportunity to rake in the bucks for ESPN, he was in the right place at the right time. Once they found out how profitable, they have continued and increased our exposure but remember, we are playing for ESPN. It is not really up to Chryst when we play.

G-FORCE Wrote:Chryst didn't get Soldier Field, Phillps did. Just like Phillips got the Independence Bowl.

Although I do agree Chrst has done some good things.

:iagree: The problem is these people have no clue that Phillips has more clout than Chryst. I do have to say if it weren't for the BT deal, the game wouldn't happen BUT I still question who is the one that really got the MAC/BT deal done.

Rocketfootball, how can you credit Chryst with the Silicon Valley bowl? There was 100% chance that a MAC team was going to play in it because the only bowl eligible team that did not go bowling was Akron.

You credit him with the TV deal but is it really worth playing every game on weeknights in November? There are going to be several empty seats for these games and I bet it costs some athletic departments some cash.

What about the move to get football only memberships for Temple and UCF?

How can you really call Chryst a good commissioner when ever conference but the Sunbelt has at least 4 tie ins?

G-FORCE Wrote:

rocketfootball Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

Redwingtom Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:Thank you for pointing out that it's not the MAC or Chryst that killed the idea, but instead the folks in Indy who would ultimately be responsible for making the event a success. Not that this will stop some posters from using this as an excuse to pummel Chryst.

Who in their right mind would ever think that Chryst would not want another bowl game?

I think he does. The problem is he and his staff are incompetant and have no power to get anything done. I guess the MAC/BT deal may be a success if we see BT teams to occasionally come to MAC stadiums(not just nearby pro stadiums).

You are right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant. They were not able to bring in the GMAC Bowl in 2001 and they were not able to get us a better TV deal than what we had before. They were not able to get the MACC Game to a neutral field and with a corporate sponsor either. They also were not able to get the MAC aligned with the Silicon Valley Bowl in 2003 when the original tie-in was not going to be able to fulfill it. They were not able to get schools like Wisconsin to play BG at Cleveland and Iowa to play NIU at Soldier Field. They could not get a MAC/Big Ten scheduling agreement done when it would have been the first time in MAC history for an agreement like that with the Big Ten. They have not been able to build up the MAC image to the point where 10 years ago you asked someone in Kentucky about Toledo football and they got a confused look and now you ask them and they say "yeah, good football team."

You are so right. Chryst and his staff are incompetant and have no power to do anything. :withstupid:

Chryst didn't get Soldier Field, Phillps did. Just like Phillips got the Independence Bowl.

Although I do agree Chrst has done some good things.

I didn't mention the Independence Bowl, I mentioned the SVFC. As for Phillips getting Soldier Field and not Chryst. Fine. But I also think that BG paved the way to SF for NIU by getting Wisconsin to play them in Cleveland and everything I have heard is that Chryst was very instrumental in getting the Wisky/BG deal in Cleveland done.

RobertN Wrote:

G-FORCE Wrote:Chryst didn't get Soldier Field, Phillps did. Just like Phillips got the Independence Bowl.

Although I do agree Chrst has done some good things.

:iagree: The problem is these people have no clue that Phillips has more clout than Chryst. I do have to say if it weren't for the BT deal, the game wouldn't happen BUT I still question who is the one that really got the MAC/BT deal done.

Then maybe we should get rid of Chryst and made the almighty Phillips our commish.

Jack Burns Wrote:Rocketfootball, how can you credit Chryst with the Silicon Valley bowl? There was 100% chance that a MAC team was going to play in it because the only bowl eligible team that did not go bowling was Akron.

You credit him with the TV deal but is it really worth playing every game on weeknights in November? There are going to be several empty seats for these games and I bet it costs some athletic departments some cash.

What about the move to get football only memberships for Temple and UCF?

How can you really call Chryst a good commissioner when ever conference but the Sunbelt has at least 4 tie ins?

At the time that Chryst got the MAC/SVFC agreement we didn't know that Akron would be the only team not bowling. Clemson and South Carolina had not had their fight and disqaulify themselves from a bowl game and there were still a few other schools with changes at being bowl eligible.

TV deal. The exposure it brings to the teams play in the games far outweighs having to play a few games on weekdays. Plus, the fact that we actually get paid something instead of paying ESPN (like it was with the previous commish) is pretty nice.

Temple is definitely a question mark, but obviously Chryst sees value in it. It may be that he believes we can get their basketball program within a few years. Who knows, 5 years from now we may look back and say "wow, Chryst was the only one that actually saw that bringing in Temple was a good thing for us."

UCF was a smart move no matter what you want to say. Everyone, and I mean everyone knew that it was a marriage of convenience and was not meant to last long. UCF brought the Sunshine Network and television exposure in Florida for MAC schools. Several MAC schools are now getting multiple recruits each year from Florida and that wasn't happening before. Anyone that doesn't think the UCF deal was a help to the MAC is not seeing the total picture.

I think Chryst has done plenty of good. However the Temple thing is a real black mark.

But sticking to a specific issue, why is he not able to sell Indy on a bowl game? They have a stadium, certainly a free night or day to use it at some point in the bowl season, they have MAC schools within easy distance. It would seem all he'd have to do is point out how well the game in Detroit has done. It seems to be poor salesmanship on somebody's part.

Just one mitigating factor: Detroit automakers got behind the MCB. Does Indy have an sponsor with deep pockets willing to do that?

MacLord Wrote:But sticking to a specific issue, why is he not able to sell Indy on a bowl game?

That's the point - they're not interested. Just because we think it makes sense doesn't mean it should make sense to them.

rocketfootball Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

G-FORCE Wrote:Chryst didn't get Soldier Field, Phillps did. Just like Phillips got the Independence Bowl.

Although I do agree Chrst has done some good things.

:iagree: The problem is these people have no clue that Phillips has more clout than Chryst. I do have to say if it weren't for the BT deal, the game wouldn't happen BUT I still question who is the one that really got the MAC/BT deal done.

Then maybe we should get rid of Chryst and made the almighty Phillips our commish.

I would have mixed feelings. I would hate to lose him as our AD but it would help the MAC.