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MAC rpi 13 sos 12
Akron 54 306
Ohio 63 314
Buffalo 78 308
NIU 80 20
Kent St 95 298
Miami 99 235

These rpi numbers should also get better for the east teams as they will start to work on sos portion of the rpi the next 6 games. Home losses hurt in rpi worse than road losses. And losing to sub 300 rpi teams at home is a big no no if you are a bubble team.
The more reliable CollegeRPI.com has this as of this a.m.:
73 Akron
77 Northern Illinois
83 Ohio
104 Miami-Ohio
117 Buffalo
118 Kent St

Will be very tough to move a team into the Top 50 as they beat each other up. Can one of these teams run the table? I highly doubt it. Even if NIU did, their SOS is going to take a beating in the 2nd half.
realtimerpi is crap.

Axeme's suggestion of CollegeRPI.com is good. MidMajority.com is another good one.
I looked some of the ratings to see how big the rpi shifted from the shocking games of Saturday.

Here is the up to date breakdown of the big six
rating service Ak OU NIU Miami Kent UB
sagarin 66 49 132 78 89 112
pomeroy 61 68 126 101 73 138
sportsline 66 90 75 110 114 112
mid-majority 74 81 80 110 120 122
nolan 74 80 79 106 120 123
col rpi 73 83 77 104 118 117
real-time 56 61 80 100 94 77
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ave 67 73 93 101 104 114

How these sites interpret road vs neutral court makes at difference. I think the OU/KY was technically a home game for UK and not a neutral court. Kentucky was the host team and had their sign on the scorers table/press row just like Rupp but in Cincinnati. Not sure how the selection commitee scored it, but these sites list games like that in different ways. Sagarin and Pomeroy use different formula to predict the future outcome and rank the teams.
I just read today that on February 2, the NCAA will post its RPI ratings on its Web site. The ratings will be updated throughout the rest of the season. This should dispel any myths about which RPI is better than another one. I like the disclosure by the NCAA in this instance.
Yeah. last year when half the MAC was top 50 they changed the formula at the last minute. At least we will know before the tournament where we really stand with rpi this year.
The RPI will not be in question this year as it has in years past with all the various places offering their versions of it. Starting next week, the NCAA is releasing the official RPI numbers for the rest of the season.
It should be pointed out that RPI is thrown out once you are in the mix at the end for the last 10 or so at-large berths. RPI does help you get in the mix but it won't get you selected over another team also in the mix. That is when they take a look at your best wins, road wins, wins vs. tourney teams, SOS, record in the last 10 games, etc.

I think it's the 3rd or 4th that it will be first released.

http://www.ncaasports.com
bobcat_backer Wrote:I just read today that on February 2, the NCAA will post its RPI ratings on its Web site. The ratings will be updated throughout the rest of the season. This should dispel any myths about which RPI is better than another one. I like the disclosure by the NCAA in this instance.

It's February 2.
bobcat_backer Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:I just read today that on February 2, the NCAA will post its RPI ratings on its Web site. The ratings will be updated throughout the rest of the season. This should dispel any myths about which RPI is better than another one. I like the disclosure by the NCAA in this instance.

It's February 2.

What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today?
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mmcincy Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:I just read today that on February 2, the NCAA will post its RPI ratings on its Web site. The ratings will be updated throughout the rest of the season. This should dispel any myths about which RPI is better than another one. I like the disclosure by the NCAA in this instance.

It's February 2.

What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today?
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well that's when the NCAA will make its RPI poll public.
axeme Wrote:The more reliable CollegeRPI.com has this as of this a.m.:
73 Akron
77 Northern Illinois
83 Ohio
104 Miami-Ohio
117 Buffalo
118 Kent St

Will be very tough to move a team into the Top 50 as they beat each other up. Can one of these teams run the table? I highly doubt it. Even if NIU did, their SOS is going to take a beating in the 2nd half.

Well we do have a bracketbuster game coming up in Feb, the Huskies hopefully will draw a quality opponent and get the W. That win plus winning over DePaul and Kansas St should be looked upon favorably, they should be enough to get us into the NIT if we don't win the MAC tournament. 04-rock
Kem Pom and MidMajority.com have just two teams, Ohio and Akron, in the top 100 today.

Ohio 58
Akron 78

NIU 103
Kent 108
Buffalo 116
Miami 123
Toledo 140
Everyone of these RPIs is a POS. For example, compare Ohio's schedule/results to Manhattan. Manhattan hasn't beaten anyone of note and they are 11-6. Ohio has played a much tougher schedule and they are 11-3. Oh yeah, and OU beat Rhode Island while Manhattan lost to Rhode Island. Yet, Manhattan is in the 40s and OU is in the 80s. I don't understand why people put so much stock in these computer rankings when the rankings consistently fly in the face of the evidence.
BGFalcons Wrote:Everyone of these RPIs is a POS. For example, compare Ohio's schedule/results to Manhattan. Manhattan hasn't beaten anyone of note and they are 11-6. Ohio has played a much tougher schedule and they are 11-3. Oh yeah, and OU beat Rhode Island while Manhattan lost to Rhode Island. Yet, Manhattan is in the 40s and OU is in the 80s. I don't understand why people put so much stock in these computer rankings when the rankings consistently fly in the face of the evidence.

As of this morning, Manhattan is #63, and Ohio #57 according to CollegeRPI.com.

But I hear what you are saying. That's why I don't think the NCAA considers RPI as much as people think. It gets you into the discussion, but ultimately they look at a lot of other factors (road record, quality wins, etc.).
BGFalcons Wrote:Everyone of these RPIs is a POS. For example, compare Ohio's schedule/results to Manhattan. Manhattan hasn't beaten anyone of note and they are 11-6. Ohio has played a much tougher schedule and they are 11-3. Oh yeah, and OU beat Rhode Island while Manhattan lost to Rhode Island. Yet, Manhattan is in the 40s and OU is in the 80s. I don't understand why people put so much stock in these computer rankings when the rankings consistently fly in the face of the evidence.

You are looking at the wrong rankings. As of this morning, Manhatten is 64 and Ohio is 57. Manhatten has two bad losses in the last 8 days and their RPI will continue to slide. They would make an interesting BracketBuster opponent for Ohio. They are a road team, I believe, and have played themselves probably out of a game against the top BB home teams.

CollegeRPI.com MAC rankings this a.m. in order of actual MAC div. standings
Quote:
109 Kent St.
57 Ohio
78 Akron
118 Miami-Ohio
117 Buffalo
257 Bowling Green

104 Northern Illinois
176 Western Michigan
192 Ball State
140 Toledo
265 Central Michigan
293 Eastern Michigan
axeme Wrote:
BGFalcons Wrote:Everyone of these RPIs is a POS. For example, compare Ohio's schedule/results to Manhattan. Manhattan hasn't beaten anyone of note and they are 11-6. Ohio has played a much tougher schedule and they are 11-3. Oh yeah, and OU beat Rhode Island while Manhattan lost to Rhode Island. Yet, Manhattan is in the 40s and OU is in the 80s. I don't understand why people put so much stock in these computer rankings when the rankings consistently fly in the face of the evidence.

You are looking at the wrong rankings. As of this morning, Manhatten is 64 and Ohio is 57. Manhatten has two bad losses in the last 8 days and their RPI will continue to slide. They would make an interesting BracketBuster opponent for Ohio. They are a road team, I believe, and have played themselves probably out of a game against the top BB home teams.

CollegeRPI.com MAC rankings this a.m. in order of actual MAC div. standings
Quote:
109 Kent St.
57 Ohio
78 Akron
118 Miami-Ohio
117 Buffalo
257 Bowling Green

104 Northern Illinois
176 Western Michigan
192 Ball State
140 Toledo
265 Central Michigan
293 Eastern Michigan

OK, I must have looked at them before the lastest update. Still, before the lastest update, Manhattan had a higher RPI than OU. And, it was still true at that time that (1) OU had played a tougher schedule and (2) OU had beaten RI, whereas Manhattan had lost to RI, and (3) OU had a better record.

Also, in the lastest ESPN Bracketology (before this week), Manhattan was, I think, a 12 seed while Akron (the presumed MAC rep at the time) was a 14. WTF?
It's still too early to worry about Bracketology or like pages. While they are interesting to read, they are not any indication of where a MAC team will ultimately be seeded.

Despite all the cries that this is a one-bid year for the MAC, I think that either Akron or Ohio can still snag an at-large bid. If either can compile a 15-3 conference record (with no "bad" losses), win their bracket buster, and make the tournament finals, it will be hard to keep them out.
BobcatFan Wrote:It's still too early to worry about Bracketology or like pages. While they are interesting to read, they are not any indication of where a MAC team will ultimately be seeded.

Despite all the cries that this is a one-bid year for the MAC, I think that either Akron or Ohio can still snag an at-large bid. If either can compile a 15-3 conference record (with no "bad" losses), win their bracket buster, and make the tournament finals, it will be hard to keep them out.

good points, but as we all know, those are some pretty big "if's" you're listing there! as a UB fan said in another thread (I think it was zibby), every night in the MAC (especially in the East) is going to be a carnage! lots of blood spilt in the coming weeks!
bobcat_backer Wrote:
mmcincy Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:I just read today that on February 2, the NCAA will post its RPI ratings on its Web site. The ratings will be updated throughout the rest of the season. This should dispel any myths about which RPI is better than another one. I like the disclosure by the NCAA in this instance.

It's February 2.

What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today?
[Image: 1108272028_420016833.gif]

well that's when the NCAA will make its RPI poll public.

It was a quote from the movie Groundhog Day. ;-)
mmcincy Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:
mmcincy Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:
bobcat_backer Wrote:I just read today that on February 2, the NCAA will post its RPI ratings on its Web site. The ratings will be updated throughout the rest of the season. This should dispel any myths about which RPI is better than another one. I like the disclosure by the NCAA in this instance.

It's February 2.

What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today?
[Image: 1108272028_420016833.gif]

well that's when the NCAA will make its RPI poll public.

It was a quote from the movie Groundhog Day. ;-)

oh sorry! i guess i need to get out more! hehehe
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