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MH55 Wrote:You would have to have a pretty vivid imagination to dream up Kent knocking off Temple. .

Remind me to stop defending your basketball program. Thanks.

you guys are f'n idiots... Stupid ass mac fans...

Akron bend over and take it from toledo. western michigan go makeout with central... you are all losers! I have lost all respect for the MAC... F you and your stupid little confrence...

YOU ARE NOTHING .... IT IS A JOKE CONFRENCE ITS A DAMN SHAME OUR STUPID ASS 119TH RANKED FOOTBALL TEAM HAS TO PUT UP WITH YOUR GARBAGE.

Top corner commits to Temple

By Kevin Tatum
Inquirer Staff Writer

The Temple football team has landed one of the top high school players in New Jersey in Anthony Ferla of St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, Bergen County), who has committed to the Owls.

The 5-foot-10, 190-pound Ferla excelled at tailback and defensive back for a St. Joseph squad that claimed its seventh straight sectional championship last fall. The Owls recruited him as a defensive back.

Ferla, who gained 1,444 yards and scored 33 touchdowns as a senior, received even more acclaim for his work on the defensive side of the ball.

A consensus first-team all-state selection as a cornerback, Ferla was named North Jersey player of the year by one newspaper and defensive player of the year by another.

Ferla picked Temple over Kansas.

"I chose Temple because I loved the whole coaching staff," said Ferla, who has been timed at 4.45 seconds in the 40-yard dash. "They told me that I was their number-one recruit. It seemed like they really wanted me. One of my old coaches told me to go with somebody who loves me, not who likes me."

With Ferla's addition, new Temple football coach Al Golden now has 16 players who have said they will make their decisions official on the national signing day of Feb. 1.

As for joining a Temple team that went 0-11 last season and has not had a winning season since 1990, Ferla said: "I have a lot of faith in the coaching staff to turn things around, and I feel like I can help with that."


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There are a lot of very bitter, angry people around here lately.

victory engineer Wrote:you guys are f'n idiots... Stupid a$$ mac fans...

Akron bend over and take it from toledo. western michigan go makeout with central... you are all losers! I have lost all respect for the MAC... F you and your stupid little confrence...

YOU ARE NOTHING .... IT IS A JOKE CONFRENCE ITS A DAMN SHAME OUR STUPID a$$ 119TH RANKED FOOTBALL TEAM HAS TO PUT UP WITH YOUR GARBAGE.

Just an example of the class exhibited at this North Philly INSTITUTION.

BG,
2 questions. Why does a few MAC'ers hate Temple so much when our success will only HELP the MAC? This thread for instance, is Zibby representative of MAC'ers who lay in the weeds and seize an opportunity to jump on Temple after a bad performance?

Also, I enjoy the publicity with your signature. I've noticed you have enlarged the font. Did you do so because you think my opinion is remotely possible or are you looking to further expose me a fool.

Incidentally, TUFB signed John Palumbo, a 6'5" OL who turned Kent down after Temple got involved. Temple has not inked any ***** but we have put together an interesting & talented class in 6 weeks. We are already better.

Zibby - you had to cite to 3 MAC teams to pull together a resume as impressive as this years very bad Temple team. We beat Miami, Bama, and SCarolina this year (and now Xavier - something Miami OH couldn't do).

Historically, we were in the elite 8 in 2001 and '99. We were ranked no. 2 as late as 2000. We have had a winning record for the last 2 plus decades with 17 NCAA appearances.

Sure - we're down - but get off your high horse. You just lost to Toledo and CMU (at home!) - who have a combined record of 11-19.

If you don't win the MAC - you, like us will be in the NIT. But that's the only comparison you can really make between your hoops program and ours.

Shrakkrocket Wrote:

FunkmasterFlash Wrote:If you don't think Temple hoops would be a huge boon for the MAC your an idiot. Pepole let their bittness over the football cloud their judgment of their hoops. Any time you beat Temple pepole know you've beaten a historically excellent program. Hate Chryst for the way the MAC is getting screwed, not Temple for pulling it off.

I gues I'm an idiot. UT is a football schol, not a basketball school. I am very bitter over the football deal because in the end it's going to screw us over one way or another. If they lose it's expected. if they win every single sports commentator's going to be saying that it's because "the MAC is a week conference" taking us many steps back from where we are, where we've been trying to get for years. it's a no-win situation for us and a win-win situation for them. Chryst is an idiot.

I don't know about that... but one thing i think is true, while I think the MAC is a good solid football conference, playing teams like Ball State, Buffalo, Kent State, Eastern Michigan ain't like playing WVU, BC, Va Tech, and UM every year.
I am no fan of the BE or the Old BE. But I think it is just wrong not to expect Temple to be much better in the MAC and don't worry about commentators saying that Temple has been reborn because the MAC is bad. More like Temple now has a Head Coach and a Staff and a University that supports excellence in Football and is committed to beginning a new winning football tradition...

As to Temple Basketball... What College Basketball fan in the MAC wouldn't switch their teams history with ours. Or... maybe better put, whose tradition would you rather have... The same holds for Temple sports fans, especially in football

MH55 Wrote:BG,
2 questions. Why does a few MAC'ers hate Temple so much when our success will only HELP the MAC? This thread for instance, is Zibby representative of MAC'ers who lay in the weeds and seize an opportunity to jump on Temple after a bad performance?

Fair questions. My guess is that Zibby represents an extremity in opinion. I was adamantly against adding Temple and said so in several public forums. Now that the deal is done, it only makes sense to take the "Glass Half Full" view and root for Temple to turn things around. It's a little easier for me, since I live near Philly and there's something in it for me, personally!

MH55 Wrote:Also, I enjoy the publicity with your signature. I've noticed you have enlarged the font. Did you do so because you think my opinion is remotely possible or are you looking to further expose me a fool.

I don't know how the signature got enlarged; it was unintentional. I like the quotes because they're specific and ambitious. Are they possible? Remotely, yes. Realistically, no. But I love to see the enthusiasm of some of the Temple posters here. Most have been realistic - they know the program has sucked for a long time, the realize the MAC was the only real option and they know they're in for an uphill climb. But if you don't come in with an attitude like Golden's (i.e. "What have you done to help us win a MAC Championship?"), why even bother playing?

MH55 Wrote:Incidentally, TUFB signed John Palumbo, a 6'5" OL who turned Kent down after Temple got involved. Temple has not inked any ***** but we have put together an interesting & talented class in 6 weeks. We are already better.

I think Golden's putting together an impressive class given his shortened window and the Owls' recent history. If he can get through the first season with his enthusiasm in place, Temple could well be on its way to respectability.

BG - do you think Temple Football will increase the gate at MAC schools. It appears reasonably clear that Temple Football has brought out the enmity in a lot of MACers. So, I'm thinking Temple might actually be a big road draw with all the MAC Schools gunning to take us out, and put up a big number on us.
In a way, Temple has created an instant rivalry, at least when they are on the road, as everyone (I think) really wants to put it to us.
I'm guessing the Buffalo game could be a season opening sell out for example. Not so much for the theory just stated, but to see who starts out the season with a W, and two new coaches.
But... I'm thinking the Owls might turn out big crowds in their other MAC road games as well...

Owls Head Wrote:BG - do you think Temple Football will increase the gate at MAC schools. It appears reasonably clear that Temple Football has brought out the enmity in a lot of MACers. So, I'm thinking Temple might actually be a big road draw with all the MAC Schools gunning to take us out, and put up a big number on us.
In a way, Temple has created an instant rivalry, at least when they are on the road, as everyone (I think) really wants to put it to us.
I'm guessing the Buffalo game could be a season opening sell out for example. Not so much for the theory just stated, but to see who starts out the season with a W, and two new coaches.
But... I'm thinking the Owls might turn out big crowds in their other MAC road games as well...

No, I don't think Temple will be a big draw @ MAC schools. Don't mistake a few vocal posters here with the general overall mentality of conference fans. Our conference's track record on attendance is not strong, outside of notable exceptions like NIU & Toledo (and, to a certain degree, Ohio last year). Aside from long-standing rivalries (BG/Toledo) and big-name opponents (Pitt @ Ohio), MAC schools just haven't been drawing good crowds.

And I'd be prepared for the Temple-bashers to jump on this next year. When there's a small crowd for a Temple @ Directional Michigan school game in November, folks will fire up numerous threads along the theme of "Is It Too Late To Disinvite Temple?" I'd book that.

On a related note, I suspect there may be a slight bump in Temple's home attendance because of the enthusiasm Golden's hiring brings to the picture, but I wouldn't be surprised if the MAC teams draw very poor numbers from mid-season on. That, too, will bring the Temple-bashers out in full force.

I, for one, intend on getting to The Linc a few times this Fall to check out the Owls.

Is Buffalo set as the home opener? That would be a cool matchup and one that I'd pencil in!

TU will travel to Buffalo in '06.

Hawley Ghost Wrote:TU will travel to Buffalo in '06.

I'm kicking around taking a road trip for this one. Probably about a 7 hr drive... i'm guessing? Might be fun?

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:

Owls Head Wrote:BG - do you think Temple Football will increase the gate at MAC schools. It appears reasonably clear that Temple Football has brought out the enmity in a lot of MACers. So, I'm thinking Temple might actually be a big road draw with all the MAC Schools gunning to take us out, and put up a big number on us.
In a way, Temple has created an instant rivalry, at least when they are on the road, as everyone (I think) really wants to put it to us.
I'm guessing the Buffalo game could be a season opening sell out for example. Not so much for the theory just stated, but to see who starts out the season with a W, and two new coaches.
But... I'm thinking the Owls might turn out big crowds in their other MAC road games as well...

No, I don't think Temple will be a big draw @ MAC schools. Don't mistake a few vocal posters here with the general overall mentality of conference fans. Our conference's track record on attendance is not strong, outside of notable exceptions like NIU & Toledo (and, to a certain degree, Ohio last year). Aside from long-standing rivalries (BG/Toledo) and big-name opponents (Pitt @ Ohio), MAC schools just haven't been drawing good crowds.

And I'd be prepared for the Temple-bashers to jump on this next year. When there's a small crowd for a Temple @ Directional Michigan school game in November, folks will fire up numerous threads along the theme of "Is It Too Late To Disinvite Temple?" I'd book that.

On a related note, I suspect there may be a slight bump in Temple's home attendance because of the enthusiasm Golden's hiring brings to the picture, but I wouldn't be surprised if the MAC teams draw very poor numbers from mid-season on. That, too, will bring the Temple-bashers out in full force.

I, for one, intend on getting to The Linc a few times this Fall to check out the Owls.

Is Buffalo set as the home opener? That would be a cool matchup and one that I'd pencil in!

Got ya, makes sense, the silent majority vs. the vocal, small minority (this board). I appreaciate your response.

O H

zibby Wrote:

Owlscape72 Wrote:The fact that you are ignoring the amount of success our program has had over the past 50+ years

The amount of success the program has had over the past 50+ years means ZERO.

What matters is whether it's going to be any good next year and whether those four measly games are going to help this league get an at-large bid in the tournament.

Owlscape72 Wrote:Fact Temple baseketball sucks right now but it won't forever.

Says who? The Head Goon won't be there for much longer and right now St. Joe's is eating your lunch.

Hey chief, I'm not trying to attack you but you are dead, dead wrong. The more success a program has had in its recent past the more alumni it has that are willing to support a successful program. Therefore the more potential a program has. We were ranked #2 in the entire NCAA no more than 5 years ago. I bet you any conference from here to Beijing would think our history (both recent and not so recent) is quite impressive. Now I'm not here to start a riot, I am after all in the minority of Temple fans that believe we should join the MAC as an all sports member, but I'm willing to take a bashing from fans/alumni of every MAC school with the exception of Buffalo. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:

Owls Head Wrote:BG - do you think Temple Football will increase the gate at MAC schools. It appears reasonably clear that Temple Football has brought out the enmity in a lot of MACers. So, I'm thinking Temple might actually be a big road draw with all the MAC Schools gunning to take us out, and put up a big number on us.
In a way, Temple has created an instant rivalry, at least when they are on the road, as everyone (I think) really wants to put it to us.
I'm guessing the Buffalo game could be a season opening sell out for example. Not so much for the theory just stated, but to see who starts out the season with a W, and two new coaches.
But... I'm thinking the Owls might turn out big crowds in their other MAC road games as well...

No, I don't think Temple will be a big draw @ MAC schools. Don't mistake a few vocal posters here with the general overall mentality of conference fans. Our conference's track record on attendance is not strong, outside of notable exceptions like NIU & Toledo (and, to a certain degree, Ohio last year). Aside from long-standing rivalries (BG/Toledo) and big-name opponents (Pitt @ Ohio), MAC schools just haven't been drawing good crowds.

And I'd be prepared for the Temple-bashers to jump on this next year. When there's a small crowd for a Temple @ Directional Michigan school game in November, folks will fire up numerous threads along the theme of "Is It Too Late To Disinvite Temple?" I'd book that.

On a related note, I suspect there may be a slight bump in Temple's home attendance because of the enthusiasm Golden's hiring brings to the picture, but I wouldn't be surprised if the MAC teams draw very poor numbers from mid-season on. That, too, will bring the Temple-bashers out in full force.

I, for one, intend on getting to The Linc a few times this Fall to check out the Owls.

Is Buffalo set as the home opener? That would be a cool matchup and one that I'd pencil in!

normally I agree with you on most things but I'm going to have to call bs on this one. are you really saying that the majority of people want Temple? Most I've talked to don't want them but yet we're the vocal minority? I hate that term, if it was true the real majority would be able to come out in force to back up the statements.

As for whether Temple would cause attendance to rise during MAC home games. I know I won't be going to any Temple games that might be nearby. Even if they played at UT I'm unsure if I'd go. Money and attendance speaks volumes, and it seems the MAC fans weren't taken into account at all during this decision so I'll make a statement one way or another, albeit a silent statement.

I made Delaware to Buffalo in 5hrs.

templefootballfan Wrote:I made Delaware to Buffalo in 5hrs.

Get out... Really? what was your trip tic?

Shrakkrocket Wrote:

BGSUalum1987 Wrote:

Owls Head Wrote:BG - do you think Temple Football will increase the gate at MAC schools. It appears reasonably clear that Temple Football has brought out the enmity in a lot of MACers. So, I'm thinking Temple might actually be a big road draw with all the MAC Schools gunning to take us out, and put up a big number on us.
In a way, Temple has created an instant rivalry, at least when they are on the road, as everyone (I think) really wants to put it to us.
I'm guessing the Buffalo game could be a season opening sell out for example. Not so much for the theory just stated, but to see who starts out the season with a W, and two new coaches.
But... I'm thinking the Owls might turn out big crowds in their other MAC road games as well...

No, I don't think Temple will be a big draw @ MAC schools. Don't mistake a few vocal posters here with the general overall mentality of conference fans. Our conference's track record on attendance is not strong, outside of notable exceptions like NIU & Toledo (and, to a certain degree, Ohio last year). Aside from long-standing rivalries (BG/Toledo) and big-name opponents (Pitt @ Ohio), MAC schools just haven't been drawing good crowds.

And I'd be prepared for the Temple-bashers to jump on this next year. When there's a small crowd for a Temple @ Directional Michigan school game in November, folks will fire up numerous threads along the theme of "Is It Too Late To Disinvite Temple?" I'd book that.

On a related note, I suspect there may be a slight bump in Temple's home attendance because of the enthusiasm Golden's hiring brings to the picture, but I wouldn't be surprised if the MAC teams draw very poor numbers from mid-season on. That, too, will bring the Temple-bashers out in full force.

I, for one, intend on getting to The Linc a few times this Fall to check out the Owls.

Is Buffalo set as the home opener? That would be a cool matchup and one that I'd pencil in!

normally I agree with you on most things but I'm going to have to call bs on this one. are you really saying that the majority of people want Temple? Most I've talked to don't want them but yet we're the vocal minority? I hate that term, if it was true the real majority would be able to come out in force to back up the statements.

As for whether Temple would cause attendance to rise during MAC home games. I know I won't be going to any Temple games that might be nearby. Even if they played at UT I'm unsure if I'd go. Money and attendance speaks volumes, and it seems the MAC fans weren't taken into account at all during this decision so I'll make a statement one way or another, albeit a silent statement.

My thought was that if SO many MAC fans hated Temple (kinda like Philly Fans hate the Cowboys) they would come out in big numbers when Temple was in town so they could scream and yell and cheer and they would want to knock the snoot out of the Owls.
But I think what BG was saying was most MAC fans don't care period! The folks who post on this board should not be construed as or represent how most MAC people feel. I think he means most MAC people don't care so they wouldn't be coming to the game any which way (when Temple was in town). I think that is it more of less...
And the flip side he thinks most Temple people don't care either so basically no one is going to any games except in these cases:

NIU & Toledo (and, to a certain degree, Ohio last year). Aside from long-standing rivalries (BG/Toledo) and big-name opponents (Pitt @ Ohio), MAC schools just haven't been drawing good crowds.

Shrakkrocket Wrote:normally I agree with you on most things but I'm going to have to call bs on this one. are you really saying that the majority of people want Temple? Most I've talked to don't want them but yet we're the vocal minority?

Shrakk: To clarify, I don't think the majority want Temple; the majority are mostly apathetic about it. If you pushed them for an opinion, they'd say they were against adding Temple, but I don't think if you asked that question across a broad base of MAC fans you'd encounter the intense respond you find here. Most folks, I'd wager, would shake their heads and say, "bad move" then forget about it.

Does that make sense?

Shrakkrocket Wrote:As for whether Temple would cause attendance to rise during MAC home games. I know I won't be going to any Temple games that might be nearby. Even if they played at UT I'm unsure if I'd go. Money and attendance speaks volumes, and it seems the MAC fans weren't taken into account at all during this decision so I'll make a statement one way or another, albeit a silent statement.

I'll make make my way to some Temple games, but there's a geographic bias in my favor. ;-)