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A blogger from the Akron area is writing on his site of possible recruiting violations by OU in the Bubba Walther transfer. :shhh: http://blogs.ohio.com/rasor/2006/01/more_on_bubba.html

If this is true things could get interesting. 05-stirthepot
That would make things interesting.

How many bad things could he say about Dambrot? He seems like a good players coach, and a good guy..
I can't stand Akron but this Walther kid seems like a punk. Yea i'm sure OU would committ major violations to recruit this one-dimensional, skinny as a rail player? He can't and probably won't start at OU. The first bit of competition comes his way with Dials and Linhart and his first reaction it to transfer?
Key part of this link:
Quote:A Zips perspective from a University of Akron student, fan and sports journalist

I'll believe it when I see it
What total garbage. Unless you can prove something, then shut up. Akron released him from his scholarship. This idiot is just a punk journalist that is trying to stir up something that isn't there. Akron is nothing but a glorified community college.The kid must have wanted a better college experience than that. Schools have compliance directors that make sure everything is proper. Akron can whine all they want, but they were the ones who let this kid out of his scholarship.
OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:What total garbage. Unless you can prove something, then shut up. Akron released him from his scholarship. This idiot is just a punk journalist that is trying to stir up something that isn't their. Akron is nothing but a glorified community college.The kid must have wanted a better college experience than that. Schools have compliance directors that make sure everything is proper. Akron can whine all they want, but they were the ones who let this kid out of his scholarship.

They don't call the University of Akron "Hilltop High" for nothing! lmfao
Oh my. This is definitely very interesting. I wonder what sort of punishment the NCAA would hand out for violations like that? It will certainly spice things up.

04-jawdrop
I will wait until I hear something from a reliable source.
Tim O'Shea didn't even talk to Walther until after Bubba had enrolled for classes at OU. There weren't any violations.
No way were they any violations on Ohio's part.

Like you said, Coach O'Shea didn't even make contact with Walther until he enrolled.

This story, much like Akron, is GARBAGE!
It seems OU fans are getting very defensive. Akron did not let Bubba out of his scholarship. NCAA rules dictate that a student-athlete must sit for one academic year. The Zips have no say as to letting someone out of a scholarship. Bubba decided to leave in hopes of finding more playing time. I don't know if there is more to the story than that, but an article is coming out on Tuesday in the Buchtelite that might shed more light.

Claiming there were violations with no support is like claiming Tim O'Shea did not speak to Bubba. No one on this board know the real answer to these accusations. Wait until the articles and quotes come out before making dumb statements.
I can understand the Ohio fans' bitterness since they're having to recruit from the end of Akron's bench. But breaking NCAA rules to do it, that's just sad.
zipsfan Wrote:The Zips have no say as to letting someone out of a scholarship.

What do you mean they have no say in letting someone out of a scholarship? They have to release them before he can get a scholarship somewhere else. Dambrot is not releasing Walther which means he'll have to pay for his first year at OU then will be eligible for a scholarship in Jan 07.
GoCats Wrote:
zipsfan Wrote:The Zips have no say as to letting someone out of a scholarship.

What do you mean they have no say in letting someone out of a scholarship? They have to release them before he can get a scholarship somewhere else. Dambrot is not releasing Walther which means he'll have to pay for his first year at OU then will be eligible for a scholarship in Jan 07.

zipsfan....get the facts before you spew.....

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/13681538.htm
ZippyRulz Wrote:I can understand the Ohio fans' bitterness since they're having to recruit from the end of Akron's bench. But breaking NCAA rules to do it, that's just sad.

What rules were broken? Lay our your facts....
ZippyRulz Wrote:I can understand the Ohio fans' bitterness since they're having to recruit from the end of Akron's bench. But breaking NCAA rules to do it, that's just sad.

what's sad is that anyone with half a brain would believe this rubbish. this is nothing more than resentment on the part of Zips fans who can't stomach the fact that one of their own left Akron in favor of a better team and better school. Let him go, guys. If he's as bad as you say, you should be glad to see him go.
This is some Akron fan's web site making false claims about another school. The kid said he didn't like the dorms or housing and that was his reason to leave Akron. The playing time thing might have had a small impact. Its clear that he regretted his decision to go to Akron. Walther is from southern Ohio and he can play some bb. Its shouldn't have shocked Akron when he decided to attend Ohio. He's too good for Wright State and he isn't good enough for UC or Ohio State. Miami or OU were his only options.
OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:Miami or OU were his only options.

Yeah, but I don't believe that Charlie Coles was illegally recruiting him from Akron's bench, so Ohio U was probably his only option. lmfao

Just kidding.

But this is interesting:

Quote:Dambrot said he has never not released a player's scholarship in eight years as a head coach, but the circumstances surrounding the transfer warranted it this time. Dambrot said he would not go into details about the decision.
``I am fine with him transferring,'' Dambrot said. ``If a guy is not happy, he should transfer. That's all I want to say.''

Coaches do not have to allow the player out of the scholarship and there could be a number of reasons that they choose not to. In this case, here are a couple of possible reasons:

1.) The intended school of transfer is another MAC team
2.) The intended school of transfer is another MAC team and same division
3.) Something else happened that the Akron coach has not experience before

FWIW, Amstutz wouldn't allow Astin Martin out of his scholarship to transfer to WMU, but was happy to let him out to go to Grand Valley State
We didn't need to recruit him at all. Bubba lit us up and he said he enjoyed playing in the Convo. I bet. So did Romeo Travis. Too bad he wasn't the one with the crappy dorm and wanted out. The way Whitney Davis is playing, Bubba gonna have to wait a long time for an opening at two guard.
Ok, from an Akron fan who isn't gonna be a pisser moaner and isn't going to try to start controversy here. (I know that may surprise some Kent fans)

-I respect the author of the blog and what he does. That said the actual article will be appearing in the Buchtelite which is a campus newspaper. I have found across the board that if you want to find a good example of a bad newspaper check out your local colleges campus newspaper. It is usally a good indication.

-Bubba Walther is a stud 3 point shooter which is fine if you can afford to have the other 4 guys on your court pick up the slack for everything he can't do. Not trying to bash the guy but this is an opinion of him that many zips fans have shared for most of his tenure in Akron.

-I've never been to OU, quite frankly I don't really care to go. Not my style of University. I enjoy city life (I enjoy it outside the city too, just not as much) and I feel like Akron is the place for me to spend my time at (I am also a student at Akron). Nothing against OU, I will not stoop to the level of calling their campus derogatory names or whatnot. I reserve that kind of stuff for Kent.

-If Bubba Walther doesn't like the city life and doesn't like Akron then thats his decision. Not mine. If, IF, there are complications or extenuating circumstances regarding his transfer then they should be looked into by the MAC and the NCAA. Again, IF there are such complications and IF the party's involved chose to sweep it under a rug then all it says is that OU and Akron are no better than Marshall or Ohio State and that the MAC as a conference is no better than the Big 10 when it comes to addressing such issues.

Thats about all I have to say.
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