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Here is a good question to get arguments going.

Everyone should rank the stadiums within their conference. Go on a scale you want (loudest, prettiest, most accessible, playing surface, attendance, etc.)

Try and stick to stadiums that you have been too.

(Not that you need a starter, but I am doing this for every conference, and it is interesting to see what you guys think.)

OK, we'll assume you're not supposed to vote for your own team's stadium - or we'll just be counting how popular a school's team is on the board.

So, not counting CMU:

1. Toledo Glass Bowl: She's downright purdy
2. WMU's "Where's Waldo" Stadium: It rocks for CMU/WMU
3. EMU's very roomy ('cause no one's there) Rynearson Stadium: And it's really clean 'cause no one's there to litter it up, either.
4. The Pontiac Silverdome: It's cold, drafty and ugly, but one day a year, its one of ours - ok, not any more, but let's be nostalgic, ok!
5. BGSU's cement fortress on the plains: There could not exist a less attractive stadium than that one.

hmm - that's all I've seen of the MAC (I should get out more).

I'd go see a MAC-east stadium (some even numbered year) for the MACC if we ever get to play in one!

This year I'm definately going to DeKalb to watch the doggies get upset....I just haven't decided which week I should go..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

I think you are too hard on Doyt Perry Stadium. The biggest knock I have on the place are the benches, which seem mostly original construction and, frankly, are starting to come apart.

But the sight lines are excellent and it is in an extremely good location. The fact that it looms on the horizon is inevitable; one can only build a few feet down before hitting pure rock in Bowling Green. And, as we know, there are no natural hills to use to our advantage.

Setting aside Perry Stadium, which I believe to be at least average for this league, I'd rank 'em this way:

1. Glass Bowl. It is very attractive. The luxury box area is totally modern, which is a great contrast to the brick and ivy and what-not in this neighborhood. It isn't quite big enough, of course.

2. Rubber Bowl. Something needs to be done about the lights on those awful wooden poles in front of everyone. But it is a cool stadium, with lots of real seats and built into a hill the way it is.

3. UB Stadium. In many ways, this is the one of the league's best stadiums. Everything is almost brand new. They have luxury boxes with closed circuit television, and the sidelines are all chairs. The problem: The comfy sideline seating areas are not all that big. To get the place up to 30,000 seats, they had to build this massive set of bleachers in one of the end zones. It looks a little silly.

4. Dix Stadium. This is essential Perry Stadium, but with the seats mostly piled on one side. For that reason, Perry Stadium is better than Dix in my opinion.

5. Ball State Stadium. I haven't seen it in years. Maybe it is better now. But it was awful when I saw it.

I haven't personally seen the others.

I've only been to a few.
The Glass Bowl is very attractive and I like the attmosphere there. Of course UCF was the homecoming opponent when we played there.

The Rubber Bowl was real nice also. A bit old and run down, but the feel of the stadium was pretty good. Except for those light poles.

Kent State's field was the pits. I really don't think I can say very much about it that I liked. Steel stands, at least for the visitors, and a God awful colored rug. It just doesn't surprise me that the attendance is so horrible.

I personnaly think that the Citrus Bowl, while old, is a beautiful stadium. I've seen some better, like at Auburn, FSU and Alabama. But it's better than anything I've seen so far in the MAC and far better than the Swamp up in Gainsville.

Other than Waldo stadium I have only been to two other MAC stadiums and plan to add at least one more to that this year, probably BGSU. Between CMU and Toledo I would give Toledo the slight edge over CMU. The Press Box at UT was very impressive and I liked that they actually had a screen where you could watch the replays. I just wish they could have had a full house for the UT-WMU game last year. It was small and on the visitors side we were behind the light poles. At CMU the crowd got into the game, but I guess anyone would if their 34 point underdog was pulling out the win. I probably would have been a little more impressed if it were a full bowl, but a nice stadium none the less. For any UT, NIU or if they exist EMU fans making the trip to Waldo this year I think you will be in awe as much as we are here of our new practice facility, the Donald J. Seeleye Center at the East Endzone. [Image: Seeyle12.jpg]

The new facility is being added to the left side of the picture above. <a href="http://www.kalleward.com/seelyefrout.html" target="_blank">Seelye Center webcam</a>

[ July 11, 2002, 08:27 AM: Message edited by: klordway ]

Since we can't name our own stadiums, I'll just leave the #1 blank...it'd be foolish to name any other stadium there. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

1.
2. Where's Waldo
3. EMU's empty stadium
4. Rubber Bowl
5. Marshall
6. OU
7. Miami (half of it is great)

BG's is horrible. Although, by being horrible, it fits in with the rest of the architecture.

Other than MUg (only counting stadiums I've been to):

1. Ass Bowl
2. Waldo (although the press box has too many obstructed views of the field, they have the best pre-game feed in the conference.)
3. MU-other: Could shoot to number one if they would rip down the bleachers and put in permanent stands. Great setting.
4. Ballsy-PA was not good when I was there last, but there have been improvements I think.
5. BUGSY-I agree with Odd.
6. Rubber Bowl-As I go to more MAC stadiums, this will continue to fall on the list. The number of problems with this stadium would make this string entirely too long. To their credit, however, they have the best handicap accessibility of any conference stadium I have been to. They got us as close as possible and then took my dad on a golf cart to the front door. (Ballsy is the worst I experienced on this aspect. We had to park pretty far away and they wouldn't even let me get close to drop my dad off first.)

1.Ohio, Peden Stadium: The holiest of holies. The centerpiece of the Athens.

2.Ohio, Peden Stadium: Home of the first MAC Football team ever to finish in the top 25 (Ohio Bobcats of 1968).

3.Ohio, Peden Stadium: The best band in the history of Music, the Ohio University Marching 110 sits on Hunter Green Chairs in the North Endzone.

4.Ohio, Peden Stadium: The Wrigley field of division 1-A. Fine brickwork throughout the stadium.

5.Ohio, Peden Stadium: The exterior of the tower has the date "1804". Oldest school in the upper Midwest.

6.Ohio, Peden Stadium: A 24k stadium, with 34k standing room only capacity, soon to be 30k/40k with the addition of the deck.

7.Ohio, Peden Stadium: Built in 1929, before the exsistance of BG and Kent.

8.Ohio, Peden Stadium: Original seating capacity of 12k, and originally located south of the Hocking River.

9.Ohio, Peden Stadium: Now located North of the Hocking River. Peden didn't move, the Hocking did.

10.Ohio, Peden Stadium: Named after Don C. Peden, one of the founders of the MAC.

KC

<blockquote>quote:<hr />2.Ohio, Peden Stadium: Home of the first MAC Football team ever to finish in the top 25 (Ohio Bobcats of 1968).<hr /></blockquote>Nope. Miami finished ranked in 1955.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />7.Ohio, Peden Stadium: Built in 1929, before the exsistance of BG and Kent.<hr /></blockquote>Nope. Both schools were created by an act of the state legislature in 1910. I believe classes finally got rolling in Bowling Green in 1914.

I'm not going to argue that Peden Stadium is a bad place. Sounds great. I haven't seen it, though.

I totally forgot about Peed-In. It would probably actually come in #3 on my list (maybe even number #2, I've never been in the press-box). Nice upgrade last year (we were there for the ISU debacle.)

O.K Here Goes,,,

The nicest I have ever seen in the MAC is Peden (sp?)in Athens. The whole campus is beautiful.

Number two would have to be the rubber bowl. I hate the lights, but I have been there when the place is filled over capacity (high school playoff)and it rocks.

Third, and last, is my alma maters field. Dix stadium is awful. They ran the turf up the ramps to the locker rooms, and the visiting bleachers look like they are about to fall over. There is no view because it sits about a mile off campus, and if you are a freshman at the university, you hate it because you have to park there.

They did however put a beer garden in the parking lot. I think we are one of the few schools to do that in the MAC.

It would have to be Peden stadium. I was there last year, and thought it was great. The second best in the west IMO is WMU. I haven't been to BSU or NIU lately so they may have improved.

I will only rate stadiums I have personally been to, (which is all of them!) although I haven't been to Peden since the latest renovations (but since I've seen pictures I'll pretend I have):

1) Glass Bowl: Love that press/luxury box.....very impressive. The stadium feels much larger than its capacity.
2) WMU: Like the hillside and the setting alot.
3) Buffalo: Been there a number of times, and it's a surprisingly nice stadium....has a nice upper deck and the stadium appears larger than its stated capacity.....only negative is the track so the stands are pretty far back.
4) Marshall: Nice symetrical design and overall probably the most impressive MAC stadium, along with the Glass Bowl.
5) CMU: A nice horseshoe design, albiet "smallish". The new press box and additional seating makes this very nice, although the setting is not that great. Rowdy fans when the Chips are good.
6) OU: Nice setting, and I like the design and layout. Bigger is not always better.
7). BSU: Pretty nice now with the new endzone/conditioning center and the renovated stands......good tailgating, too. Will move up the list once renovations are complete.
8) NIU: Really friendly fans there........DeKalb's not much to "write home about", but I liked the place (but it was ccccoold when I was there last!)
9) EMU: It's nice looking, but too far from the field due to the track.
10) BG: Once arguably the MAC's best now needs a face-lift. Still, it's a nice design that was made to be expanded if necessary. Hard to say much for the setting there right by ol' I-75.
11) Rubber Bowl: Aging but looks decent from afar.....
12) Dix: Not too hot......looks more like bleachers than a stadium.

I have been to every MAC stadium, and if I had to rate my own (Miami's Yager), I'd probably put it around 6th....great setting but the away side needs to be replaced with larger stands.

[ July 11, 2002, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: exCincy Kid ]

Are we talking about the same Glass Bowl that use blue K-Mart tarp as a structural material?

That place was a dump. I've been to Miami, Ohio, and Toledo's stadium, and I can honestly say that all of them pale in comparison to Marshall's stadium. Ohio and Miami have much better surroundings, but as far as the stadium itself is concerned, Marshall takes this category hands down. It's not even debatable.

Toledo's Glass Bowl and Miami's Yager Stadium were OK. Toledo put on a fine pregame fireworks show. I saw a Miami couple having sex in the woods at Yager Stadium after last year's game. I guess they wee consoling each other after a tough loss. So it will always remain a favorite. Kent State's Dix Stadium is a dump. The place is a death trap. It looks like one careless match could incinerate that whole pile of sticks they call a stadium. The press box looks like somebody parked a mobile home on the top row.

By the way, here's my rankings.

1. Marshall Stadium
2. Yager Stadium
3. Glass Bowl
4. Peden Stadium
5. Waldo Stadium
6. Citrus Bowl
7. Doyt Perry Stadium
8. Kelly-Shorts Stadium
9. UB Stadium
10. Rynearson Stadium
11. Ball State Stadium
12. Rubber Bowl
13. Dix Stadium

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by murox:
Are we talking about the same Glass Bowl that use blue K-Mart tarp as a structural material?

That place was a dump. I've been to Miami, Ohio, and Toledo's stadium, and I can honestly say that all of them pale in comparison to Marshall's stadium. Ohio and Miami have much better surroundings, but as far as the stadium itself is concerned, Marshall takes this category hands down. It's not even debatable.<hr /></blockquote>Not with someone of limited intellect it's not.

1. No contest here folks - Marshall Stadium
2. WMU - It does rock. Great atmosphere
3. Miami - Always have a good time there although the crowd isn't as rowdy as WMU and Toledo.
4. Toledo - would have been higher on my list, but having sat on the visitor's side (duh) couldn't get over (as I've mentioned on several occasions)those light poles in the line of vision!! Thought the architechture was cool, but those light poles have got to go!
5. Peden - improvements were just that.
6. CMU - I haven't been since the new stadium was built (plan to attend this year), so I'm elevating their standing based on the fact I know they have to be better.
7. BGSU - eh
8. Eastern - nice stadium - no people. Need people to make an event.
9. Buffalo - again, no people and some of the seats are too far from the field.

I haven't attended games in Muncie, NIU, Kent or Akron.

MAC Stadiums Top Five: <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />

1) Kelly/Shorts Stadium (CMU) <img border="0" alt="[Bow]" title="" src="graemlins/bow.gif" /> - Fantastic gameday atmosphere with all the tailgating and the finest marching band in the MAC. The new press box and Indoor Athletic Complex really adds prestige to the stadium.

2) Waldo Stadium (WMU) - Great place to watch a game. Absolutely electric when playing CMU. WMU also has a very nice band and the new Seelye Athletic Center which, when completed, will rank second only to CMU's IAC.

3) Glass Bowl (U-T) - Beautiful new pressbox (luxury suites) makes the historic Glass Bowl that much better. It's too bad this stadium doesn't seat more than 26,000+ though.

4) Marshall Stadium - Never been there but CMU A.D. Herb Deromedi says it's a first rate facility.

5) Doyt Perry Stadium (BGSU) - I attended the 1994 MAC Title Game in which CMU's fat punter... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> well, you BG fans know how it ends. Anyway, I think it has nice sight lines and very easy access off I-75.

FIRE UP CHIPS! <img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" />

All though others will disregard thier own stadium.... I can't.....but then again, much of a stadium's alure is atmosphere and I have only experienced a couple. Yet, I'll rank my top five as :

1) UCF's Dungeon (aka-Citrus Bowl)- tailgating rules, sightlines great, Boxes great, field is impeccable and we sell beer at the stadium during the game. <img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" />
2) Glass Bowl- only bad comment is: If they don't change that polyester carpet soon, they can be Idaho.
3) Waldo- nothing bad to say about this venue.
4) MUg- Only saw it and not during game day, I'm sure it is much more impressive with all the mugs running around <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

5) All others......Please understand we are spoiled will the stadium we have. It's on national TV 2-3 times a year and in major motion pictures (aka Waterboy, Replacements, "Coach" on tv)
That being said, there is a huge push to build an on campus stadium and get the campus feel you guys experience and luv.

Just my two cents <img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" />
Clay

I have not ever been to Marshall, Buffalo or UCF’s stadiums, so I will refrain from ranking them. Here’s my take.

1) Glass Bowl – It really is a beautiful facility.
2) Waldo Stadium – WMU has done a great job with this facility and the fans are great.
3) Kelly/Shorts – Like WMU, CMU has done a great job with their upgrades.
4) Peden Stadium- The band is the best and fans are fun. Upgrades last year were done very well.
5) Rynearson Stadium – Old Rynearson was a joke. This is now a quality facility that needs more fan support.
6) Yager – I love the home side. Building up the visitors side, one of the end zone areas, and making a “cradle of coaches” monument in the other end zone would be a dynamite idea.
7) Huskie Stadium – It was very windy both times I was there, but I did like it.
8) Rubber Bowl – Akron needs an on campus facility, but that is not going to happen. If some renovations ever take place here, the facelift could make this a charming facility with a lot of character.
9) Doyt-Perry – I’m not listing them here because they are our biggest rival, I truly hate this wind tunnel of a stadium. Leaving the parking lot is always an event.
10) Dix Stadium – its no wonder KSU has so few fans. Far away from campus and not very attractive.
11) Ball State Stadium – I f they ever do the updates posted on their official site this will become a sweet stadium.

The worst stadiums I have ever been to are:
1) The Vet! (Phila.)
2) Old Riverfront Stadium (Cincy)
3) Old Pitt Stadium (Panthers)
4) Michigan Stadium (How do you cram 110K in a facility that should hold 80K? I went to a chiropractor for six months after an OSU/UM game. Every time you stand up you lose your dog gone seat!

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