07-26-2002, 05:51 PM
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07-26-2002, 05:51 PM
07-30-2002, 05:15 PM
Im praying for a 7th place finish and a purging of the coaches after the finale.
07-31-2002, 02:50 AM
Unfortunately, you may not have to pray that diligently....Hope I'm wrong.
07-31-2002, 07:36 AM
The thing I don't understand is, how did we win before Knorr? Was the coaching really that much better? Were the recruits that much stronger? I don't know the first but I thought the recruiting classes were pretty average. So maybe it was the coaching.
In that case, fire Knorr now and give someone else a chance to screw up this season. And, please, Dear God, get rid of the option! It is boring for the fans and makes for easy to predict finishes. At least with an all out air game you have a chance for the late game surprise, but live by the option, die by the option.
One last point, I haven't followed my first alma mater too closely over the past several years, but I have seen Dontrell play and really feel he should be moved out of the QB role. My arm is better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />
In that case, fire Knorr now and give someone else a chance to screw up this season. And, please, Dear God, get rid of the option! It is boring for the fans and makes for easy to predict finishes. At least with an all out air game you have a chance for the late game surprise, but live by the option, die by the option.
One last point, I haven't followed my first alma mater too closely over the past several years, but I have seen Dontrell play and really feel he should be moved out of the QB role. My arm is better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />
07-31-2002, 08:27 AM
While I don't think he's a football genius, I don't entirely blame coach Knorr for last year's debacle. His biggest mistake last year was the hiring of the WRONG defensive coordinator. This guy was just fired from Illinois and figured to bring in a conventional 3-4 defense. The offense got lost in the defense's colossal failures and everyone gave up. We can definitely recover, and might be that much more dangerous with something to prove.
There were some Grobe teams that started very poorly but recovered for decent finishes and solid MAC records, whereas last years coaching staff, (and injuries, no doubt) let the early season heartbreakers snowball into what the good people of Buffalo witnessed. <img border="0" alt="[Puke]" title="" src="graemlins/puke.gif" />
Frankly, I hate all the passing and love to watch a well-executed option. To me, all that passing is canned ham. Too convenient, and quite boring. It's almost like cheating. <img border="0" alt="[snore]" title="" src="graemlins/snore.gif" /> I think it's more demoralizing to a defense to take them 5 yards at a time, when they know they can't stop you. Jackson may not have a great arm, but I've seen him do some amazing things with his feet and pitching the ball. The guy is fun as hell to watch when he's on.
There were some Grobe teams that started very poorly but recovered for decent finishes and solid MAC records, whereas last years coaching staff, (and injuries, no doubt) let the early season heartbreakers snowball into what the good people of Buffalo witnessed. <img border="0" alt="[Puke]" title="" src="graemlins/puke.gif" />
Frankly, I hate all the passing and love to watch a well-executed option. To me, all that passing is canned ham. Too convenient, and quite boring. It's almost like cheating. <img border="0" alt="[snore]" title="" src="graemlins/snore.gif" /> I think it's more demoralizing to a defense to take them 5 yards at a time, when they know they can't stop you. Jackson may not have a great arm, but I've seen him do some amazing things with his feet and pitching the ball. The guy is fun as hell to watch when he's on.
07-31-2002, 10:13 PM
RG,
I tend to agree with you...I like to see smashmouth football along with the passing game. I really like Urban Meyer's approach at BG..."we will pass the ball but we also want a 1,200 yd rusher"...And with a QB like Josh Harris, BG will be a very dangerous offense.
As far as cheating with the passing game, I guess its comes down to however you can score, do it. A solid ground attack has advantanges too...if ya have a 7 pt lead and can gain first downs and run out the clock, that is demoralizing to an opposing defense...like there ain't a damn thing they can do to stop you. However, incomplete passes can stop you and stop the clock.
The option is still a thing of beauty when executed properly and Grobe's teams did it very well...as for Knorr, we'll see what he comes up with. GO BG!
I tend to agree with you...I like to see smashmouth football along with the passing game. I really like Urban Meyer's approach at BG..."we will pass the ball but we also want a 1,200 yd rusher"...And with a QB like Josh Harris, BG will be a very dangerous offense.
As far as cheating with the passing game, I guess its comes down to however you can score, do it. A solid ground attack has advantanges too...if ya have a 7 pt lead and can gain first downs and run out the clock, that is demoralizing to an opposing defense...like there ain't a damn thing they can do to stop you. However, incomplete passes can stop you and stop the clock.
The option is still a thing of beauty when executed properly and Grobe's teams did it very well...as for Knorr, we'll see what he comes up with. GO BG!
08-01-2002, 01:59 AM
EKnight, agreed that Dontrell doesn't have much of an arm. Met him once and if he's more than 5'9" and 170 them I'm an NFL All-Pro. His size limits his passing in that he has a difficult time seeing over the o and d linemen. Also, our o-linemen appear to have no knowledge at all re pass blocking--pitiful. That said, Dontrell Jackson is a tremendous football player. Incredibly quick feet. He's not that fast, but he has dynamic feet. Take a look at the number of running plays (the option attack..pitches) that DJ's run over his career and look at the incredibly few turnovers that DJ's had/created. OUr option is a thing of beauty--awesome--when it's rolling. I refuse to believe anyone could see it in action and find it boring!!! I am 100% confident that Nebraska would be mighty pleased to have DJ running its option attack. He is that good at the option.
Knorr. Sorry, folks. But as much as Grobe was a force in turning around a program that had 17 wins in the 10 years before he was hired (1.7 per year), well Knorr had one win last year. I hold him responsible. We had about 16 returning starters PLUS the All-American punter and a fine returning placekicker--from a 7-4 (right?) team that killed Marshall in the season finale. One win? That's ridiculous. That's worse than the pre-Grobe horrors. (One is less than 1.7) We should have won the MAC and played in a bowl game last year. I hope Knorr turns it around in a big, big, big way. But....
Knorr. Sorry, folks. But as much as Grobe was a force in turning around a program that had 17 wins in the 10 years before he was hired (1.7 per year), well Knorr had one win last year. I hold him responsible. We had about 16 returning starters PLUS the All-American punter and a fine returning placekicker--from a 7-4 (right?) team that killed Marshall in the season finale. One win? That's ridiculous. That's worse than the pre-Grobe horrors. (One is less than 1.7) We should have won the MAC and played in a bowl game last year. I hope Knorr turns it around in a big, big, big way. But....
08-01-2002, 07:34 AM
First let me say that I don't like a pure passing team. I grew up with the Steelers in Pittsburgh and appreciate smash mouth football as much as the next guy. What some people forget is that Bradshaw could throw a bomb when he needed to spread the defense out.
To all of you saying that the option is a thing of beauty when run properly, I say that any offence is a thing a of beauty when run properly. However, when the option is not run properly (or better yet, completely figured out by the D), it is embarassing whether it was Nebraska last year in their losses or OU.
My last point is that I said that Dontrell should be moved to another position like RB and OU should get a bona fide QB who at least presents the threat of a downfield pass. To say that Dontrell can run an option after going 1-10 is a hard pill to swallow. Take the pressure off the kid and let him run ONLY.
To all of you saying that the option is a thing of beauty when run properly, I say that any offence is a thing a of beauty when run properly. However, when the option is not run properly (or better yet, completely figured out by the D), it is embarassing whether it was Nebraska last year in their losses or OU.
My last point is that I said that Dontrell should be moved to another position like RB and OU should get a bona fide QB who at least presents the threat of a downfield pass. To say that Dontrell can run an option after going 1-10 is a hard pill to swallow. Take the pressure off the kid and let him run ONLY.
08-01-2002, 10:20 AM
It is going to be another long season boys. You can't win a MAC title running the Triple Floption offense. What happened in 97? We went to Marshall and played for a east division title and were shut out 27-0. They stuffed that option and Randy Moss threw a ball into the Mcdonalds parking lot after he scorched are pathetic pass defense. There hasn't been any improvement since. Kareem Wilson for four years as a starter and now the Dontrel Jackson era. Neither are championship quality. Kareem was better because although he couldn't throw at least he could run. Dontrel throws a little bit better but he can't carry Kareems jock when it comes to running with the pigskin. Grobe finished with a .500 record in his years at OU and everyone including "Joe Billy Bobcat" Monroe worship the guy. What did he do? NO MAC titles and he left us a JV coach from the Air Force Academy who will never get the job done. How do you come back from a two touchdown deficit Monroe with 5 minutes to play? Running the triple floption? Get a clue pal. If you think Nebraska would love to have Dontrel running their option attack your clueless. We need to clean house and bring in someone who has an offensive mind, some head coaching experience and can recruit D1 players. I am sick of this nickel and dime crap. I look for this team to go 3-9 or 4-8 at best, but wouldn't be surprised if it was worse. 3ball
08-01-2002, 05:24 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:26 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:28 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:30 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:36 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:37 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:38 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:43 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-01-2002, 05:56 PM
3Ball is right. Grobe failed in Athens. He promised a MAC championship when he came, and it didnt happen. The option could of won a championship 20 years ago in the MAC, but those days are long gone. We should of tried the floption years ago before we could get 1-A talent. Now its a different story, better school, better facilities, and we can attract a solid 1-A passing QB.
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
Some of the bobcatattackers want to get starry-eyed over the thought of "7-5" First of all 7-5 doesnt mean anything for this program with regards to attendance or recruiting. Being a non-BCS school, if we don't win the division or the MAC Championship, we may as well be 1-10.
Secondly, it doesnt matter how good the Ohio Bobcats are on the field because the glass ceiling for this program running the option is 8 wins. We could of won 2 or 3 MAC titles under grobe with a modern offense. And if we did that, our football program would be much further along (e.g. National TV appearances, coverage, recruiting, attendance) than it is today.
I think the goal in Athens should be to become a yearly top 25 team, with occasional top 10 runs. A game like Pitt should be IN THE BAG. We should be looking ahead to Florida, as a tossup. Settling for anything less is an acceptance of medicority.
KC
08-02-2002, 02:32 AM
...proving that repeated stupidity is greater than the sum of its individual repeated stupid posts.
Yeah, Grobe was a real failure. He took a team that had won 17 games in the immediately prior 10 years and won half of his games, leaving the program full of returning starters. We'd've been about 9-2 plus MAC playoffs and, possibly, a bowl game with Grobe last year. Gee, he didn't do much with perennial doormat Wake, did he?!!
Easy math: KC = cluelesss
Yeah, Grobe was a real failure. He took a team that had won 17 games in the immediately prior 10 years and won half of his games, leaving the program full of returning starters. We'd've been about 9-2 plus MAC playoffs and, possibly, a bowl game with Grobe last year. Gee, he didn't do much with perennial doormat Wake, did he?!!
Easy math: KC = cluelesss
08-02-2002, 08:43 AM
Moron Slavin, How many MAC titles did Grobe win? Answer ZERO! How many divisional titles did he win? Answer ZERO! Did he have an overall winnning record at OU? Answer NO! You have got to be one of the biggest LA buffoons of all time! Kit Kat is right. What have you done for me lately? Your the one that was so excited with your WAR KNORR slogans when this guy was hired. I knew this guy was a clown from day one. Monroe + Slavin =idiot, insert foot. 3ball
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