I'd guess that the Wisconsin win over Minnehaha pretty much doomed the possibility of either BG, NIU, or UT gaining a third MAC bowl bid (obviously one of this trio will be playing in the MCB).
With OSU winning, the B10 will officially be "vacating" the MCB, causing that bowl to either "cut" another shady deal with an "conference to be named" in order to flaunt NCAA bowl eligibility regulations, or gag on inviting USF. I didn't follow all the scores that closely today, so I don't know how things stand other than what happened in the B10 and the fact that BYU lost to Utah (so the MWC won't cover but 3 of its 4 bowl slots me thinks). That just opens something up for the PAC 10 anyway.
To me the MAC's best shot was the Music City Bowl, and now either Purdue, Wisconsin (lost 5 of last 6) or fast-fading Minnehaha (lost last 4) will be the illustrious benefactor of that bowl slot.
So, with respect to the MAC and the MCB slot, I would guess the following:
* Obviously if the MAC West Champ wins the MACC, that team will be in the MCB.
* If UT wins the MAC West, but loses to Marshall in the MACC I would guess that they would still get the nod in the MCB due mostly to proximity and the fact that they would've beaten BG at the end of the season.
* If BG beats UT so NIU can back into the title, if NIU loses to Marshall then BG will likely gain the nod from the MCB due to better overall record and proximity to Detroit.
I think all 3 (BG, NIU or UT) would do a fine job supporting the MCB........I would just guess that due to fan base and proximity UT would likely get the best crowd at the MCB, but that partially depends on what opponent that the MCB can find for us.
Division 1 needs a playoff. Isn't it sad when the main factor in choosing a team is not how good they are but how many fans they will bring. What as What a joke. Make fun of 1AA but boy were those playoff games exciting. Playing teams you usally don't play and knowing the loser goes home and the winner plays on.
Question - how many teams does anyone believe the MAC would get into a 32 team playoff??
This year? One.
The MACC champion.
And that team might clearly not be among the best 32 teams in the country. :rolleyes:
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All that really matters is a MAC Championship.
Only one of three teams will win that.
I do hope that BG keeps Toledo home for the holidays :D
Right, so how does a playoff benefit the MAC, exactly? One team gets in our - the champ, is seeded 32nd and faces the top ranked team on the road in the first game. In the bowl system, we currently have two tie ins and certainly the potential, albeit slight, for more teams.
A playoff will not benefit the MAC because the powers have absolutely no intention of ever letting the MAC participate. That is a fact!
GFlash is correct........there's been no mention of a 16 team playoff (like IAA) being seriously considered in IA. If anything they'll go to a 4 team or maybe an 8 team playoff.....either way no MAC, WAC or C-USA team will be in sight.
The best thing that could happen is that bowl eligibility is set as >. 500 or better yet a .500 record in conference (but that is wishful thinking). In the meantime, the MAC should just be sure to secure 2 or 3 bids that they can count on..........plus we may lose 2-4 programs post 2004 (due to new attendance regs) so 2 or 3 bowls for 12 teams would be more reasonable.
But see, that's my point. We don't have a team, consistently, that CAN be considered among the top 10 teams in America, and even if we did, we'd only have one that would be deserving of being in a 16 team playoff - sorry, but there's no way the MAC would get more than 1 into a 16 or 32 team playoff even if they went computer ranking crazy like the BB tourney. At least with the bowls we get two and hopefully can get another slot or two in the near future.
We are what we are, and no matter what Marshall fans say, they are not better than the rest of the MAC in national stature. Even the CUSA would not get more than 1 team into a 16 or 32 team playoff.
HuskieDan Wrote:But see, that's my point. We don't have a team, consistently, that CAN be considered among the top 10 teams in America, and even if we did, we'd only have one that would be deserving of being in a 16 team playoff - sorry, but there's no way the MAC would get more than 1 into a 16 or 32 team playoff even if they went computer ranking crazy like the BB tourney. At least with the bowls we get two and hopefully can get another slot or two in the near future.
We are what we are, and no matter what Marshall fans say, they are not better than the rest of the MAC in national stature. Even the CUSA would not get more than 1 team into a 16 or 32 team playoff.
The whole thing with the Tourney is that the bowls wuld still be played. A champ may make the tournament. THen you could still have some teams in the regular bowls, although I don't know how much exposure they would get with a Nat'l champ tournament on opposite the bowl.
bgnormals Wrote:All that really matters is a MAC Championship.
Only one of three teams will win that.
I agree whole heartedly with that sentiment. Honestly, MAC fans, what game have you really cared more about....winning the MACC, or some lower tier bowl game?
I think Bo Shembechler said it best a few years back when someone asked him about Michigans chances for a national title: "to hell with the national championship, we're trying to win the big 10"
And that is pretty much the case in the MAC. I'm pretty sure that whoever wins the MACC will have a tougher time in Huntington than they will in Detroit or Mobile. Of course I was also sure that Miami would beat UCF, fwiw. :)
HuskieDan Wrote:Right, so how does a playoff benefit the MAC, exactly? One team gets in our - the champ, is seeded 32nd and faces the top ranked team on the road in the first game. In the bowl system, we currently have two tie ins and certainly the potential, albeit slight, for more teams.
Even at that the possibility of winning a national championship would be better with only one team in playing at UCG or Ohio St.. The problem I've always had was MUg, and Tulane going undefeated and not getting into the big Picture with the BCS, or UT going 10-1 2years ago with no bowl.
In Michigan last week was the Girls HS Basketball District tourneys, and 2 19-1 teams near K-zoo opened against each other. The point is that only one of these teams could win that District and go on to possibly win State (it doesn't matter if they lost last monday or if they lose in the championship they still did not win the State Title).
I would think that the bowls would still be played (the ones not integrated into the system). If not remember in Hoops last year Kent was seeded #10in their region and made it to the elite 8 in the nation.
MUther Wrote:The whole thing with the Tourney is that the bowls wuld still be played. A champ may make the tournament. THen you could still have some teams in the regular bowls, although I don't know how much exposure they would get with a Nat'l champ tournament on opposite the bowl.
Damn MUther.....you're making too much sense in this thread!
rocketfootball Wrote:MUther Wrote:The whole thing with the Tourney is that the bowls wuld still be played. A champ may make the tournament. THen you could still have some teams in the regular bowls, although I don't know how much exposure they would get with a Nat'l champ tournament on opposite the bowl.
Damn MUther.....you're making too much sense in this thread!
You must have misunderstood him. :D