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Today:

<span style='color:red'>CMU</span> 73, Drake 61 03-cool

Saturday:

Ball State 66, Wright State 59

Marshall 75, NIU 57

Kent 76, Illinois State 61

Northwestern 62, Bowling Green 60 03-banghead

Miami 44, WMU 39 ( :D )

Toledo 78, Ohio 71

Youngstown State 63, Buffalo 48 03-banghead

That's an OK 3-2 OOC record for the MAC this weekend.
When will the Bobkittens realize that they now have 1/2 the coach for twice the money. :D
CMichFan Wrote:Miami 44, WMU 39 ( :D )
Apparently, opposing teams are starting to figure us out.

The Broncos like a fast-paced, race up-and-down the court game, with a lot of aggressive play. So opposing teams now just take their good ol' time, keeping the pace slower than an 80-year-old driver on a Sunday afternoon. Looks like Miami did enough to make us shoot even worse than they did.

39 points. 05-nono I hope that's just a fluke performance.
Miami has been playing tenacious defense under Coles for awhile, and this season, it may be more necessary for them to do so. Miami lost, if I recall correctly, its top three scorers from last season. OTOH, the RedHawks may have looked at the Michigan film.


I think CMU may actually match up well with Miami this season. Kaman does just fine in a half-court set, Manciel has been scoring from inside and out, and a different guard has stepped up in each of our last couple wins. In addition, we have been forcing turnovers. The one potential problem: we also give the ball away too much.


Good luck against Centenary. :wave:



<!--EDIT|CMichFan|Dec 9 2002, 10:11 PM-->
Shedding a positive light on Saturday's game, in terms of <a href='http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/basketball/men/stats/teamdefense.htm' target='_blank'>team defense</a>, Miami is ranked 7th nationally, and WMU is ranked 4th. We had lit up against Detroit, so I was hoping that "shooting confidence" would spill over into Oxford.

I think CMU can pull it off against a formidable Marxist team. Especially if they can carry the confidence lift from the Michigan and Drake wins into that game.

Both teams having had such dissapointing records when we met up in football (although I enjoyed the result :D ), I wouldn't mind seeing both bball teams be successful during the regular season, and somehow meet on the floor at Gund.
It was a shocker to see that 17-16 halftime score. I figured Charlie was at it again. Score had CC written all over it.
Tough loss for the Zips--I saw the end of it on Fox OHio Saturday night.
Now we have no more MAC games until the weekend after New Years.
Tonight Miami @ Xavier.
Ouch! Who has an answer for David West? He can take the game over and if you throw doubles and triples at him the rest of the team will kill you. They looked very impressive taking a win out of the Shoe Saturday. No easy task no matter who you are or how green the Cats are. It was a good ballgame.
Waiting to hear the details on the UT-OU game from a friend who went. Bobs were out of it from mid-first half and the final 7 point spread was as close as they could come. Score was closer than the game, apparently. Hunter got his, but most in the second half when they were down 15 or so.
Now they get a chance to regroup at DePaul Tuesday. Probably not what the doctor ordered.
Nice win for Marshall on the road--just what they needed, but tough for NIU's chances this year, if they have any. What's up Huskies?
Can BG win at Mich Wed.? There's a barometer game for the West--BG fans can see how they stack up against a common opp.
axeme Wrote:Nice win for Marshall on the road--just what they needed, but tough for NIU's chances this year, if they have any. What's up Huskies?
Huskies stink. With our new coach and the new Convo Center, we will get better quickly, but not this year.
Those of you who don't care for the minutiae of basketball can skip right over this post. :D

I talked to my friend who went to the OU @ UT game Saturday night and he had some interesting observations. I'd really like to hear from any OU fans who were there about what they saw, too.

He said O'Shea had the Bobs in a 2-3 most of the game--despite the fact that it wasn't working(!)--letting Triplett bomb and bomb again. They would occasionaly slip into a 1-3-1, but for the most part were content to pack it inside. Seems odd to me since UT is not exactly a dominant team offensively with their size. They have size, but it's not scoring size it seems to me. They gave Triplett uncontested shots from the corner and he nailed 3 straight 3's at one point and still no change in defense. Maybe it's because they don't have anyone to defend speedy guards--when they did switch to a man late in the game, no one could check Triplett's speed.

On offense, OU kept BH in the high post--which is exactly what UT was defending--they had a small lineup in and still Hunter wouldn't go down on the block. They contained him throughout most of the game until late when they switched out to curb the 3's and he scored most of his points on layups after the game was decided.

I don't understand O'Sh's thinking here. When you have a cannon, you fire it. Hunter is the cannon. He want to use him as a decoy??
If you post Hunter down against a team like UT, he is going to draw so many fouls from their big men who are not nearly as agile as he is. Then you open up the outside shot some. When he's posted high, all the help D is already handy to defend the jumpers.
Plus on D--they are going to have to be able to go man-to-man to hang in this league this year. Too many shooters. You can't hide poor defenders, especially guards, in a zone because what happened Sat. will happen over and over--opposing guards will go nuts with open 3's. They couldn't get to the shooters against UT. My friend thought the zone looked lazy. Good teams drool to play teams that play zone to hide their weaknesses.

OU fans: has this been the pattern this year? Have they been playing this 2-3 zone a lot? Have they gone man in games much and how has it worked if they have? Is BH camping in the high block mostly?

I don't mean to harp on this, but T. O'S's coaching puzzles me. It did last year and it does this year. You can't say they haven't had talent. I just don't see a strong coaching imprint on this team. You see a Joplin, or Coles, or Dakich team, and you know they've been coached well.

03-confused
axeme Wrote:You see a Joplin, or Coles, or Dakich team, and you know they've been coached well.

03-confused
Talk to some of those guys over on Hawktalk -- they want CC fired.

We are running the "Princeton Offense" this year. I think it makes a lot of sense, given our personnel.
Sure it does. It's just not very pretty, except to the hoops aficionados. It will drive teams like Marshall and OU crazy, who just want to run the floor and out-skill you. I think Coles is an exceptional coach. He doesn't have the talent this year. Maybe 4th or 5th best talent in the EAST, let alone the MAC.
You'd better keep him as long as he wants to coach... 04-bow



<!--EDIT|axeme|Dec 9 2002, 03:52 PM-->
Saw the OU - UT game. It didn't seem to me OU played with much intensity. The were out rebounded, and out hustled all night long. Triplett had his best game ever. UT fans have been waiting for him to score. We think he has the talent to be an all MAC player. OU's guard play is suspect IMO.
I haven't seen BGSU play this season, and I don't know much about the Falcons, but regarding Michigan:

1) There's talent, but not much of a team concept. Part of this is youth and part -- IMO -- is coaching.

2) The Wolverines play erratically, going on the occasional scoring streak. See again #1 about youth and coaching. If you can weather these bursts, you'll have a chance to steal the game late.

3) Watch out for the homer whistles! CMU was victimized a few times, or we'd have won by more than seven ( I believe Western also had to overcome this). Specifically, Kaman was called for goaltending three or four times, and even Michigan's radio crew questioned a couple of them. They also thought a lot of the hand-check type calls were iffy (against both teams). 05-nono

4) Having glanced at your roster, I see you have a couple beefy 6'8" forwards. I would recommend pounding these guys inside, if they're any good at all! U of M couldn't handle Chris Kaman at all, and Mike Manciel also pretty much had his way inside.

5) Intangibles: two young teams, so anything is possible. Michigan enjoys home field, but the Wolverines' fans were pretty quiet, when CMU played at Chrisler.

6) Dakich is hands-down the better coach.


Hope this helps a little! BTW, U of M's PG is talented but makes mistakes. If you have anyone who can pressure the ballhandler, turn him loose!
Can you imagine that Michigan passed over Gary Waters for this guy. And that was Gary's dream job. I hate that Gary missed out, but I love that Michigan made the blunder. Now they have weak coaches in 2 sports. 04-cheers
Motown Bronco Wrote:I think CMU can pull it off against a formidable Marxist team. &nbsp;
I didn't think the Red Army team was still touring :D .
Oddly enough, Marist's nickname is the Red Foxes. 03-lol
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