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It really does paint a different picture.

<a href='http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/02/08/spt_wwwsptcol1a8.html' target='_blank'>Wauford</a>

Yea, it paints the picture of a lier.

If it were a picture it would be called a contradiction.

First in the article, he says the Guy never saw him[ Wafford] and just ran into him, he just put up his forearm to protect himself and the guy ran into him and fell down.

Then, a few paragraphs later he says " he made a decision that the person was attacking him", huh? How can a person that he first states didn't see him, then be attacking him.

Of course we should believe a coach that is wrapped up in his emotions right after a heart breaking last second loss and just made a bad decesion over a professional law enforcement offical. According to him he was not angry, just sad about the way the game ended.

Yea, thats why he chased the officals across the field towards their dressing rooms, just to relay how sad he was. Come on, the guy is guilty, he quit and thats that. By telling two differnet versions in the same story, i would say the guy has a problem with reality as well as his anger.

Herdon Wrote:Yea, it paints the picture of a lier.

If it were a picture it would be called a contradiction.

First in the article, he says the Guy never saw him[ Wafford] and just ran into him, he just put up his forearm to protect himself and the guy ran into him and fell down.

Then, a few paragraphs later he says " he made a decision that the person was attacking him", huh? How can a person that he first states didn't see him, then be attacking him.

Of course we should believe a coach that is wrapped up in his emotions right after a heart breaking last second loss and just made a bad decesion over a professional law enforcement offical. According to him he was not angry, just sad about the way the game ended.

Yea, thats why he chased the officals across the field towards their dressing rooms, just to relay how sad he was. Come on, the guy is guilty, he quit and thats that. By telling two differnet versions in the same story, i would say the guy has a problem with reality as well as his anger.

That is not an inconsistency.

He says he didn't see him until the last second and thought he was being attacked.

Also, from what I understand, the State Trooper didn't want him handcuffed, but the local Huntington cop did it anyway, saying to him, "You're not in Ohio, anymore, boy."

And it is true that Hoeppner and the fan talked on the phone more than once. The Marshall fan was appologetic, and he had originally agreed to appear on TV and shake hands with Wauford. Then, his friends in his firm advised him against it.

There's also a lot more to all this than you guys will ever know.

Quote:There's also a lot more to all this than you guys will ever know.

You tease!

Huntington Police Officers do not work the Marshall games. So that isn't very credible.

NO No DODO

Read your own link, no where in the article does he say at the last second[ I can't even put it in quotes since it does not appear in the article, espically in the context you use it]
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He does not say he [ the fan] did'nt even see me until the last second. He says he did'nt even see me,

YOU added , at the last second to try and make your point that Wafford was somehow in the right.

He then says he felt as though he was being attacked.

I ask again, which is it, you can't have it both ways, of course unless you are so blinded by emotion that you can overlook both his actions, and his own confussion as to the facts. PUT HIM ON THE STAND.

In the same article he gives two different versions, even your editorial help can't help his contridictions.

Exactly! Everyone knows that the only security in that dump are Roscoe and Bubba, Bobby Pruett' personal state troopers.

Nice, factless flame, as usuall.

Alright...Let's get it right. EVERYONE knows that there is no "e" is Rosco!!!!

Dayem, don't you watch the "Dukes of Hazard"? :D

Quote:Also, from what I understand, the State Trooper didn't want him handcuffed, but the local Huntington cop did it anyway, saying to him, "You're not in Ohio, anymore, boy."

Good grief Dodo. You should know better.

That registers the same reading on the reliability meter as "Herd fans threw dead birds at Miami cheerleaders".

He was arrested by West Virginia State Police. They're not going to take orders from anybody on whether somebody should be in handcuffs or not. They are also dedicated, honorable people. This insubstantiated taunting allegation is very offensive.

Who told you that? RedSteve? Amy? They tells lots of good stories.







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THUNDERstruck73 Wrote:Alright...Let's get it right. EVERYONE knows that there is no "e" is Rosco!!!!

Dayem, don't you watch the "Dukes of Hazard"? :D

My humblest apologies to Rosco, his family, friends, and admirers. :D

OK, let's put this to rest...

1. Fans shouldn't be on the field, but it's naive to think they won't be.
2. Fans who go on the field risk injury in many forms and have no one to blame but themselves (in most cases).
3. The Miami coach shouldn't have done what he did and he is rightfully facing the music.
4. If we knew we could get away with it, and we saw a Marshall fan running towards our team to attack, berate, rape, or just annoy someone, we'd knock him down to.

Did I cover everything?



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Herd Fan 4-Life Wrote:Huntington Police Officers do not work the Marshall games. So that isn't very credible.

Whatever. It was some kind of local security. Sherriffs?

I know that the state trooper said he didn't need to be cuffed.

Hey, like I said before, that still doesn't excuse his actions, but I do have a little more sympathy for they guy.

I hope that in the next two weeks they'll be some information put out by the conference about some things that happened during the game, but if not, c'est la vie.

You tease!

Stick4489 Wrote:Who told you that? RedSteve? Amy? They tells lots of good stories.

Oh, I forgot...any story that doesn't reflect your green-colored fairy tale world (complete with green unicorns, green smurfs, green-only rainbows and malicious wounds that never happened) must most certainly be a lie.

Oh, and in case you forgot, you missed calling my wife a liar as well. Although Dodo's sources are generally better informed about Miami sports than my wife...

You mean someone actually married you!?!? Will miracles never cease. Glad to see you are back up and running.

oh, trust me...I definitely got the better end of the bargain.

And thanks. Damn Script Kiddies...

Herdon........isn't it enough for you that Wauford's dreams and career aspirations were ruined in a flash.........without condoning his reaction that night (although knowing how I felt at that precise moment I can certainly empathize with the emotionalism he felt), it seems that he has "paid the price" for his actions.

Methinks you ask too much to expect him to tell the Cincy Enquirer reporter that he might have "lost it" in the emotion of the moment (whether it's true or not).........remember, this poor guy now has to ressurect his career, (if he can) and I kind of doubt he is going to make public statements making himself look worse than he already did on national TV.

From all accounts I have read (and heard personally) about Wauford, he's not the "thug" that Herd fans like you would like him to believe. He's a man who made a bad choice (reaction is more probably more accurate) at the worst possible time, and he has lost his job no matter what the outcome of the "trial" in WV.

Lay off, won't ya?



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exCincy Kid Wrote:Herdon........isn't it enough for you that Wauford's dreams and career aspirations were ruined in a flash.........without condoning his reaction that night (although knowing how I felt at that precise moment I can certainly empathize with the emotionalism he felt), it seems that he has "paid the price" for his actions.

Methinks you ask too much to expect him to tell the Cincy Enquirer reporter that he might have "lost it" in the emotion of the moment (whether it's true or not).........remember, this poor guy now has to ressurect his career, (if he can) and I kind of doubt he is going to make public statements making himself look worse than he already did on national TV.

From all accounts I have read (and heard personally) about Wauford, he's not the "thug" that Herd fans like you would like him to believe. He's a man who made a bad choice (reaction is more probably more accurate) at the worst possible time, and he has lost his job no matter what the outcome of the "trial" in WV.

Lay off, won't ya?

Ummm, the last I checked Wauford wasn't the victim here.