An object lesson on money in recruiting.
<a href='http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/high_school/7696869.htm' target='_blank'>Linky</a>
That ought to be against NCAA Rules ... :mad:
I don't understand how the NCAA can let this happen when just last year they busted Utah because Majerus took one of his players out for pizza.
Spend all you want to on a kid before he signs, but once he enrolls you better not think of buying him a sandwich. I don't care how many family issues he's having. Just ask Rick Majerus...
<a href='http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Jul/07312003/utah/79898.asp' target='_blank'>Utah and the NCAA</a>
Great minds, eh Pville...?
PvilleHerdFan Wrote:I don't understand how the NCAA can let this happen when just last year they busted Utah because Majerus took one of his players out for pizza.
There is nothing wrong with taking a recruit to dinner. I remember seeing Amstutz do that at J.Alexander's about 5 or 6 years ago.
Now, buying clothing or something else like that would be a problem. But going to dinner and paying for it while discussing what your school can offer to a recruit is not against the NCAA laws.
From what I understood, there is something very wrong about taking your players out to eat.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember an assistant coach was allowed to have players over his house for a home cooked meal as long as it was at his house.
And I think the NCAA allows so many of these "house dinner visits".
For an organization such as the NCAA to be so nit picky, they sure let alot slide with the big time programs.
If meals such as those consumed by that Florida high school kid are permissible, they shouldn't be.
Flipper nailed it. As long as a kid is a recruit, you can treat him to the finest 5 star restaruants in town. You can shuttle him around in a Porsche if that's your desire. You can bring him to town on a private jet.
Once he's signed, you can't buy him a Big Mac. (I read somewhere that the NCAA, realizing how ludicrous that was, relaxed the rule slightly. Coaches can now buy an "occasional" meal for a student-athlete).
Unfortunately, this puts the lie to all of the NCAA's pronouncements about student-athletes. A prospective athlete should be making a decision based on the academic programs available at that school, his chance to play at that school, and his comfort level with the other players and coaches. Basing it on which school has the largest recruiting budget, when the prospect will never see any of that once he's enrolled, is assanine in the extreme.
Truthfully, the NCAA needs to take a look at this kind of behavior and put some limits in place such as a coach ticket to and from the school, a $50 limit on meal costs, etc.
I don't have all the particulars, but part of an "official" school visit involves transportation (the school covering the cost of air travel if necessary, assumed to be any means possible, even private jet) and meals for the weekend (it is common for the players to have dinner at a good restaurant - this is made much easier by actually having a good restaurant in town, rather than having to rely on the local Applebee's). There are things like this that the school is allowed to pay for on official visits - I don't know if there is a dollar limit or not.
Of course, the problem with implementing a strict dollar amount limit on recruit meals is that owners of local establishments are usually boosters of the university in town...or at least there are enough proprietors that the coaches would know which establishment to frequent...and most of them would have no problem in having a "coaches' special" menu item (probably named with a less egregious name) that magically costs $49.95...and consists of the entire left side of the menu plus a diet coke.
Well, I went and took a quick gander at the NCAA rules regarding official visits. Basically, you can get the prospect to campus any way you want and there is no dollar limitation on meals. There is a rule saying that entertainment can't be "excessive" but the example they use is hiring a band.
Not that it will ever happen, but schools should be limited to providing a coach airline ticket to the prospect and his/her parent(s) or legal guardian(s) and there should be a dollar limitation on meals. $75 per day should be enough to feed anyone 3 meals quite nicely. Also RedSteve, the problem you bring up could be enforced by saying that the establishment must charge the instution its regular prices. That might not stop every single violation but it would stop most and it would allow sanctions for those that did violate it.
Part II:
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This kid turns my stomach. I'm glad he won't be in a Falcon uniform.
And the Miami Herald is pumping up this punk's ego with their garbage stories on his spoiled ****** He makes me sick.
"The following morning, the recruits toured the campus and talked academics."
Surely they went over the course load requirements in the Recreation Management program. This guy better be good at football, because I wouldn't hire him to be a janitor at my company.
Lobster?
Steak?
At Marshall, we spoil our recruits with a couple of Stewart's Hot Dogs and all of the root beer they can drink.
Maybe we need to retool our recruitment strategy? :(
Chris from WV Wrote:Lobster?
Steak?
At Marshall, we spoil our recruits with a couple of Stewart's Hot Dogs and all of the root beer they can drink.
Maybe we need to retool our recruitment strategy? :(
Don't forget that janitorial job offer as well! :D
Schadenfreude Wrote:Part II:
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This kid turns my stomach. I'm glad he won't be in a Falcon uniform.
I agree, SF. Hearing the way he is carrying himself makes me sick.
He thinks he is God's gift to the college football world...and the recruiting process is helping him think that.
Give me a Josh Harris any day.
Schadenfreude Wrote:Part II:
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This kid turns my stomach. I'm glad he won't be in a Falcon uniform.
Quote:I ain't no snowman.
I've always said that southerners can't take the cold. He'd shatter into 1000 tiny pieces playing up north in the late fall.
Honestly, the MAC should talk more smack about getting some SEC or Fla teams up to Cleveland Stadium or Soldier Field for a late season game. Bowden won't listen, but some other AD might get chided into it.
While it might sound nice, the likelihood of getting an SEC team in a MAC stadium is somewhere between none and none.
MAKO Wrote:While it might sound nice, the likelihood of getting an SEC team in a MAC stadium is somewhere between none and none.
Did I write about getting them in a MAC stadium?
