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There is growing talk that IF TCU does join the MWC and IF the C-USA takes another Texas school (such as North Texas or Utep)or La. Tech, several C-USA teams- Memphis, East Carolina, Marshall, Central Florida, UAB, and Southern Miss may bolt to form their own conference with Temple and several MAC schools such as Miami OH, Toledo, and Northern Ill. UMass, Navy, and Army have also been brought up in recent talks. Stay tuned...
This seems like pure craziness. Do you see where the ACC has led us? There is so crazy talk going on, and people are switching conferences faster than Michael Jackson switches gender. Conferences are almost becoming irrelevant due to all of this. We can thank the ACC and the BCS for causing what we now know as the "conference crisis". Everyone either wants in somewhere, or wants out somewhere.
When will it end?
The Knight Time Wrote:When will it end?
My guess is that we still have 3-5 more years of moves happening before it is all over; probably impacted by the attendance rules somewhat too.
At All_Sports they are reporting that Toledo and Miami have flatly turned down C-USA
Sorry about that. Here is the correct link.
<a href='http://www.out_side.net/allsports-football/CUSA-expansion' target='_blank'>http://www.out_side.net/allsports-football.../CUSA-expansion</a>
I would think that putting the top CUSA schools and the top MAC schools would make a great conference. It would be very strong in both basketball and football but it will never happen. It would work out well for all teams involved. It seems logical if you wanted the strongest possible conference. It might even one day be BCS worthy. To bad it will never happen. We can dream.
I think it's tremendously funny that a fan of a school that has hopped from independence to C-USA and now has every intention of hopping again whenever the opportunity presents itself - all int he span of a few years - is upset with the fact that the effect is to diminish the purpose and identity of the conferences.
If you want stability - stay put.
If you want an end to re-alignemnt - stay put.
If you want to move up - make yourself and your conference better.
nert Wrote:I think it's tremendously funny that a fan of a school that has hopped from independence to C-USA and now has every intention of hopping again whenever the opportunity presents itself - all int he span of a few years - is upset with the fact that the effect is to diminish the purpose and identity of the conferences.
If you want stability - stay put.
If you want an end to re-alignemnt - stay put.
If you want to move up - make yourself and your conference better.
We moved once conferences 1 time and may not move again. Sorry if that really hurts you that bad. The MAC was never a good fit for UCF. Just look at how far away we are. Save the crap.....
The Knight Time Wrote:nert Wrote:I think it's tremendously funny that a fan of a school that has hopped from independence to the MAC to C-USA and now has every intention of hopping again whenever the opportunity presents itself - all in the span of a few years - is upset with the fact that the effect is to diminish the purpose and identity of the conferences.
If you want stability - stay put.
If you want an end to re-alignemnt - stay put.
If you want to move up - make yourself and your conference better.
We moved once conferences 1 time and may not move again. Sorry if that really hurts you that bad. The MAC was never a good fit for UCF. Just look at how far away we are. Save the crap.....
I was against the UCF add from the beginning (though I recognized that UCF needed a home - even a temporary one, and it didn't hurt MAC FB to have an even number of teams). But I couldn't care less if they moved to join C-USA or the Great Alaskan Conference. They never belonged in the MAC.
And it's still funny that a UCF fan would bemoan shifting conferences when they themselves were only too eager to shift (and would again in a heartbeat to move up to the BigEast).
"hurts" me that UCF left????? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You'll need to check that self-delusion at the door. It is UCF we're talking about - not a good FB program or anything. It's just another example of addition by subtraction for a conference - kind of like how the WAC got stronger in FB with the "losses" of Rice, SMU and Tulsa. (what schlep of a conference took them?).
Losing Marshall was a loss - UCF was an merely maintenance (and their original invitation was contingent on Marshall being in the MAC - so they may have been given the boot if they hadn't left at the same time as Marshall anyway).
[quote="Rocky"] At All_Sports they are reporting that Toledo and Miami have flatly turned down C-USA
The Knight Time Wrote:This seems like pure craziness. Do you see where the ACC has led us? There is so crazy talk going on, and people are switching conferences faster than Michael Jackson switches gender. Conferences are almost becoming irrelevant due to all of this. We can thank the ACC and the BCS for causing what we now know as the "conference crisis". Everyone either wants in somewhere, or wants out somewhere.
When will it end?
Dude, UCF's move to the MAC was their first step to getting into the Big East, remember?? Don't ***** about these moves - the UCF administration would gladly move 12 times if it means getting into the ACC or Big East and you know it - it was their stated mission!
You're right - this talk is all craziness. Isn't it ironic that the MAC still appears to be the conference that has stayed closest to it's traditional core....oh, wait, that's not irony, that's called strength.
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There is growing talk that IF TCU does join the MWC and IF the C-USA takes another Texas school (such as North Texas or Utep)or La. Tech, several C-USA teams- Memphis, East Carolina, Marshall, Central Florida, UAB, and Southern Miss may bolt to form their own conference with Temple and several MAC schools such as Miami OH, Toledo, and Northern Ill. UMass, Navy, and Army have also been brought up in recent talks. Stay tuned...
This is nutty. Army and Navy have been bad more than good over the past 10 years. They look to be improving now, but there is only so high they can go.
Temple is all "potential". They haven't been good in a long, long time. A conference w/ Army and Navy makes sense for them...but not as a power conference.
NIU has not proven itself consistent over the long haul. UCF has not proven itself consistent over the short haul.
UMass and UDel are IAA!
UAB is not a good team, and has serious financial troubles.
Toledo, Miami (OH), So Miss and Marshall are the most consistent teams mentioned here. Three are already in a conference together...why go through so much shuffling to get back to essentially the same situation?
Conference juggling isn't going to solve the problem. Attacking the BCS, either though court or clever scheduling, is the solution.
The Knight Time Wrote:Save the crap.....
Are you suggesting that we compost your posts?
You had such good, heartfelt advice for those TCU fans the other day. So why the ****** aren't you gone from here, you hypocritical weasel?
The Knight Time Wrote:nert Wrote:I think it's tremendously funny that a fan of a school that has hopped from independence to C-USA and now has every intention of hopping again whenever the opportunity presents itself - all int he span of a few years - is upset with the fact that the effect is to diminish the purpose and identity of the conferences.
If you want stability - stay put.
If you want an end to re-alignemnt - stay put.
If you want to move up - make yourself and your conference better.
We moved once conferences 1 time and may not move again. Sorry if that really hurts you that bad. The MAC was never a good fit for UCF. Just look at how far away we are. Save the crap.....
Some things just go together perfectly, but no one would've believed it was true about cocaine and rhinos until you came along. :D