Doesn't the MAC need to figure out what to do with the bottom feeders we have already.
Adding a D1AA team, WKU or any other, will make our terrible SOS even worse. The MAC needs to fix the teams it has currently not add more dead weight.
WKU has good not great basketball, when was the last time they had a "great" team? 10 years ago?
NIU27 Wrote:Doesn't the MAC need to figure out what to do with the bottom feeders we have already.
Adding a D1AA team, WKU or any other, will make our terrible SOS even worse. The MAC needs to fix the teams it has currently not add more dead weight.
WKU has good not great basketball, when was the last time they had a "great" team? 10 years ago?
Define "bottom feeders".
Quote:WKU has good not great basketball, when was the last time they had a "great" team? 10 years ago?
Dear lord, at least do five seconds' worth of research before you make a ridiculous statement like that. Prior to this season, WKU had gone to three straight NCAA tournaments. They just missed an upset of the Big Ten champion in the first round last season.
NIU27 Wrote:Doesn't the MAC need to figure out what to do with the bottom feeders we have already.
Adding a D1AA team, WKU or any other, will make our terrible SOS even worse. The MAC needs to fix the teams it has currently not add more dead weight.
WKU has good not great basketball, when was the last time they had a "great" team? 10 years ago?
Since just a couple of short years ago NIU was considered a "bottom feeder" what would you have recommended should have been done?
HuronDave Wrote:NIU27 Wrote:Doesn't the MAC need to figure out what to do with the bottom feeders we have already.
Adding a D1AA team, WKU or any other, will make our terrible SOS even worse. The MAC needs to fix the teams it has currently not add more dead weight.
WKU has good not great basketball, when was the last time they had a "great" team? 10 years ago?
Since just a couple of short years ago NIU was considered a "bottom feeder" what would you have recommended should have been done?
Hell, we still are a bottom feeder in b-ball. I do think he should have done a little research. Speaking of adding teams, lets add SIU as well. Pretty good football, good b-ball, a rival for us(even though it is farther than many current MAC teams and it is only like 4.5 hours from WKU). SIU may get the MAC more exposure in the St. Louis market. The only thing I didn't research is attendance but my guess is 15k wouldn't be a problem.
Geeze NIU 27 :rolleyes:
Here's the deal. Agree with me or not, I'd wager it'll happen like this -
No one is added to the MAC
No one is subtracted from the MAC
Let's concentrate on making sure that the programs with football attendence issues are given any and all help that other MAC schools can provide to them. We are a band of brothers in mid-major arms....... cause right now, most of the best football schools (NIU, Toledo etc) have bad basketball teams. Most of the best basketball teams (Kent, UB) have bad football teams. And in 5 or 7 or 10 years, all the above is reversed!
Keep the status quo - keep the MAC the way it is - change is scary
Western Kentucky was a top 25 team in basketball just two years ago.
The MAC needs WKU for Basketball.
- 19 NCAA Appearances
- 1 Final Four
- 1,466 Wins
[quote="therealbigredrules"] The MAC needs WKU for Basketball.
- 19 NCAA Appearances
- 1 Final Four
- 1,466 Wins
I think the MAC should add Temple for football, MTSU for all sports, and Western Kentucky for all other sports. Just my 2 cents.
MT does produce some of their games on local television. Middle Tennessee has a well known Mass Communications program, so they usually do 2-4 home games every year on the college television station. We also usually get a few games each year on ESPN regional through the Sun Belt Network or the Blue Raider Network.
In the past games that we have played against SEC and C-USA members have been televised locally by the Nashville Television stations. These have been really good coverage for us. I've gone to many of these games so I do not know how the programming was, but I know 2 years ago we played against LSU on prime time in Nashville on a Saturday night and a few weeks later played at UAB during the day.
The coverage has been good, but not near what it could be.
I'm not sure what WKU has done. I haven't seen them in the Nashville Market except for scores post on the nightly news. But Bowling Green does have a public broadcast station that seems to support WKU, but I do not know to what extent.
The MAC is a football conference. WKU does nothing for us there.
I didn't say they were bad in bball, i said when were they great. So they get a bid from a weak conference. I did not say anything bad about them other than the MAC needs to stay as is.
Yes, NIU was a bottom feeder and we have begun to correct that. I won't offend the other bottom feeders, you know who you are! :)
These are the teams I proposed years ago before we added UCF instead. I liked the idea then, and I still like it (though MTSU's BB and FB programs aren't what they were). It allows us a cushion for I-A status and gives weaker MAC FB programs enough potential conference mates in I-AA (if MAC FB teams do end up being relegated there) to form their own I-AA version of the MAC. Then you keep all 14 teams in the non-FB MAC line-up.
If you're going to expand - you expand into adjacent markets (KY and TN) - not by adding schools clear across the country (UCF).
WKU and MTSU give us a decent foothold in the near south if/when the MusicCityBowl comes available soon. It should come available soon - the re-alignment of bowls is sure to follow the weakening of BigEast FB. We might even get a game against the BigEast there when the Big11 and SEC leave it in search of more southernly bowl venues.
I still like this idea.
NIU27 Wrote:The MAC is a football conference.
Ridiculous statement that shows no understanding of the history of the conference. It is BASKETBALL where the MAC has made its biggest inroads on the national stage. Football had a fantastic year this year because of some phenomenal OOC wins, but that is not usually the case. The MAC on the whole loses money on football, makes money on basketball--and I've never been one to think that was a significant measure anyway, but it seems to accompany the dumb notion that football is the one thing that should drive what this conference does.
No.
The MAC needs to seriously upgrade the quality of
both sports and right now the conference overall basketball ratings suffer because of programs that get killed by mediocre teams OOC in Nov.-Dec. year after year. This year is particularly bad.
The WKU hoops program would instantly be in the upper echelon of MAC hoops programs and they have shown they would stay there.
We have 6-7 schools, as in football, that have crap for programs: they consider it a major success if they get to the final 8 in a 13 team league!