Schadenfreude Wrote:rocketfootball Wrote:It was still an ugly pass....especially from a Heisman winner.
I guess I'd have to look at the highlight again. I didn't see it that way.
It wasn't a floater, if that is all that you count as an ugly pass. It was a crisp pass, but right to the BG defender.
I am not taking anything away from BG, it was a great play and great instincts for the BG defender to guess right on what play Oklahoma was doing.
However, White (especially as a so-called "great Heisman" player) should have seen the BG defender breaking and never thrown the pass. To me, that is ugly.......throwing it right to the BG defender.
Quote:However, White (especially as a so-called "great Heisman" player) should have seen the BG defender breaking and never thrown the pass.
According to the TiVo replay borrowed from the Big 10 (can't count to 11), White threw a perfect ball. The BG interceptor was not in his line of sight, plus he was somewhat hidden by all the linemen.
Callers on Oklahoma sports radio, who are never satisfied unless they win 82-0, are blaming OU's offensive coordinator for a bad play call.
How about this for the correct explanation? The BG defender simply anticipated the play correctly with exquisite execution.
rocketfootball Wrote:I never ripped Marshall for the lost......I was more shocked than anything else. This is only their 3rd loss at home since rejoining I-A in 1997. WMU and Toledo were the other losses at Marshall.
Toledo did get blown out. After a game like that against a Minnesota team that believes they can win the Big Ten, you have to still wonder how good Toledo is. We will find out at Kansas.
As for Marshall, they had issues no doubt about it. They didn't get blown out, but Troy would probably have got blown out by Minnesota. Last year Minnesota beat Troy 48-7, and the Gophers are better this year. Marshall has some big issues on their O-Line. Until that gets fixed, it will be hard for their star players on offense to do much.
Both Toledo and Marshall have issues right now, but Toledo's might not be that bad and we won't know until after the Rockets play at Kansas next week.
On another note......Minnesota hosts DI-AA Illinois State next weekend. What will that score be? 80-0?
I definitely agree that Marshall has issues. Toledo? Personally, I can't say. Like you said, I'd wait to see how well they play against Kansas but also wait to see how the Gophers do in their upcomming Big 10 games. Minnesota might just be that good.
DBS2703 Wrote:But, the score was 37-10 at the end of the 3rd. The dogs, at that point, were probably called off. My point, simply, was that if your team loses, especially by a considerable margin, it probably isn't wise to trash another team that loses. Even if it was at home. By and underdog. :crying:
To their credit, I'm not sure if their games were over before they saw the Marshall score.
But, this is all pretty meaningless right now, don't you think?
You clearly did not see the game. I watched the whole game and let me tell you, Oklahoma did not call off the dogs and when BG scored to make it 37-24 there was some serious concern in the suddenly quite stands. OU's starters played the whole game and they had to as BG was coming on strong. I am not saying BG would have won this game, but once again I can only imagine what kind of result we may have seen if we can ever get one of these BCS superpowers to play at a MAC locale.
Even though they were losses, BG and NIU provided some hope for us this weekend in an otherwise miserable performance by the MAC in OOC 1A games.
You Ohio U fans might be getting Pitt at a time when they are looking real serious at Nebraska. Hope you leave with a win
Okie Chippewa Wrote:The BG defender simply anticipated the play correctly with exquisite execution.
This sounds like Don King broadcasting the game.
Okie Chippewa Wrote:Quote:However, White (especially as a so-called "great Heisman" player) should have seen the BG defender breaking and never thrown the pass.
According to the TiVo replay borrowed from the Big 10 (can't count to 11), White threw a perfect ball. The BG interceptor was not in his line of sight, plus he was somewhat hidden by all the linemen.
Callers on Oklahoma sports radio, who are never satisfied unless they win 82-0, are blaming OU's offensive coordinator for a bad play call.
How about this for the correct explanation? The BG defender simply anticipated the play correctly with exquisite execution.
It was a 3-step drop, quick pitch. It was a perfect pass, but the play was read all the way by Keon Newson...He was breaking for it
before the snap!
I will tell you right now, at that point, we had just executed a perfect 80-yard drive. Our offense finally seemed to be clicking, and now we were within 13. There was a LOT of time left, and 38-37BG started creeping into my mind.
However, Stoops did the smart thing and used their physical superiority to eat 9 minutes, and that was it.
This game WAS in doubt in the 4th. Oklahoma just ate the clock and kicked that field goal to make the lead 16. They went for it on 4th down twice on that drive. The wind was in their face and they needed to get
some points to put the game out of reach.
A loss is a loss, but I will take mine over everyone else's Saturday. Does anyone realize what Stoops usually tries to do to OOC opponents? Didn't they beat Texas Tech like 77-0 last year? We were within striking distance in the 4th.
Man, I am getting sick of being told that we were "blown out." We were beaten, but in no way were we blown out. It wasn't even an ugly game. Both teams played relatively well. All the turnovers were caused by great defense, not bad offense. There were very few penalties.
Falcon30 Wrote:A loss is a loss, but I will take mine over everyone else's Saturday. Does anyone realize what Stoops usually tries to do to OOC opponents? DIdn't they beat Texas Tech like 77-0 last year? We were within striking distance in the 4th.
They beat A&M 77-0 last year, and kicked the living crap out of Texas.
Stoops actually seems to take it easy on OOC teams, it's the conference teams he likes to beat up. Especially Texas.
HuskieDan Wrote:Falcon30 Wrote:A loss is a loss, but I will take mine over everyone else's Saturday. Does anyone realize what Stoops usually tries to do to OOC opponents? DIdn't they beat Texas Tech like 77-0 last year? We were within striking distance in the 4th.
They beat A&M 77-0 last year, and kicked the living crap out of Texas.
Stoops actually seems to take it easy on OOC teams, it's the conference teams he likes to beat up. Especially Texas.
Someone on the BG board said that the average score of his OOC games was like 45-10.
While the MAC did not fair well this past weekend, the MAC has many games left vs. BCS teams.
Western Mich vs. Illinois, Toledo Vs. Kansas and NIU vs. Iowa State all very winnable games.
Would not be surpriised to see a few other wins, possibly Ball State at Missouri, the appears to hold their own against BC. And dare I say Buffalo over Syracuse. I still see 5 wins by MAC over BCS.
As has been said over and over, MAC teams are on the BCS radar and will not be overlooked.
Go Huskies!!!
HuskieDan Wrote:On the embarrassment list, Marshall is at the top losing at home to Troy St. Flat out pathetic.
Toledo is next up - for the team that we all had the most hope for pulling an upset to get absolutely annihilated like that does the MAC no favors.
Akron's next up - I had really hoped to see them be competitive, at least, with a mediocre PSU team.
Miami's next up - I didn't think they played that poorly, but couldn't overcome Betts' mistakes.
I had hoped for UCF to fare better, but didn't really expect it. BG appeared to at least play tough, and NIU was really gritty without our QB.
I guess the "amount of embarrassment" attributed to the margin of defeat is something "discussion worthy" only here. The only MAC schools to claim victory last weekend were the ones playing other MAC schools or 1-AA competition. A woeful comment for the Conference. However, I suppose if you feel compelled to wallow in last weekend's defeats - then go right ahead. The fact that Marshall is at the top of this "$hitlist" doesn't mask the fact that all but three (3) MAC teams made the list.