Alright people, after a phone call to the ever popular un-named source, here is the latest on the MAC bowl front. Not fully viable yet, but strong data nonetheless.
This assumes Miami beats Akron in all cases below - if Akron wins, no data on my side for an update yet.
If UT beats BG, Toledo to MCB, Miami to GMAC and most likely BG to SVB. NIU may be SOL here folks.
If BG beats UT and NIU beats EMU, BG to SVB, NIU to Detroit and Miami back to Mobile. Toledo likely SOL.
MAC office still working hard on the Ft Worth Bowl and Humanitarian Bowl. I am pinching myself with the outside thought of four MAC bowl teams! I'm am extremely happy for three.
SVB and MAC are talking about making the MAC a full time partner with that bowl, thus, they would have a choice in the future to take a MAC#3 or lower PAC 10 team. Indy Bowl still being talked about - no news there other than it's still "on the shelf with a pulse."
Now is a good time to be in the MAC!
what would be better than a battle for top IL team at the MCB? Cats vs. Dogs! Northern vs. Northwestern! But, I'll take what we can get
Vandelay Wrote:SVB and MAC are talking about making the MAC a full time partner with that bowl, thus, they would have a choice in the future to take a MAC#3 or lower PAC 10 team. Indy Bowl still being talked about - no news there other than it's still "on the shelf with a pulse."
I've kind of wondered if it would be viable having the MAC champ square off against the WAC champ in a bowl, maybe the SVB.
Kit-Cat Wrote:Vandelay Wrote:SVB and MAC are talking about making the MAC a full time partner with that bowl, thus, they would have a choice in the future to take a MAC#3 or lower PAC 10 team. Indy Bowl still being talked about - no news there other than it's still "on the shelf with a pulse."
I've kind of wondered if it would be viable having the MAC champ square off against the WAC champ in a bowl, maybe the SVB.
It would be boise state vs. MAC champion on the blue turf.. I'd like to see the MAC break their winning streak. Although, they have other aspirations
Thanks, Nick....always nice to get the "inside scoop". Gotta just say I'm surprised that they wouldn't have NIU head down to the GMAC vs. Miami again........I'm thinking that they would take more fans than Miami this time around vs. us going back to the same bowl again.
At the same time, one thing that is working in the MAC's favor in these bowls is that it appears in the case of the SVB and the GMAC they'll have a "local favorite". In the case of the SVB, it'll be Fresno which has a strong fan following and in the case of the GMAC, either UAB, S-Miss or Memphis....CUSA schools within driving distance with good fan followings.
Vandelay Wrote:Now is a good time to be in the MAC!
Not if we are SOL after beating BG soundly.
=>Am I correct that NIU, if they beat EMU and Toledo beats BUGS, will be MAC West Co-champs for the 3rd time in 4 years (with the 10-2 team last year being the 1 non-champ), and yet never once making the MACC or (likely) going to a bowl?
That sucks dude.
It does, and to be honest I'm surprised that one of the MAC's bowls wouldn't perhaps prefer the conference leader in attendance (NIU after this weekend) if Toledo beats BG and then the MAC East representative. Of course, Nick did say that these scenarios assume a Miami victory over the Zips....I think you can infer from that is if Akron beats Miami but loses in the MACC, they will not be bowling in all likelyhood. In that case NIU would get the GMAC slot.
USA Today says it's official:
<a href='http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/mac/2004-11-16-mac-silicon-valley_x.htm' target='_blank'>MAC & SVC make a deal.</a>
ex Cincy Kid Wrote:It does, and to be honest I'm surprised that one of the MAC's bowls wouldn't perhaps prefer the conference leader in attendance (NIU after this weekend) if Toledo beats BG and then the MAC East representative. Of course, Nick did say that these scenarios assume a Miami victory over the Zips....I think you can infer from that is if Akron beats Miami but loses in the MACC, they will not be bowling in all likelyhood. In that case NIU would get the GMAC slot.
Yeah, that would be my assumption, too. 10K more per game than BG and a head to head win (and in reality, neither team has a good OOC win to hang their hat on).
Kit-Cat Wrote:Vandelay Wrote:SVB and MAC are talking about making the MAC a full time partner with that bowl, thus, they would have a choice in the future to take a MAC#3 or lower PAC 10 team. Indy Bowl still being talked about - no news there other than it's still "on the shelf with a pulse."
I've kind of wondered if it would be viable having the MAC champ square off against the WAC champ in a bowl, maybe the SVB.
What part of "California Bowl" do you not understand?
Vandelay Wrote:SVB and MAC are talking about making the MAC a full time partner with that bowl, thus,
Reality check here folks. The SVFC had about 17K people last year w/ Fresno St v UCLA.
They are on life-support and may not last another year.
I'm excited about the 3 bowls, but I cautiously suggest tempering the enthusiasm for future years.
Sounds like Chryst sold BG to the SVB regardless of what happens in their game with Toledo.
Basically, the outcome of the game next Tuesday night will be to eliminate either Northern or Toledo. As an NIU fan, it would suck to finish ahead of BG in the standings, defeat them head to head and watch them go to a bowl game, but I suppose Chryst had to deal the best card in his hand in order to get the SVB to agree to a deal.
niu79 Wrote:Sounds like Chryst sold BG to the SVB regardless of what happens in their game with Toledo.
Basically, the outcome of the game next Tuesday night will be to eliminate either Northern or Toledo. As an NIU fan, it would suck to finish ahead of BG in the standings, defeat them head to head and watch them go to a bowl game, but I suppose Chryst had to deal the best card in his hand in order to get the SVB to agree to a deal.
Fair enough. But, I'd be just as peeved to see Miami (OH) go, when they'd likely have a worse record and attendance.
A 4th bowl isn't out of the question depending on this weekend's results.........not likely maybe, but a realistic. (say, 30% chance?)
ex Cincy Kid Wrote:A 4th bowl isn't out of the question depending on this weekend's results.........not likely maybe, but a realistic. (say, 30% chance?)
I totally agree.
Vandelay Wrote:If UT beats BG, Toledo to MCB, Miami to GMAC and most likely BG to SVB. NIU may be SOL here folks.
Wow. That surprises me.
DrTorch Wrote:Kit-Cat Wrote:Vandelay Wrote:SVB and MAC are talking about making the MAC a full time partner with that bowl, thus, they would have a choice in the future to take a MAC#3 or lower PAC 10 team. Indy Bowl still being talked about - no news there other than it's still "on the shelf with a pulse."
I've kind of wondered if it would be viable having the MAC champ square off against the WAC champ in a bowl, maybe the SVB.
What part of "California Bowl" do you not understand?
Well said, Torch.
Regular season attendance is not the be all and end all in determining bowl games. In fact, it means next to nothing unless the bowl game is being played at your home field. Neither is a game in the third week of the season. History has something to do with it. Sadly for NIU, they have no football history to hang there hat on other than one bowl game 20 years ago.
Also, BG is much more marketable at this point because of Omar and our offense.
Of course 20,000+ fans at the MCB last year doesn't hurt too much either.
Redwingtom Wrote:Regular season attendance is not the be all and end all in determining bowl games. In fact, it means next to nothing unless the bowl game is being played at your home field. Neither is a game in the third week of the season. History has something to do with it. Sadly for NIU, they have no football history to hang there hat on other than one bowl game 20 years ago.
Also, BG is much more marketable at this point because of Omar and our offense.
Of course 20,000+ fans at the MCB last year doesn't hurt too much either.
Then why do pundits argue that the non-BCS conference don't deserve games because they don't have the "followings" of BCS conference teams?
And if our lousy history actually had anything to do with anything, we wouldn't have been ranked despite basically only beating BG this year. I know what you're saying as far as a potential draw, but I think you're closer to the truth in saying that BG is an exciting team to watch.
Of course, that BG O wasn't that exciting that night in DeKalb.
