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I called my contacts at both UB and Miami today to offer my sincere condolences on the blatant NCAA snub. I also asked them if they had any contact with the NCAA Selection Committee after the 'hosing. They both stated that there was an informal conference call where you could ask questions. According to the committee, the reason why we got just one bid was "there were too many MAC teams alike and we could not differentiate between them."

What the f#@% kind of response is that?

What a total cop-out?

So instead of picking Buffalo and upsetting Miami, or picking Miami and having UB feel slighted, why not just pick UAB, Iowa, Stanford and Northern Iowa. Hey, that will be the right thing to do. What a bunch of total morons with their own agenda. Notice how the PAC 10, CrapUSA, and the Missouri Valley all have reps on the committee, and the committee chairman just happens to be the AD at Iowa. What a total joke.

This Selection Committee is extremely corrupt and bias. I will not be watching any tourney game this year (other than Ohio's) for the first time in nearly 30 years. That response is sickening.


:mad:
I am behind you all the way. One question. Is there a place that MAC basketball fans can send their concerns to so that their voices are heard? We cannot take this lying down or it will likely happen again next year.
I'm totally with you Vandelay! A sports talk guy out of Cleveland Kenny Roda, today was talking about the MAC getting shafted. One of his callers made a great point. That is the MAC should take the NCAA selection committee to court. The selection process is too subjective. It needs to be objective. People will still complain, but at least the reasons for exclusion would be legitamate. Go Bobcats, eat Gator!
Exactly, no whining about it. Give us a logical explanation why Miami and Buffalo should not be allowed in and we will swallow our pride. Their situations could easily be OHIO's situation next year! :mad:
Head of the commitee is Iowa AD. All but one Iowa D1 school (Drake) gets in. The other 3 could easily be left out Iowa, ISU and N. Iowa. Something smells.
Vandelay Wrote:According to the committee, the reason why we got just one bid was "there were too many MAC teams alike and we could not differentiate between them."
I guess in a way bopol's theory was on-point after all.

I am speechless.
FalconFan1999 Wrote:A sports talk guy out of Cleveland Kenny Roda, today was talking about the MAC getting shafted.
That was definitely the theme today in the Ohio media.

In the Columbus Dispatch, Terry O'Shea took time to mention how badly he felt about Buffalo and Miami getting snubbed:

<a href='http://www.dispatch.com/mayhem/mayhem.php?story=dispatch/2005/03/14/20050314-D1-05.html' target='_blank'>http://www.dispatch.com/mayhem/mayhem.php?...0314-D1-05.html</a>

And the Plain Dealer devoted a whole story and parts of two others to this theme.

This was on the front of sports today:

<a href='http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1110796327287090.xml' target='_blank'>http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindeale...96327287090.xml</a>

The snub theme also worked its way into this short piece on the MAC's NIT bids:

<a href='http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1110796382287090.xml' target='_blank'>http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindeale...96382287090.xml</a>

It even made it into this Q&A piece:

<a href='http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/111080132099850.xml' target='_blank'>http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindeale...80132099850.xml</a>

Quoting here:

Q: Which team in the field should have been left out?

A: Iowa doesn't belong. The seedings say the Hawkeyes weren't the last at-large team taken, because they are a No. 10, and UCLA, Northern Iowa and Alabama-Birmingham each was a No. 11. That's ridiculous, considering those three No. 11s were all well-over .500 in their leagues and Iowa was 7-9 in the sixth-rated RPI conference, the Big Ten. Iowa in and no at-large teams from the Mid-American Conference? Sheer blasphemy. Iowa in and Indiana -- which finished three games ahead of the Hawkeyes in the Big Ten standings -- not included? Don't tell me that Iowa Athletic Director Bob Bowlsby being the head of the Selection Committee played no role. Bowlsby and his cohorts should be ashamed.


So, I guess the bright side is this: The attention the MAC is getting because of the NCAA tournament's lack of attention is refreshing. A few years ago, Dick Vitale would have been a lone voice in the wilderness singing our praises. Ohio media seem to be very much on the same message today.
Vandelay Wrote:This Selection Committee is extremely corrupt and bias. I will not be watching any tourney game this year (other than Ohio's) for the first time in nearly 30 years. That response is sickening.


:mad:
So what else is new with the BCS? :mad:
Isn't a member of the MAC going to be on the Selection Committee next year? If so...I'll bet we get at least 2 teams in from then on.
More agonizing from the Akron Beacon Journal:

<a href='http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/sports/11131028.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/spor...ts/11131028.htm</a>

And from the Associated Press:

<a href='http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7183548/' target='_blank'>http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7183548/</a>
What a load of crap. :mad:

I'm with you Nick. For the first time that I can recall I have no enthusiasm for this year's NCAA tourney. This was the most blatant snubbing I have ever seen. Let's hope Kennedy has some impact on the Committee next year. Sad...but that's what it takes apparently.
I firmly believe one of the reasons the MAC did not get multiple bids is because less time and energy was spent by the committee researching the MAC schools compared to schools in the MVC, CUSA, WAC, etc. When only a few slots remained, the committee knew more about the teams in these others conferences and their strengths, and all they knew about Miami and Buffalo were their failings.


BTW, I accidently posted this on another thread, sorry for making you read twice.
And that's a load of crap IULurker. You should hear what people on the inside are saying in private. Essentially, Bob Bowlsby went to bat for his boys.
BeatWestern Wrote:And that's a load of crap IULurker. You should hear what people on the inside are saying in private. Essentially, Bob Bowlsby went to bat for his boys.
And while sports columnists wag their fingers before moving on, Iowa's state university system is pocketing millions of dollars.
Two things:

First, note to MAC A.D.'s.... put more effort into lobbying for you teams. I didn't sense their was a lot of lobbying being done for an At-large. The selection committee isn't going to seek out MAC info... the MAC needs to spoon feed it down their throats.

Second, I feel good about a second bid next year. Typically, an injustice to a team/conference is often made up the next year.
No, if the MVC gets three, then the MAC deserves three. Next year, the MAC will have representation at the table along with the MVC.
The MAC is quickly becoming the My A** Complains conference. I really don't think the MAC deserved multiple teams. Teams did not play up to their level. That's why Ohio won in the first place. Buffalo blew a 19-point lead. Miami blew games, too. If you can't win at Marshall, maybe you should be forced to win your conference tournament to get in. Let's not deny the conference tournament really is an extention of the NCAA Tournament. You just get a second chance based on your credibility with the selection committee.

Although I will say winning the regular-season conference title should mean more than it does.
brahmag Wrote:The MAC is quickly becoming the My A** Complains conference. I really don't think the MAC deserved multiple teams. Teams did not play up to their level. That's why Ohio won in the first place. Buffalo blew a 19-point lead. Miami blew games, too. If you can't win at Marshall, maybe you should be forced to win your conference tournament to get in. Let's not deny the conference tournament really is an extention of the NCAA Tournament. You just get a second chance based on your credibility with the selection committee.

Although I will say winning the regular-season conference title should mean more than it does.
you reek of ignorance, get out of here
brahmag Wrote:The MAC is quickly becoming the My A** Complains conference. I really don't think the MAC deserved multiple teams. Teams did not play up to their level. That's why Ohio won in the first place. Buffalo blew a 19-point lead. Miami blew games, too. If you can't win at Marshall, maybe you should be forced to win your conference tournament to get in. Let's not deny the conference tournament really is an extention of the NCAA Tournament. You just get a second chance based on your credibility with the selection committee.

Although I will say winning the regular-season conference title should mean more than it does.
The only reason Buffalo had that 19 point lead is because they shot the lights out with 71% shooting in the first half. Ohio brought its C game and beat Buffalo just like they had two other times this season.

I agree the MAC didn't deserve 3 bids. The MAC was only rated 10th and hardly above the MWC and the WAC. Nevada and Utah were more deserving than Miami and Buffalo. St. Mary's was more deserving. Pacific was more deserving.

The only school that was arguably less deserving that made it was Northern Iowa. UNI had better stats than Buffalo and Miami plus played in a better league.

Buffalo and Miami close but no cigar.
Shrakkrocket Wrote:
brahmag Wrote:The MAC is quickly becoming the My A** Complains conference. I really don't think the MAC deserved multiple teams. Teams did not play up to their level. That's why Ohio won in the first place. Buffalo blew a 19-point lead. Miami blew games, too. If you can't win at Marshall, maybe you should be forced to win your conference tournament to get in. Let's not deny the conference tournament really is an extention of the NCAA Tournament. You just get a second chance based on your credibility with the selection committee.

Although I will say winning the regular-season conference title should mean more than it does.
you reek of ignorance, get out of here
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