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No surprise that UB is last.....but that will change in the years to come.
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No surprise that UB is last.....but that will change in the years to come.
I always assumed that the revolving door of Hofher's assistants had to do with job security- they lose their job when Hofher loses his- or maybe a personality thing or frustration with the program.
I never thought about the money. Silly me. It also gives me a little more sympathy for Hofher since he has less to work with other programs.
Then again, I think Urban Meyer could walk in and turn around UB in a season or two.
To retain and attract quality football coaches, you need to pay them a decent salary. I would hope that this number increases over the next few years.
The most interesting thing about these figures to me is the wide difference in recruiting budgets. They range from 126,000 up to BG's 450,000 and Miami's almost 500,000. Can the disparity really be that large?
Of course, there may be some very different "accounting" practices involved here.
As a BG fan, it does seem to me that recruiting, especially in football, has changed significantly over the last 3-4 years. The most recent football class at BG has recruits from something like 13 states.
Can someone spell out exactly what the costs involved in recruiting are? I'm thinking that travel costs for both coaches and prospects, telephone bills, expenses for "entertaining" prospects on campus would be part of the costs. But can someone give a detailed picture of what is included in recruiting budgets? For example, would it include summer camps?
Santa Fe Falcon Wrote:The most recent football class at BG has recruits from something like 13 states.
I count 11 -- Nine kids from Ohio, four from Michigan, three from Illinois, two from Florida and one each from: Louisiana, Virginia, South Carolina, Alaska, Arizona, Indiana and Pennsylvania
This shows who are the top programs in the MAC. Putting your $$$ behind your coaches tells the alumni that they commited toward a winning tradition. Spending $$$ on coaches and recruiting will give you a shot. I really don't blame UB for being a little cheap. They have struggled most years in most sports. If you want to contend every year you need to fork over the benjamins. Toledo, BGSU, Miami, and Ohio are spending some major cash. Lets look at the results: Toledo football champs, BGSU bowl game, Miami bowl game, NIT bid and regular season hoops title and baseball champs, and Ohio MAc Tourneyment champs and NCAA automatic bids in hoops.
You get what you pay for in the MAC. And Ohio has the top paid coaches in their sports in the MAC. :)
BG also recruits heavily for hockey which can take you to some far flung places like British Columbia in Canada. I imagine that that will add a bit to our budget.
Quote:You get what you pay for in the MAC. And Ohio has the top paid coaches in their sports in the MAC.
Not according to the figures in the Buffalo News article... Ohio is 10th in overall average head coaching salary. Which likely means that there's a lot of non-revenue sport coaches in Athens missing their annual raises in order to pay O'Shea and Solich...
Yes, and so far, O'Shea has had one above average season and Solich has had none. I'd say the jury is still out at OU.
BGFan Wrote:BG also recruits heavily for hockey which can take you to some far flung places like British Columbia in Canada. I imagine that that will add a bit to our budget.
That's a great point -- we have something like eight to ten British Columbians on the team, and more on the way...
I wonder what the disparity in Pay is for a male coach vs. a woman coach at OU considering the football coach and basketball head coaches make more then 1 million dollars a year.
Mens basketball and football are the two big revenue sports for almost every university. Those sports are on tv and the alumni who write the checks care about. All other sports are a distant second. How many posts on this board are about womens field hockey? Football and basketball are it. We live and die with every game in those two sports. Nothing against women sports, but the reality is that college football and mens college basketball are the best two sports period. They beat out the NBA, MLB, and the NFL. Ohio State outdraws the Browns and Bengals every week, every year. Same in Michigan vs the Lions.
Santa Fe Falcon Wrote:The most interesting thing about these figures to me is the wide difference in recruiting budgets. They range from 126,000 up to BG's 450,000 and Miami's almost 500,000. Can the disparity really be that large?
Of course, there may be some very different "accounting" practices involved here.
As a BG fan, it does seem to me that recruiting, especially in football, has changed significantly over the last 3-4 years. The most recent football class at BG has recruits from something like 13 states.
Can someone spell out exactly what the costs involved in recruiting are? I'm thinking that travel costs for both coaches and prospects, telephone bills, expenses for "entertaining" prospects on campus would be part of the costs. But can someone give a detailed picture of what is included in recruiting budgets? For example, would it include summer camps?
Most of our recruiting is within a days drive which keeps our recruiting costs fairly low.
I was also noticing that for the most part that the Ohio teams had the most recruiting costs. I assume that is because of all the competition in Ohio that it requires more travel farther to sucessfully recruit.
If the MAC is to grow, this is one of the things it must improve on. One reason for Marshall's demise (and yes we could get into a long list) is the fact success led most of their good assistant coaches to greener pastures. Without good coaching a MAC school cannot succeed because quality coaching is what closes the gap on BCS schools.
RobertN Wrote:I was also noticing that for the most part that the Ohio teams had the most recruiting costs. I assume that is because of all the competition in Ohio that it requires more travel farther to sucessfully recruit.
The two schools at the top of the list both play ice hockey programs, and both recruit Canada.
I think BGFan may have been onto something with his hockey comment... althought it doesn't fully explain Western Michigan, the MAC's other hockey school.
Here are links to the MAC hockey rosters:
<a href='http://bgsufalcons.collegesports.com/sports/m-hockey/mtt/bgu-m-hockey-mtt.html' target='_blank'>http://bgsufalcons.collegesports.com/sport...hockey-mtt.html</a>
<a href='http://www.wmubroncos.com/sports/hockey/roster.html' target='_blank'>http://www.wmubroncos.com/sports/hockey/roster.html</a>
<a href='http://muredhawks.collegesports.com/sports/m-hockey/mtt/mioh-m-hockey-mtt.html' target='_blank'>http://muredhawks.collegesports.com/sports...hockey-mtt.html</a>