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Its become nationally known. Larry Browns gotta be losing credibility w/the refs, all he does is whine. Great coach but he didn't invent the game as he thinks he did. Carolina sucks too.
What a whiny biatch.

How about you make sure your team doesn't get run out of the gym again, instead of complaining?

Go Spurs.
Whining or not, this is a pretty interesting statement:

Brown declined to elaborate, but postseason box scores show Detroit is 1-7 when either Ron Garretson or Dan Crawford has officiated its games and 11-1 when neither has been on the court.


I am not saying whether or not Detroit is whining or whether or not the officiating has been good or bad......I am just saying those are interesting numbers.
rocketfootball Wrote:Whining or not, this is a pretty interesting statement:

Brown declined to elaborate, but postseason box scores show Detroit is 1-7 when either Ron Garretson or Dan Crawford has officiated its games and 11-1 when neither has been on the court.


I am not saying whether or not Detroit is whining or whether or not the officiating has been good or bad......I am just saying those are interesting numbers.
Now that is interesting.

I wonder who is officiating tonite?

Something else to think about. The Pistons did get called for fewer fouls during the regular season than any other team in the NBA (2.6 fewer).

I'm probably the biggest of Piston fans out there. But even with some bad calls that have gone against them, they have flat just lost their composure in the 4th quarter of both games in S.A.

Both games they manage to get the lead down to single digits in the 4th quarter. Then they miss an opportunity to get a rebound to dwindle the lead even more and S.A. just completely bury them.

S.A. has clearly been the better team.
rocketfootball Wrote:Whining or not, this is a pretty interesting statement:

Brown declined to elaborate, but postseason box scores show Detroit is 1-7 when either Ron Garretson or Dan Crawford has officiated its games and 11-1 when neither has been on the court.


I am not saying whether or not Detroit is whining or whether or not the officiating has been good or bad......I am just saying those are interesting numbers.
I guess Larry Brown is trying to be clever.

Create a conspiracy theory instead of admiting that your team can't hold a candle to the Spurs.
The Knight Time Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:Whining or not, this is a pretty interesting statement:

Brown declined to elaborate, but postseason box scores show Detroit is 1-7 when either Ron Garretson or Dan Crawford has officiated its games and 11-1 when neither has been on the court.


I am not saying whether or not Detroit is whining or whether or not the officiating has been good or bad......I am just saying those are interesting numbers.
I guess Larry Brown is trying to be clever.

Create a conspiracy theory instead of admiting that your team can't hold a candle to the Spurs.
They are interesting numbers no matter how you try to spin it. The first two games of this series the Pistons played terrible and would have lost no matter how the officiating was. However, The Spurs aren't GOD almighty. During the regular season the two teams split victories, both teams winning at home.

Your constant degrading of the Pistons because of the soreness you felt when they beat Miami is much like your constant smack talk of the MAC. You are close-minded and think that anyone that doesn't see things exactly as you do is a jerk.


I don't think any Piston fan, or anyone else that has watched the first two games, will deny that the Spurs totally dominated those games and beat Detroit bad. However, those kinds of games do happen and especially when the one team isn't playing well. Look at Game 6 against the Heat in Detroit. The Pistons totally dominated that game, no question about it. Then Detroit went into Miami and won game 7 on the road.......something that hasn't happened in the Eastern Conference in over 20 years. That doesn't mean that the Heat couldn't hold a candle to the Pistons.
If anyone is acting like a whining little b*atch it's definitely KnightTime. He's always b*tching about something.

Doves being release at the MJ trail to his inability to be funny, he's always complaining.

P.S.

The Pistons turn it around tonite.
Obviously some ref crews call a game tight and others let stuff go.
rocketfootball Wrote:I don't think any Piston fan, or anyone else that has watched the first two games, will deny that the Spurs totally dominated those games and beat Detroit bad. However, those kinds of games do happen and especially when the one team isn't playing well. Look at Game 6 against the Heat in Detroit. The Pistons totally dominated that game, no question about it. Then Detroit went into Miami and won game 7 on the road.......something that hasn't happened in the Eastern Conference in over 20 years. That doesn't mean that the Heat couldn't hold a candle to the Pistons.
Then why even bring up the officiating? It's deflecting the attention from the fact that Brown's boys have given up on him and his "do as I say, not as I do" schtick, and they're getting it handed to 'em. It's a shame, because I thought this would be a far better series.
rocketfootball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:Whining or not, this is a pretty interesting statement:

Brown declined to elaborate, but postseason box scores show Detroit is 1-7 when either Ron Garretson or Dan Crawford has officiated its games and 11-1 when neither has been on the court.


I am not saying whether or not Detroit is whining or whether or not the officiating has been good or bad......I am just saying those are interesting numbers.
I guess Larry Brown is trying to be clever.

Create a conspiracy theory instead of admiting that your team can't hold a candle to the Spurs.
They are interesting numbers no matter how you try to spin it. The first two games of this series the Pistons played terrible and would have lost no matter how the officiating was. However, The Spurs aren't GOD almighty. During the regular season the two teams split victories, both teams winning at home.

Your constant degrading of the Pistons because of the soreness you felt when they beat Miami is much like your constant smack talk of the MAC. You are close-minded and think that anyone that doesn't see things exactly as you do is a jerk.


I don't think any Piston fan, or anyone else that has watched the first two games, will deny that the Spurs totally dominated those games and beat Detroit bad. However, those kinds of games do happen and especially when the one team isn't playing well. Look at Game 6 against the Heat in Detroit. The Pistons totally dominated that game, no question about it. Then Detroit went into Miami and won game 7 on the road.......something that hasn't happened in the Eastern Conference in over 20 years. That doesn't mean that the Heat couldn't hold a candle to the Pistons.
Hey dumb******, I'm not a Heat fan. I could care less about Miami. I'm not from South Florida and don't like any of their teams.

I don't like the Pistons for a few reasons A) The "brawl" this year B ) Rasheed Wallace C) The CONSISTENT whining on and off the court by team and coach

I'm just tired of Pistons' coaches and fans alike blaming the officials for their losses. And it happens ALOT.
HiddenDragon Wrote:If anyone is acting like a whining little b*atch it's definitely KnightTime. He's always b*tching about something.

Doves being release at the MJ trail to his inability to be funny, he's always complaining.

P.S.

The Pistons turn it around tonite.
Spoken like a sore loser.

Anonymous

Pistons need to shut there mouths and play ball. They are a championship team, they need to realize that and play like it.
Historically speaking their is a great discontent by the Floridians above Palm Beach county towards south florida. As a south floridian most of it is justified. Not many fans of Miami teams reside in Orlando unless past SoFla residents. Especially since bball and football expansion.

One of the greatest lines after Tampa Bay coached by John McKay started out was "throw McKay in the bay". Especially after questioned by a reporter about the teams execution and he responded " I'm all for it".
The Crawford / Garretson thing doesn't surprise me. I've long wondered if those two have something against the Pistons, because they've been involved in numerous controversial calls against Detroit in the past two-three seasons (maybe longer; that's just as far back as I can recall noticing). It's not even necessarily calling a tight game, either, because sometimes it's non-calls that are the issue.

Mind you, I'm not necessarily saying there's a conspiracy, here. Maybe it's as simple as a pet peeve, something Detroit does that those refs don't like, or maybe there are some personalities on the Pistons that rub those guys the wrong way (or vice-versa). All that same, if those two officials are not on the court for another Detroit game, I won't cry about it. 03-banghead

As for the past two games, the Pistons seem tired to me, both mentally and physically. Maybe those tough, physical series against Indiana and Miami have caught up to them, because Detroit normally wins with grit, hustle, and stifling defense. San Antonio has displayed those things, while the Pistons seem a step slow in the second half of both games. These teams are pretty evenly matched, with the Spurs' only advantage being scoring off the bench. In front of the home crowd, I believe Detroit's energy level will be higher tonight, and I see us taking at least two of three games at home.

As a final commentary on the officiating, it is part of Larry's job to gripe about the officiating, especially when it seems biased. TNT and ABC announcers have both commented about "homer" calls being prevalent in this years' playoffs, so outside parties are noticing problems, also. At the same time, I'm sure Larry is telling his guys to just shut up and play, because that's what he's done in the past.
HuskieDan Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:I don't think any Piston fan, or anyone else that has watched the first two games, will deny that the Spurs totally dominated those games and beat Detroit bad.&nbsp; However, those kinds of games do happen and especially when the one team isn't playing well.&nbsp; Look at Game 6 against the Heat in Detroit.&nbsp; The Pistons totally dominated that game, no question about it.&nbsp; Then Detroit went into Miami and won game 7 on the road.......something that hasn't happened in the Eastern Conference in over 20 years.&nbsp; That doesn't mean that the Heat couldn't hold a candle to the Pistons.
Then why even bring up the officiating? It's deflecting the attention from the fact that Brown's boys have given up on him and his "do as I say, not as I do" schtick, and they're getting it handed to 'em. It's a shame, because I thought this would be a far better series.
I didn't bring it up. In fact, this thread was started by someone that has season tickets for the Miami Heat. :withstupid:
The Knight Time Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:Whining or not, this is a pretty interesting statement:

Brown declined to elaborate, but postseason box scores show Detroit is 1-7 when either Ron Garretson or Dan Crawford has officiated its games and 11-1 when neither has been on the court.


I am not saying whether or not Detroit is whining or whether or not the officiating has been good or bad......I am just saying those are interesting numbers.
I guess Larry Brown is trying to be clever.

Create a conspiracy theory instead of admiting that your team can't hold a candle to the Spurs.
They are interesting numbers no matter how you try to spin it. The first two games of this series the Pistons played terrible and would have lost no matter how the officiating was. However, The Spurs aren't GOD almighty. During the regular season the two teams split victories, both teams winning at home.

Your constant degrading of the Pistons because of the soreness you felt when they beat Miami is much like your constant smack talk of the MAC. You are close-minded and think that anyone that doesn't see things exactly as you do is a jerk.


I don't think any Piston fan, or anyone else that has watched the first two games, will deny that the Spurs totally dominated those games and beat Detroit bad. However, those kinds of games do happen and especially when the one team isn't playing well. Look at Game 6 against the Heat in Detroit. The Pistons totally dominated that game, no question about it. Then Detroit went into Miami and won game 7 on the road.......something that hasn't happened in the Eastern Conference in over 20 years. That doesn't mean that the Heat couldn't hold a candle to the Pistons.
Hey dumb******, I'm not a Heat fan. I could care less about Miami. I'm not from South Florida and don't like any of their teams.

I don't like the Pistons for a few reasons A) The "brawl" this year B ) Rasheed Wallace C) The CONSISTENT whining on and off the court by team and coach

I'm just tired of Pistons' coaches and fans alike blaming the officials for their losses. And it happens ALOT.
Very mature post. I like the namecalling. Sorry if I labeled you as a Heat fan when you aren't, but you sure seemed to be pulling for the Heat in the last round and seeing that your are a fan of a school in Florida it is pretty easy to understand how someone would think you were a Miami Heat fan.

Guest

The Knight Time Wrote:
HiddenDragon Wrote:If anyone is acting like a whining little b*atch it's definitely KnightTime.&nbsp; He's always b*tching about something.

Doves being release at the MJ trail to his inability to be funny, he's always complaining.

P.S.

The Pistons turn it around tonite.
Spoken like a sore loser.
Spoken like a true little whiney ***** who has lost his way.
Oddball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
HiddenDragon Wrote:If anyone is acting like a whining little b*atch it's definitely KnightTime.&nbsp; He's always b*tching about something.

Doves being release at the MJ trail to his inability to be funny, he's always complaining.

P.S.

The Pistons turn it around tonite.
Spoken like a sore loser.
Spoken like a true little whiney ***** who has lost his way.
Spoken like a sore loser #2.

:wave:

0-3 tonight?

Guest

The Knight Time Wrote:
Oddball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
HiddenDragon Wrote:If anyone is acting like a whining little b*atch it's definitely KnightTime.&nbsp; He's always b*tching about something.

Doves being release at the MJ trail to his inability to be funny, he's always complaining.

P.S.

The Pistons turn it around tonite.
Spoken like a sore loser.
Spoken like a true little whiney ***** who has lost his way.
Spoken like a sore loser #2.

:wave:

0-3 tonight?
It will sting a bit if the Pistons continue to lose, but I'll get over it after some time. You, on the other hand, will remain a *****. :wave:
Oddball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
Oddball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
HiddenDragon Wrote:If anyone is acting like a whining little b*atch it's definitely KnightTime.&nbsp; He's always b*tching about something.

Doves being release at the MJ trail to his inability to be funny, he's always complaining.

P.S.

The Pistons turn it around tonite.
Spoken like a sore loser.
Spoken like a true little whiney ***** who has lost his way.
Spoken like a sore loser #2.

:wave:

0-3 tonight?
It will sting a bit if the Pistons continue to lose, but I'll get over it after some time. You, on the other hand, will remain a *****. :wave:
Whatever you say!

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