(04-04-2024 10:42 AM)former guest Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 09:41 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 09:37 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 08:52 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 08:34 AM)Claw Wrote:  If he makes the playoffs and wins a game the university makes 7.35 million when he leaves.

Are you sure?

There are usually 2 different buyouts. One amount if we want to fire him. That amount has tended to be slightly less than the amount remaining on his contract. The other buyout is if he leaves for another job. That buyout has tended to be much less - like $500k-$1M.

I figure the $7M is the firing buyout - and not the hiring buyout. But I could be wrong.

I'm not at all sure. Anyone?

It says in the article. His buyout if he leaves us for another job isn't even enough to cover a nice meal at Taco Bell. $7M is if we fire him. We are really bad at contracts.

Maybe, but his agent must also be really good at contracts....

His agent has out-negotiated every AD in the SouthEast and most in the country

People who say this is a bad contract don't see other coach's contracts--

They are probably the same people who say that profesional athelete are overpaid and that they should all be on incentve laden contracts

Call the agent's bluff. At least on this one. Where is he going to go?

(04-04-2024 10:42 AM)former guest Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 09:41 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 09:37 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 08:52 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 08:34 AM)Claw Wrote:  If he makes the playoffs and wins a game the university makes 7.35 million when he leaves.

Are you sure?

There are usually 2 different buyouts. One amount if we want to fire him. That amount has tended to be slightly less than the amount remaining on his contract. The other buyout is if he leaves for another job. That buyout has tended to be much less - like $500k-$1M.

I figure the $7M is the firing buyout - and not the hiring buyout. But I could be wrong.

I'm not at all sure. Anyone?

It says in the article. His buyout if he leaves us for another job isn't even enough to cover a nice meal at Taco Bell. $7M is if we fire him. We are really bad at contracts.

Maybe, but his agent must also be really good at contracts....

The U of M has had great success using Eastman and Beaudean in Plano, TX to hire head football coaches. I would figure that plays a factor in being concerned about any head coach leaving. If it was me, I would call them to see if they think filling the job here would be a problem or not and use that information to determine my negotiations with Silverfield. In negotiations, information is very important. I am a graduate of the Dr. Karrass negotiation course and spent some time as a professional negotiator.

Apparently it was a three year extension. From the DM: His previous contract, which was scheduled to end following the 2025 season... Now he is under contract thru 2028.

(04-04-2024 11:15 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Call the agent's bluff. At least on this one. Where is he going to go?

Maybe part of the negotiations was that Silverfield did have one of more offers and the agent used that as a bargaining tool to get Silverfield this deal. Offers could be college or NFL. If I was his agent, I would use that in my negotiations to get him a better contract. Why not? No one knows what took place in the negotiations unless the parties agree to tell us. If we want to keep Silverfield, which apparently we do, why would you go down that path? Veatch knows how much money he has to work with. For all we know, that contract was for less than what the U of M was willing to pay.

(04-04-2024 01:25 PM)hammer595 Wrote:  Apparently it was a three year extension. From the DM: His previous contract, which was scheduled to end following the 2025 season... Now he is under contract thru 2028.

That's what I was going by, calling it an extension. But as another poster pointed out, the entire deal was restructured so it's technically a new contract.

I set a really high regular season bar for Silverfield last year: 10-2 and playing in the CCG. He did neither of those things but he came reasonably close at 9-3. The problem was the 4th place finish in the league. He did beat a 7-5 Iowa State team in the Liberty Bowl which was good.

I absolutely think he deserved to be back with maybe 3 years in front of him - what with negative recruiting and all - but the 5 year extension seems a bit much. I am not aware that other schools were beating down the doors trying to hire him away; however if he has another 10 win season there will probably be 'strong ass' offers coming his way.

The new five year contract will mean exactly nothing if one of the big boys comes calling.

Looking at next year's team it appears that a banner year is to be expected. The leagues champion is off the the ACC and Tulane has lost Fritz.

Barring a dark horse, the race should come down to Memphis, UTSA, and a rising USF. If there is ever a year for Silverfield to win the conference it was last season with a VERY favorable conf schedule or this year. Last season all the 'tough' games were at home and the Tigers lost to both Tulane and SMU while entirely dodging UTSA - we saw how that went.

So, Silverfield is down to this season with the ink still drying on his brand new five year contract. The following year there will be a new QB so who knows how that will turn out?

There were reasons to give Silverfield the new contract and there were reasons not to. If this is a great year he will likely move on up, if this is an average or even poor season he will likely be back but his seat will be pretty warm.

The new reality of college football isn't really all that new. There were 6 access bowls with 12 spots snd the G5 got 1. Now, there is a 12 team playoff and the G5 will get 1 spot. The money gap between the haves and have nots is wider than ever.

I think the power schools are going to break away sooner rather than later and completely cut the G5 out of the top tier entirely. For all the brave words of supporting the Tigers no matter what league / tier they play in - well, we'll see how that actually plays out after the axe actually drops.

(04-05-2024 08:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I set a really high regular season bar for Silverfield last year: 10-2 and playing in the CCG. He did neither of those things but he came reasonably close at 9-3. The problem was the 4th place finish in the league. He did beat a 7-5 Iowa State team in the Liberty Bowl which was good.

I absolutely think he deserved to be back with maybe 3 years in front of him - what with negative recruiting and all - but the 5 year extension seems a bit much. I am not aware that other schools were beating down the doors trying to hire him away; however if he has another 10 win season there will probably be 'strong ass' offers coming his way.

The new five year contract will mean exactly nothing if one of the big boys comes calling.

Looking at next year's team it appears that a banner year is to be expected. The leagues champion is off the the ACC and Tulane has lost Fritz.

Barring a dark horse, the race should come down to Memphis, UTSA, and a rising USF. If there is ever a year for Silverfield to win the conference it was last season with a VERY favorable conf schedule or this year. Last season all the 'tough' games were at home and the Tigers lost to both Tulane and SMU while entirely dodging UTSA - we saw how that went.

So, Silverfield is down to this season with the ink still drying on his brand new five year contract. The following year there will be a new QB so who knows how that will turn out?

There were reasons to give Silverfield the new contract and there were reasons not to. If this is a great year he will likely move on up, if this is an average or even poor season he will likely be back but his seat will be pretty warm.

The new reality of college football isn't really all that new. There were 6 access bowls with 12 spots snd the G5 got 1. Now, there is a 12 team playoff and the G5 will get 1 spot. The money gap between the haves and have nots is wider than ever.

I think the power schools are going to break away sooner rather than later and completely cut the G5 out of the top tier entirely. For all the brave words of supporting the Tigers no matter what league / tier they play in - well, we'll see how that actually plays out after the axe actually drops.

USF has the potential to be really good. LOTS of athletes!!

As what Hammer595 alluded to, Silverfield had two years left on his deal (expire after 2025). Memphis should've stayed pat on contract situations over this offseason and enter the 2024 season as a "prove it" year (which is what I thought the 2023 season was supposed to be). If Silverfield couldn't make to the AAC championship game again this December, then you let him go and pay out the remainder of the contract. If he does well and exceed expectations, then you give him a new contract. If he does well, but does not exceed expectations (basically 2023 over again), then Silverfield can use that "9-3 but finish 4th in the AAC" and go somewhere else.

What sucks is that Memphis lost all of their leverage.

Glad RS got a "new contract." Anyone who can keep a 4th year starting QB has to be doing something right. Hoping for much success this coming year. We'll be rooting from somewhere on the east side. Go Tigers!

Is Silverfield a Sexton guy?

(04-05-2024 08:51 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(04-05-2024 08:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I set a really high regular season bar for Silverfield last year: 10-2 and playing in the CCG. He did neither of those things but he came reasonably close at 9-3. The problem was the 4th place finish in the league. He did beat a 7-5 Iowa State team in the Liberty Bowl which was good.

I absolutely think he deserved to be back with maybe 3 years in front of him - what with negative recruiting and all - but the 5 year extension seems a bit much. I am not aware that other schools were beating down the doors trying to hire him away; however if he has another 10 win season there will probably be 'strong ass' offers coming his way.

The new five year contract will mean exactly nothing if one of the big boys comes calling.

Looking at next year's team it appears that a banner year is to be expected. The leagues champion is off the the ACC and Tulane has lost Fritz.

Barring a dark horse, the race should come down to Memphis, UTSA, and a rising USF. If there is ever a year for Silverfield to win the conference it was last season with a VERY favorable conf schedule or this year. Last season all the 'tough' games were at home and the Tigers lost to both Tulane and SMU while entirely dodging UTSA - we saw how that went.

So, Silverfield is down to this season with the ink still drying on his brand new five year contract. The following year there will be a new QB so who knows how that will turn out?

There were reasons to give Silverfield the new contract and there were reasons not to. If this is a great year he will likely move on up, if this is an average or even poor season he will likely be back but his seat will be pretty warm.

The new reality of college football isn't really all that new. There were 6 access bowls with 12 spots snd the G5 got 1. Now, there is a 12 team playoff and the G5 will get 1 spot. The money gap between the haves and have nots is wider than ever.

I think the power schools are going to break away sooner rather than later and completely cut the G5 out of the top tier entirely. For all the brave words of supporting the Tigers no matter what league / tier they play in - well, we'll see how that actually plays out after the axe actually drops.

USF has the potential to be really good. LOTS of athletes!!

And that is something the Tigers somewhat lack.

(04-05-2024 10:55 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  Is Silverfield a Sexton guy?

Arent they all?

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(04-05-2024 11:27 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-05-2024 10:55 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  Is Silverfield a Sexton guy?

Arent they all?

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The man does his job that’s for sure.

Who knew that being roommates with Reggie White would make a lucrative career

(04-05-2024 11:17 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(04-05-2024 08:51 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(04-05-2024 08:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I set a really high regular season bar for Silverfield last year: 10-2 and playing in the CCG. He did neither of those things but he came reasonably close at 9-3. The problem was the 4th place finish in the league. He did beat a 7-5 Iowa State team in the Liberty Bowl which was good.

I absolutely think he deserved to be back with maybe 3 years in front of him - what with negative recruiting and all - but the 5 year extension seems a bit much. I am not aware that other schools were beating down the doors trying to hire him away; however if he has another 10 win season there will probably be 'strong ass' offers coming his way.

The new five year contract will mean exactly nothing if one of the big boys comes calling.

Looking at next year's team it appears that a banner year is to be expected. The leagues champion is off the the ACC and Tulane has lost Fritz.

Barring a dark horse, the race should come down to Memphis, UTSA, and a rising USF. If there is ever a year for Silverfield to win the conference it was last season with a VERY favorable conf schedule or this year. Last season all the 'tough' games were at home and the Tigers lost to both Tulane and SMU while entirely dodging UTSA - we saw how that went.

So, Silverfield is down to this season with the ink still drying on his brand new five year contract. The following year there will be a new QB so who knows how that will turn out?

There were reasons to give Silverfield the new contract and there were reasons not to. If this is a great year he will likely move on up, if this is an average or even poor season he will likely be back but his seat will be pretty warm.

The new reality of college football isn't really all that new. There were 6 access bowls with 12 spots snd the G5 got 1. Now, there is a 12 team playoff and the G5 will get 1 spot. The money gap between the haves and have nots is wider than ever.

I think the power schools are going to break away sooner rather than later and completely cut the G5 out of the top tier entirely. For all the brave words of supporting the Tigers no matter what league / tier they play in - well, we'll see how that actually plays out after the axe actually drops.

USF has the potential to be really good. LOTS of athletes!!

And that is something the Tigers somewhat lack.

Huh?

Clown thread.

(04-05-2024 04:51 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Clown thread.

And then there are the lobotomy comments that seem to be coming up more frequently on this board. Drugs, alcohol.......not sure but it is noticeable.

(04-04-2024 09:28 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(04-03-2024 01:09 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  

(04-03-2024 10:34 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-03-2024 10:24 AM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  Congratulations to Silverfield! And kudos to everyone who will watch mediocre football inside the Liberty Bowl for the next 5 years!

Man, we have a lazy athletic department

Do you think we deserve better?

Yes? If you're fine with a team that just solely focused on outscoring opponents and having let down games to Navy, Charlotte, and North Texas but escaping then go ahead.

I can careless about how many wins we had last year, and beating a disinterested Iowa State team in the Liberty Bowl, and pumping our chest because we beat a Power 4/5 Team.
Silverfield had two games that he had to win last year, and they were Tulane and SMU, and he had the benefit to have both of those games at home. And he lost them both.
He's that student that will get as many A's as he can on "smaller assignments" but when the final exam comes, he chokes and gets a C, and ends up being just an average student.

Disinterested IOWA STATE? Actually it was more like a VERY CONFIDENT IOWA STATE that felt they were going to beat lowly MEMPHIS. Read up on the details before making a statement. IOWA STATE was a 10.5 favorite going into the game with a 7-5 record. We were their second largest point spread loss that year....the same point spread loss as their game with TEXAS. Three IOWA STATE losses were by 7 points or less. We were the second highest number of points scored on them all year. Please go back and watch the highlights.

but of course that doesn't fit their narrative

(04-05-2024 10:16 AM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  As what Hammer595 alluded to, Silverfield had two years left on his deal (expire after 2025). Memphis should've stayed pat on contract situations over this offseason and enter the 2024 season as a "prove it" year (which is what I thought the 2023 season was supposed to be). If Silverfield couldn't make to the AAC championship game again this December, then you let him go and pay out the remainder of the contract. If he does well and exceed expectations, then you give him a new contract. If he does well, but does not exceed expectations (basically 2023 over again), then Silverfield can use that "9-3 but finish 4th in the AAC" and go somewhere else.

What sucks is that Memphis lost all of their leverage.

the problem is, in that scenario...recruits wanna know if the coach is gonna be around while they are there. If the guy is on a 1 yr deal with a 'prove it option'...that's code for the players that the coach is a lame duck...most likely gonna get fired. No one in their right minds would sign up for that.

(04-05-2024 09:52 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(04-05-2024 10:16 AM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  As what Hammer595 alluded to, Silverfield had two years left on his deal (expire after 2025). Memphis should've stayed pat on contract situations over this offseason and enter the 2024 season as a "prove it" year (which is what I thought the 2023 season was supposed to be). If Silverfield couldn't make to the AAC championship game again this December, then you let him go and pay out the remainder of the contract. If he does well and exceed expectations, then you give him a new contract. If he does well, but does not exceed expectations (basically 2023 over again), then Silverfield can use that "9-3 but finish 4th in the AAC" and go somewhere else.

What sucks is that Memphis lost all of their leverage.

the problem is, in that scenario...recruits wanna know if the coach is gonna be around while they are there. If the guy is on a 1 yr deal with a 'prove it option'...that's code for the players that the coach is a lame duck...most likely gonna get fired. No one in their right minds would sign up for that.

The way kids bounce in and out of the portal nowadays, is this really an issue anymore? It takes a commitment from both sides to make it work.