Is Clemson really all that? A fantastic 10 year run and a couple of good seasons a long time ago. Didn't realize they had that much clout.

(03-21-2024 04:57 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-20-2024 06:43 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Level 2 needs more than one conference. All the remaining members of the Big 12 are going to find out they are closer to G5 than P2.

Exactly. The ACC as it is today won't survive. But there will be a version of the ACC that will be better than any all-sports conference Memphis has ever been in. Even if FSU, Clemson, UNC, Virginia - even Miami and Duke - are gone. That still leaves NCSU, Ga Tech, Va Tech, Boston Coll, Syracuse, Pitt, Wake...and good ole Lousyville.

We need FSU or Clemson to win in court, and those 4-6 schools to leave.

The teams left over if any schools move to the SEC and/or Big10 teams are more likely to just get absorbed by the Big 12 or break off with the top half of the Big 12 than to pull any G5 teams into the ACC. If we are lucky we might be in a conference with the Big 12 and ACC leftovers if the top schools leave them all behind to form a new conference that will essentially put us back in the old AAC.

My suspicion is that the Big 12 will just absorb their choice of whatever is left and a couple/few ACC programs will be faced with the prospect of going to the AAC or going the route of UCONN, and we may end up in a conference with some of them that is probably on a fourth tier below the SEC/Big10, the Big 12, and then the MWC.

The PAC12 disintegrating was the single worst thing to happen to University of Memphis athletics in its history.

(03-21-2024 05:42 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Is Clemson really all that? A fantastic 10 year run and a couple of good seasons a long time ago. Didn't realize they had that much clout.

Both Clemson and FSU are less valuable than people assume that they are, and probably less valuable than their athletic departments think that they are. The big prizes in the ACC are Notre Dame (but they can just stay independent), and then Virginia and UNC. Clemson and FSU might get into the Big 10 because they want a footprint in SEC territory. They might get into SEC because they want to prevent that. There's long shot odds that like NC State or maybe Duke (real, real long shot) might end up in either conference for similar reasons.

People keep bringing up Miami, but I just don't see either conference taking them on.

(03-21-2024 06:06 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(03-21-2024 05:42 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Is Clemson really all that? A fantastic 10 year run and a couple of good seasons a long time ago. Didn't realize they had that much clout.

Both Clemson and FSU are less valuable than people assume that they are, and probably less valuable than their athletic departments think that they are. The big prizes in the ACC are Notre Dame (but they can just stay independent), and then Virginia and UNC. Clemson and FSU might get into the Big 10 because they want a footprint in SEC territory. They might get into SEC because they want to prevent that. There's long shot odds that like NC State or maybe Duke (real, real long shot) might end up in either conference for similar reasons.

People keep bringing up Miami, but I just don't see either conference taking them on.

FSU got screwed out of a playoff birth so I don't think they are valued as perceived but then again it could be due to conference affiliation.