(03-12-2024 08:02 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  AAC will go after GSU and ODU.
If Memphis goes to the ACC then MTSU will be in the mix
If GSU and ODU go to the AAC, App St, Marshall and Delaware may make a move to the MAC.

I think Memphis has a shot at both the ACC and the Big XII.

Where this gets really interesting is the next-level impact with respect to--but not limited to--the MWC. With enough exit fee money, some top AAC programs gotta be looking elsewhere, right?

(03-12-2024 08:16 PM)Eichorst Wrote:  Where this gets really interesting is the next-level impact with respect to--but not limited to--the MWC. With enough exit fee money, some top AAC programs gotta be looking elsewhere, right?

Maybe not the top programs, but definitely the western based programs.

(03-12-2024 08:18 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 08:16 PM)Eichorst Wrote:  Where this gets really interesting is the next-level impact with respect to--but not limited to--the MWC. With enough exit fee money, some top AAC programs gotta be looking elsewhere, right?

Maybe not the top programs, but definitely the western based programs.

If the MWC really wants to make a power move, they need to grab North Texas, Rice, Tulsa, and UTSA when the time is right.

(03-12-2024 07:20 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 06:25 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If the AAC loses USF to the AAC, I would strongly want Memphis to find some way to join the Mountain West (with Tulane and maybe a few other AAC members).

The AAC has lost so much (UConn, UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and, next year, SMU) At what point (and losing USF might be the breaking point — if we already aren't there) does staying in the AAC do Memphis little good? I do like the addition of Army for football, however. And if the league replaced USF with AppState ... that would be a strong switch in football. But again, and as I just posted, I doubt App would be interested.

Seems complicated to me...

On the one hand, you are right that the AAC is essentially having its guts ripped out over time... Thats what happens when you are the 'top' G5... The P5 keep picking up the programs.

On the other hand, everyone derided the AAC when it was formed. Called it a 'dumpster fire' all over these boards. Look how amazing the AAC performed over a decade. Great record versus P5, great access bowl record, and great TV dollars well above anyone else in the G5.

Could that magic happen again if the AAC gets a bit reconstituted? I think so... The AAC has (at least) 3 clear advantages. 1. Playing east, where the people are... I wouldn't want long travel westward to play late night games in smaller front range towns. 2. It's a big city, market oriented conference. Again, play where the people are and easier travel. 3. Those TV dollars... even if renegotiated, likely to stay tops in the G5.

Bottom line, for me, I wouldn't pull the trigger and run west without trying out the reincarnation of the AAC for awhile.

If USF departs the AAC, that might be the "we've had enough of this league" moment for Memphis. At that point, the university might start considering a long-term view that could involve being part of a "best of the rest" league that could exist in a few years and likely be comprised primarily of MWC members.

But I do see your point.

(03-12-2024 07:58 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 06:25 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If the AAC loses USF to the AAC, I would strongly want Memphis to find some way to join the Mountain West (with Tulane and maybe a few other AAC members).

The AAC has lost so much (UConn, UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and, next year, SMU) At what point (and losing USF might be the breaking point — if we already aren't there) does staying in the AAC do Memphis little good? I do like the addition of Army for football, however. And if the league replaced USF with AppState ... that would be a strong switch in football. But again, and as I just posted, I doubt App would be interested.

I think this is where Memphis needs to figure out what needs to be done to get a Big12 invite.

And to definitely have a Big12 plan in place, ready for if the Big10 decides to add any of the Big12 AAU schools

The Big 12 would be the best home for Memphis. Toward that end, the university is making strides toward overhauling the Liberty Bowl (a $250 million effort that is not yet a done deal as UM needs to raise $50 million to be matched by Fred Smith of FedEx).

A ticket to the big leagues may never be in the cards for Memphis. But the university is trying.

How about this option? They add NOBODY. ZERO. NADA.

And before you give me this TV inventory argument--Stop. If the AAC loses its best media values--that can't really be replaced. Why not operate a slightly smaller league and split the TWINDLING CFP money and media money fewer ways to keep conference per school income at a better level?

Connecticut - football only.

From 2024-2028, Connecticut has 3-5 power opponents scheduled but the rest is lackluster. Even the power programs aren’t all great. Their schedules are very regional, though. If they joined the American for football, they would have 4 OOC slots to fill.

/ Opponents Scheduled By Future Conference Affiliation /

2024
AAC - Florida Atlantic, Rice, Temple, UAB
ACC - Duke, Syracuse, Wake Forest
B1G - Maryland
FCS - Merrimack
MAC - Buffalo, Massachusetts
SBC - Georgia St

2025
AAC - Rice, UAB
ACC - Duke, Syracuse
B1G - Ohio St
CUSA - Delaware, Florida International
FCS - Central Connecticut St
MAC - Ball St, Buffalo, Massachusetts

2026
AAC - Florida Atlantic, Temple
ACC - Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse
B1G - Indiana, Maryland
FCS - Lafayette
MAC - Massachusetts
MWC - Wyoming
SBC - James Madison, Old Dominion

2027
AAC - Army, Temple
ACC - North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
CUSA - Delaware, Florida International, Liberty
MAC - Massachusetts
SEC - Mississippi
SBC - Old Dominion

2028
AAC - Rice, South Florida, Temple
ACC - Pittsburgh, Wake Forest
MAC - Buffalo
SEC - Mississippi

AAC's primary attraction is it has a decent TV deal, particularly much better than what CUSA has right now.

If they lose 4+ teams that AAC TV deal is history and the conference likely splits up.

(03-12-2024 11:00 PM)Garden_KC Wrote:  AAC's primary attraction is it has a decent TV deal, particularly much better than what CUSA has right now.

If they lose 4+ teams that AAC TV deal is history and the conference likely splits up.

4+? I don’t see more than 3 unless the B1G and SEC go to 22+ and the trickle down occurs. I think we see 20 each.

If the ACC loses Clemson, Florida St, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, and Virginia Tech to B1G and SEC, the ACC will be at 11/12. Let’s say they add Connecticut, Memphis, Oregon St, San Diego St, South Florida, Tulane, and Washington St for 18/19.

The AAC, now at 11/10, adds Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee St, and Western Kentucky. I don’t think they lose any to another G5. Delaware leaves CUSA for the MAC. CUSA, down to 7, reloads with: 3-5 FCS schools.

(03-12-2024 09:44 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 07:20 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 06:25 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If the AAC loses USF to the AAC, I would strongly want Memphis to find some way to join the Mountain West (with Tulane and maybe a few other AAC members).

The AAC has lost so much (UConn, UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and, next year, SMU) At what point (and losing USF might be the breaking point — if we already aren't there) does staying in the AAC do Memphis little good? I do like the addition of Army for football, however. And if the league replaced USF with AppState ... that would be a strong switch in football. But again, and as I just posted, I doubt App would be interested.

Seems complicated to me...

On the one hand, you are right that the AAC is essentially having its guts ripped out over time... Thats what happens when you are the 'top' G5... The P5 keep picking up the programs.

On the other hand, everyone derided the AAC when it was formed. Called it a 'dumpster fire' all over these boards. Look how amazing the AAC performed over a decade. Great record versus P5, great access bowl record, and great TV dollars well above anyone else in the G5.

Could that magic happen again if the AAC gets a bit reconstituted? I think so... The AAC has (at least) 3 clear advantages. 1. Playing east, where the people are... I wouldn't want long travel westward to play late night games in smaller front range towns. 2. It's a big city, market oriented conference. Again, play where the people are and easier travel. 3. Those TV dollars... even if renegotiated, likely to stay tops in the G5.

Bottom line, for me, I wouldn't pull the trigger and run west without trying out the reincarnation of the AAC for awhile.

If USF departs the AAC, that might be the "we've had enough of this league" moment for Memphis. At that point, the university might start considering a long-term view that could involve being part of a "best of the rest" league that could exist in a few years and likely be comprised primarily of MWC members.

But I do see your point.

I think that makes sense.

Especially when one considers that the AAC was mostly the remains of the BigEast (and a few from CUSA - including Memphis).

If USF leaves, how many of those original schools are left? Temple?

And, other than army, navy, and Wichita state, all of the AAC's backfill has come from CUSA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_A...p_timeline

(03-12-2024 10:15 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Connecticut - football only.
[...]

I think this is probably a very good idea - with army, navy, and Temple in the neighborhood.

And while army and navy balance each other, adding UConn fb-only, would balance Wichita state's non-fb.

By looking at the metrics used on the new ACC mbrs for 2024 (Stanford/Cal/& SMU) we can see what other teams meet these same metrics from XII & G5. The ACC Can lose 4 before they have to add 1. But some of the adds will be determined by protecting ACC Network "In-State Rates" and then new States (Like Texas & Cali) that will add In-State rate subscriptions.

METRICS
1. 3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: That is the average of the three main academic ranks (USN, SR, & THE/WSJ) between only the standardized universe of FBS schools + AAU members, then ranked among the averages. This 3-way average, among a standardized universe, is as good a broad, fair perspective as can be shown.
2. Financial Data: Sports data comes from Knight and EADA filings, all of which are directly from the school. Campus financial data is from IPEDS.
3. FB AP Times Ranked
4. 2023 DC Points (All Sports)
5. TV Market: That is available from 2023–2024 Nielsen rankings (new or not new State for ACC Network)

2024 ACC Adds

Stanford:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #3 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $1.2B
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $157M FB: $32 M MBB: $7M Olympic: $46M
FB AP Times Ranked: 303
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 1412
TV Market: San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#10)

Cal:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #16 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $2.6B
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $114M FB: $34M MBB: $8M Olympic: $29M
FB AP Times Ranked: 200
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 833
TV Market: San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#10)

SMU:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #82 ( R2)
Research Spending: $205M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $79.4M FB: $27.1M MBB: $8.1 Olympic: $25.5M
FB AP Times Ranked: 180
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 279
TV Market: Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)


XII Expansion Teams

Utah:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #62 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $625M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $91M FB: $34M MBB: $10M Olympic: $21M
FB AP Times Ranked: 162
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 741
TV Market: Salt Lake City (#27) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates)State Pop: 3.4M

Kansas:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #75.7 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $386M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $119M FB: $21M MBB: $16M Olympic: $20M
FB AP Times Ranked: 111
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 353
TV Market: Kansas City (#34) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates)State Pop: 2.9M

Oklahoma St:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #105 (R1)
Research Spending: $207M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $100M FB: $29M MBB: $12M Olympic: $23M
FB AP Times Ranked: 282
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 800
TV Market: Oklahoma City (#47) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates)State Pop: 4M

TOP G5 Programs

USF:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #79 ( R1 & AAU)
Research Spending: $405M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $62.3M FB: $18.7M MBB: $5M Olympic: $11.3M
FB AP Times Ranked: 47
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 226
TV Market: Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) (#12)

UConn:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #68 ( R1)
Research Spending: $207M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $92.5M FB: $18.4M MBB: $24M Olympic: $21.9M
FB AP Times Ranked: 6
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 252
TV Market: Hartford & New Haven (#32) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates) State Pop: 3.6M

Colorado St:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #88 ( R1)
Research Spending: $207M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $59.3M FB: $30.9M MBB: $5.2M Olympic: $10M
FB AP Times Ranked: 43
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 156
TV Market: Denver (#17) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates) State Pop: 5.8M

(03-12-2024 07:20 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 06:25 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If the AAC loses USF to the AAC, I would strongly want Memphis to find some way to join the Mountain West (with Tulane and maybe a few other AAC members).

The AAC has lost so much (UConn, UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and, next year, SMU) At what point (and losing USF might be the breaking point — if we already aren't there) does staying in the AAC do Memphis little good? I do like the addition of Army for football, however. And if the league replaced USF with AppState ... that would be a strong switch in football. But again, and as I just posted, I doubt App would be interested.

Seems complicated to me...

On the one hand, you are right that the AAC is essentially having its guts ripped out over time... Thats what happens when you are the 'top' G5... The P5 keep picking up the programs.

On the other hand, everyone derided the AAC when it was formed. Called it a 'dumpster fire' all over these boards. Look how amazing the AAC performed over a decade. Great record versus P5, great access bowl record, and great TV dollars well above anyone else in the G5.

Could that magic happen again if the AAC gets a bit reconstituted? I think so... The AAC has (at least) 3 clear advantages. 1. Playing east, where the people are... I wouldn't want long travel westward to play late night games in smaller front range towns. 2. It's a big city, market oriented conference. Again, play where the people are and easier travel. 3. Those TV dollars... even if renegotiated, likely to stay tops in the G5.

Bottom line, for me, I wouldn't pull the trigger and run west without trying out the reincarnation of the AAC for awhile.

In the scenario USF is gone......... who is left? ECU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, and Memphis along with the CUSA teams?

This isn't the AAC from 10 years ago. The teams back then has pedigree and name recognition with fan bases. I will go out on a limb and say Memphis and Tulane beg the MWC to take them.

At this point it is the CUSA and I doubt SBC teams jump.

(03-13-2024 07:23 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  By looking at the metrics used on the new ACC mbrs for 2024 (Stanford/Cal/& SMU) we can see what other teams meet these same metrics from XII & G5. The ACC Can lose 4 before they have to add 1. But some of the adds will be determined by protecting ACC Network "In-State Rates" and then new States (Like Texas & Cali) that will add In-State rate subscriptions.

METRICS
1. 3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: That is the average of the three main academic ranks (USN, SR, & THE/WSJ) between only the standardized universe of FBS schools + AAU members, then ranked among the averages. This 3-way average, among a standardized universe, is as good a broad, fair perspective as can be shown.
2. Financial Data: Sports data comes from Knight and EADA filings, all of which are directly from the school. Campus financial data is from IPEDS.
3. FB AP Times Ranked
4. 2023 DC Points (All Sports)
5. TV Market: That is available from 2023–2024 Nielsen rankings (new or not new State for ACC Network)

2024 ACC Adds

Stanford:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #3 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $1.2B
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $157M FB: $32 M MBB: $7M Olympic: $46M
FB AP Times Ranked: 303
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 1412
TV Market: San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#10)

Cal:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #16 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $2.6B
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $114M FB: $34M MBB: $8M Olympic: $29M
FB AP Times Ranked: 200
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 833
TV Market: San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#10)

SMU:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #82 ( R2)
Research Spending: $205M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $79.4M FB: $27.1M MBB: $8.1 Olympic: $25.5M
FB AP Times Ranked: 180
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 279
TV Market: Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)


XII Expansion Teams

Utah:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #62 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $625M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $91M FB: $34M MBB: $10M Olympic: $21M
FB AP Times Ranked: 162
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 741
TV Market: Salt Lake City (#27) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates)State Pop: 3.4M

Kansas:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #75.7 (AAU & R1)
Research Spending: $386M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $119M FB: $21M MBB: $16M Olympic: $20M
FB AP Times Ranked: 111
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 353
TV Market: Kansas City (#34) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates)State Pop: 2.9M

Oklahoma St:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #105 (R1)
Research Spending: $207M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $100M FB: $29M MBB: $12M Olympic: $23M
FB AP Times Ranked: 282
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 800
TV Market: Oklahoma City (#47) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates)State Pop: 4M

TOP G5 Programs

USF:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #79 ( R1 & AAU)
Research Spending: $405M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $62.3M FB: $18.7M MBB: $5M Olympic: $11.3M
FB AP Times Ranked: 47
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 226
TV Market: Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) (#12)

UConn:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #68 ( R1)
Research Spending: $207M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $92.5M FB: $18.4M MBB: $24M Olympic: $21.9M
FB AP Times Ranked: 6
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 252
TV Market: Hartford & New Haven (#32) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates) State Pop: 3.6M

Colorado St:
3-Way Avg. Academic Rank: #88 ( R1)
Research Spending: $207M
Financial Data: F22 Dept. Budget: $59.3M FB: $30.9M MBB: $5.2M Olympic: $10M
FB AP Times Ranked: 43
2023 DC Points (All Sports): 156
TV Market: Denver (#17) (NEW STATE for ACCN Rates) State Pop: 5.8M

Tulane seems like such a natural fit for the acc if it has to backfill with g5


Jackson

(03-12-2024 08:20 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 08:18 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 08:16 PM)Eichorst Wrote:  Where this gets really interesting is the next-level impact with respect to--but not limited to--the MWC. With enough exit fee money, some top AAC programs gotta be looking elsewhere, right?

Maybe not the top programs, but definitely the western based programs.

If the MWC really wants to make a power move, they need to grab North Texas, Rice, Tulsa, and UTSA when the time is right.

The MWC needs to stand pat for a few months then merge into the PAC2. That won't happen before JULY.

(03-12-2024 04:24 PM)bullet Wrote:  FIU seems to be a mess in their AD, although they would otherwise be logical.

Georgia State fills a hole, but apparently they aren't willing to spend.

Marshall has a history with a lot of those schools, but are in a small market.

Liberty might be a possibility as they are willing to spend.

UMass is also willing to spend.

I might say MTSU is the most likely school.

Buffalo is a longshot.

The AAC traces its history to the Big East. If they want to get back to those roots, Buffalo would be a good add. But I'm not sure Buffalo is willing to undertake the spending increase that such a move would entail.

(03-13-2024 12:08 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 09:44 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 07:20 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 06:25 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If the AAC loses USF to the AAC, I would strongly want Memphis to find some way to join the Mountain West (with Tulane and maybe a few other AAC members).

The AAC has lost so much (UConn, UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and, next year, SMU) At what point (and losing USF might be the breaking point — if we already aren't there) does staying in the AAC do Memphis little good? I do like the addition of Army for football, however. And if the league replaced USF with AppState ... that would be a strong switch in football. But again, and as I just posted, I doubt App would be interested.

Seems complicated to me...

On the one hand, you are right that the AAC is essentially having its guts ripped out over time... Thats what happens when you are the 'top' G5... The P5 keep picking up the programs.

On the other hand, everyone derided the AAC when it was formed. Called it a 'dumpster fire' all over these boards. Look how amazing the AAC performed over a decade. Great record versus P5, great access bowl record, and great TV dollars well above anyone else in the G5.

Could that magic happen again if the AAC gets a bit reconstituted? I think so... The AAC has (at least) 3 clear advantages. 1. Playing east, where the people are... I wouldn't want long travel westward to play late night games in smaller front range towns. 2. It's a big city, market oriented conference. Again, play where the people are and easier travel. 3. Those TV dollars... even if renegotiated, likely to stay tops in the G5.

Bottom line, for me, I wouldn't pull the trigger and run west without trying out the reincarnation of the AAC for awhile.

If USF departs the AAC, that might be the "we've had enough of this league" moment for Memphis. At that point, the university might start considering a long-term view that could involve being part of a "best of the rest" league that could exist in a few years and likely be comprised primarily of MWC members.

But I do see your point.

I think that makes sense.

Especially when one considers that the AAC was mostly the remains of the BigEast (and a few from CUSA - including Memphis).

If USF leaves, how many of those original schools are left? Temple?

And, other than army, navy, and Wichita state, all of the AAC's backfill has come from CUSA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_A...p_timeline

Add Temple.

Next season's AAC will nine members that don't "fully feel" like C-USA (original or current): Army, Navy, Temple, USF, Wichita, Memphis, Tulane, Tulsa and Rice. These schools have been playing athletics at the "highest level" for many years and/or were members years ago of leagues of note (unlike, in general, the members of the MAC, Belt and C-USA)

The AAC can't afford to keep losing these members. Otherwise, an already damaged perception will worsen.

(03-13-2024 07:39 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 07:20 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 06:25 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If the AAC loses USF to the AAC, I would strongly want Memphis to find some way to join the Mountain West (with Tulane and maybe a few other AAC members).

The AAC has lost so much (UConn, UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and, next year, SMU) At what point (and losing USF might be the breaking point — if we already aren't there) does staying in the AAC do Memphis little good? I do like the addition of Army for football, however. And if the league replaced USF with AppState ... that would be a strong switch in football. But again, and as I just posted, I doubt App would be interested.

Seems complicated to me...

On the one hand, you are right that the AAC is essentially having its guts ripped out over time... Thats what happens when you are the 'top' G5... The P5 keep picking up the programs.

On the other hand, everyone derided the AAC when it was formed. Called it a 'dumpster fire' all over these boards. Look how amazing the AAC performed over a decade. Great record versus P5, great access bowl record, and great TV dollars well above anyone else in the G5.

Could that magic happen again if the AAC gets a bit reconstituted? I think so... The AAC has (at least) 3 clear advantages. 1. Playing east, where the people are... I wouldn't want long travel westward to play late night games in smaller front range towns. 2. It's a big city, market oriented conference. Again, play where the people are and easier travel. 3. Those TV dollars... even if renegotiated, likely to stay tops in the G5.

Bottom line, for me, I wouldn't pull the trigger and run west without trying out the reincarnation of the AAC for awhile.

In the scenario USF is gone......... who is left? ECU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, and Memphis along with the CUSA teams?

This isn't the AAC from 10 years ago. The teams back then has pedigree and name recognition with fan bases. I will go out on a limb and say Memphis and Tulane beg the MWC to take them.

At this point it is the CUSA and I doubt SBC teams jump.

That could happen.

(03-12-2024 08:02 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  AAC will go after GSU and ODU.
If Memphis goes to the ACC then MTSU will be in the mix
If GSU and ODU go to the AAC, App St, Marshall and Delaware may make a move to the MAC.