(03-07-2024 05:21 AM)MUther Wrote: You don't get it. Marshall fans are happy here. Marshall University doesn't belittle anyone. That seems to be the sole domain of LaTech, the school and the fans. A fair portion of why we're happy here is we're no longer associated with your crybaby program. LaTech has never lost a game. They've always been screwed out of victory by refs, some slight, injuries, always an excuse.
We care about Sun Belt teams. They are like us. We share similar philosophies. We root for each other when not playing each other. CUSA was as cutthroat as it gets. I love that the Texas schools manipulated Tech into supporting them at every turn and then abandoned you and left you in the dust. They never cared about Tech. But neither did anyone else. USM never gave it a second thought to leave you there. You were playing checkers with Texas while we were all playing chess for our future. We have one now. You don't. You're starting from scratch on the lowest rung of the ladder. And the only move you have is more call-ups and adding the dregs of FBS. Not a single FBS program of ten year or more wouldn't cut off a limb to get out of that hole. If MTSU's desire to get out wasn't only eclipsed by their greed, they and WKU would already be gone. No one wants to be where you're stuck.
Keep trying to make the best of your hopeless situation while the bar continues to lower. That is all you can do.
Awww, we like you too!
I was an ECU fan as a kid (parents went there), and I remember going to an ECU-Marshall game in Greenville one year during the late-2000s. In the stands, I was around Marshall and ECU fans who were joking with each other about never being able to leave Conference USA, how they were both going to be stuck there forever.
I cheer for Marshall now when they play ECU. It's a strange feeling, but that's how things turned out.
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2024 08:09 PM by Yosef181.)
(03-06-2024 09:47 AM)RustonBulldog Wrote: Also, the Independence Bowl rejected invite is one of the biggest propaganda/fake news pieces in college sports. Northern Illinois jumped from 21 to 15 in the BCS standings to earn a BCS berth. It was not expected. It was controversial at the time and what it did was bump every Big 12 team down a peg sending Iowa State to the Liberty Bowl. If you look at bowl projections prior to the BCS announcement, they all had Tech in the Liberty Bowl. A December 31st game on ESPN. Independence Bowl got the opportunity to stick it to Tech and they did. You will not find a shred of evidence of Louisiana Tech telling the independence bowl “no” once the BCS Standings were released. In fact, Louisiana Tech never even told the Independence Bowl no, they said they wanted to see how the chips fell. Louisiana Tech made the mistake of sitting back and let the PR narrative get out of control.Did our boosters want a better opponent for that team than ULM? Sure. Who wouldn’t though? That team was unbelievable and went wire to wire with the Johnny Football led Aggies. That doesn’t mean we turned the invite down.
Was it a mistake to play it the way they did, sure. But the narrative of they said no to avoid playing ULM, simply isn’t true.
Quote:"Louisiana Tech was offered a bid Saturday to play Louisiana-Monroe," an Independence Bowl official told ESPN. "They turned it down."
Athletic director Bruce Van De Velde told The Associated Press that Independence Bowl organizers offered a spot in their game on Saturday afternoon, but the Bulldogs had other possible options still available to them. Van De Velde said he asked the Independence Bowl for more time to make a decision, but was told by game organizers that they could not wait.
"Nobody turned a bowl bid down," he said. "We asked for more time to vet two other opportunities that we had that we felt good about."
Independence Bowl chairman Jack Andres said organizers had to set a deadline for Louisiana Tech. They were concerned if they waited they would be stuck with a team that was barely bowl eligible and too far away from Shreveport to bring many fans to the game.
"We had to make some decisions to get somebody in there. We've got sponsors, hotels. There's a lot of money riding on this," he said.
"Before we made another deal we called them back. We said, 'We're still willing to have you at the bowl, but need to know fairly quickly.' So we gave them a deadline and they didn't call us back until way later than that. If you don't call us back, that's a 'No.' And we made another deal so we'd have a quality bowl team."
The whole, "We never told them no. We just didn't say yes before the deadline they gave us, so we're the victim here" bit is exactly the kind of conceited, "our sh*t don't stink" detachment from reality that causes people to feel the way they do about LT.
You can argue the semantics of what "no" actually means, but one way or another, LT was asked to participate in the Independence Bowl--multiple times at that--and passed on it because they were holding out for a better opportunity that didn't involve ULM. Then that opportunity never came and the Bulldogs found themselves stuck.
There seems to be a bit of a pattern to all this.
The only pattern I see is that the circumstances don’t matter and Louisiana Tech will always be the bad guy to Sun Belt schools.
This coming from a Southern Miss fan is interesting because if someone had asked your opinion on Louisiana Tech five years ago there is about a zero percent chance you would have said something along those lines. Same for the Marshall fans. But now that you are in the Sun Belt, I guess despising Louisiana Tech is a requirement for membership.
Problem is, when will LaTech, show any proof of change, to erase those bad feelings? they have new administration now, the old guys who cause all the bad feelings are gone, so how will LaTech be different from the past? It dont matter if the fans are over the top, until they pressure the admin to act the same way. can other schools admin put their trust in what Tech says and does? any olive branches being sent out or do you just want everyone to forget and move on? Time maybe will tell. maybe when Tech starts to have success on the field on play for a few years, somethings might be reveled, how with they behave and what will be their attitude?
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2024 10:11 PM by balanced_view.)
(03-06-2024 09:47 AM)RustonBulldog Wrote: Also, the Independence Bowl rejected invite is one of the biggest propaganda/fake news pieces in college sports. Northern Illinois jumped from 21 to 15 in the BCS standings to earn a BCS berth. It was not expected. It was controversial at the time and what it did was bump every Big 12 team down a peg sending Iowa State to the Liberty Bowl. If you look at bowl projections prior to the BCS announcement, they all had Tech in the Liberty Bowl. A December 31st game on ESPN. Independence Bowl got the opportunity to stick it to Tech and they did. You will not find a shred of evidence of Louisiana Tech telling the independence bowl “no” once the BCS Standings were released. In fact, Louisiana Tech never even told the Independence Bowl no, they said they wanted to see how the chips fell. Louisiana Tech made the mistake of sitting back and let the PR narrative get out of control.Did our boosters want a better opponent for that team than ULM? Sure. Who wouldn’t though? That team was unbelievable and went wire to wire with the Johnny Football led Aggies. That doesn’t mean we turned the invite down.
Was it a mistake to play it the way they did, sure. But the narrative of they said no to avoid playing ULM, simply isn’t true.
Quote:"Louisiana Tech was offered a bid Saturday to play Louisiana-Monroe," an Independence Bowl official told ESPN. "They turned it down."
Athletic director Bruce Van De Velde told The Associated Press that Independence Bowl organizers offered a spot in their game on Saturday afternoon, but the Bulldogs had other possible options still available to them. Van De Velde said he asked the Independence Bowl for more time to make a decision, but was told by game organizers that they could not wait.
"Nobody turned a bowl bid down," he said. "We asked for more time to vet two other opportunities that we had that we felt good about."
Independence Bowl chairman Jack Andres said organizers had to set a deadline for Louisiana Tech. They were concerned if they waited they would be stuck with a team that was barely bowl eligible and too far away from Shreveport to bring many fans to the game.
"We had to make some decisions to get somebody in there. We've got sponsors, hotels. There's a lot of money riding on this," he said.
"Before we made another deal we called them back. We said, 'We're still willing to have you at the bowl, but need to know fairly quickly.' So we gave them a deadline and they didn't call us back until way later than that. If you don't call us back, that's a 'No.' And we made another deal so we'd have a quality bowl team."
The whole, "We never told them no. We just didn't say yes before the deadline they gave us, so we're the victim here" bit is exactly the kind of conceited, "our sh*t don't stink" detachment from reality that causes people to feel the way they do about LT.
You can argue the semantics of what "no" actually means, but one way or another, LT was asked to participate in the Independence Bowl--multiple times at that--and passed on it because they were holding out for a better opportunity that didn't involve ULM. Then that opportunity never came and the Bulldogs found themselves stuck.
There seems to be a bit of a pattern to all this.
The only pattern I see is that the circumstances don’t matter and Louisiana Tech will always be the bad guy to Sun Belt schools.
This coming from a Southern Miss fan is interesting because if someone had asked your opinion on Louisiana Tech five years ago there is about a zero percent chance you would have said something along those lines. Same for the Marshall fans. But now that you are in the Sun Belt, I guess despising Louisiana Tech is a requirement for membership.
Problem is, when will LaTech, show any proof of change, to erase those bad feelings? they have new administration now, the old guys who cause all the bad feelings are gone, so how will LaTech be different from the past? It dont matter if the fans are over the top, until they pressure the admin to act the same way. can other schools admin put their trust in what Tech says and does? any olive branches being sent out or do you just want everyone to forget and move on? Time maybe will tell. maybe when Tech starts to have success on the field on play for a few years, somethings might be reveled, how with they behave and what will be their attitude?
(03-06-2024 09:47 AM)RustonBulldog Wrote: Also, the Independence Bowl rejected invite is one of the biggest propaganda/fake news pieces in college sports. Northern Illinois jumped from 21 to 15 in the BCS standings to earn a BCS berth. It was not expected. It was controversial at the time and what it did was bump every Big 12 team down a peg sending Iowa State to the Liberty Bowl. If you look at bowl projections prior to the BCS announcement, they all had Tech in the Liberty Bowl. A December 31st game on ESPN. Independence Bowl got the opportunity to stick it to Tech and they did. You will not find a shred of evidence of Louisiana Tech telling the independence bowl “no” once the BCS Standings were released. In fact, Louisiana Tech never even told the Independence Bowl no, they said they wanted to see how the chips fell. Louisiana Tech made the mistake of sitting back and let the PR narrative get out of control.Did our boosters want a better opponent for that team than ULM? Sure. Who wouldn’t though? That team was unbelievable and went wire to wire with the Johnny Football led Aggies. That doesn’t mean we turned the invite down.
Was it a mistake to play it the way they did, sure. But the narrative of they said no to avoid playing ULM, simply isn’t true.
Quote:"Louisiana Tech was offered a bid Saturday to play Louisiana-Monroe," an Independence Bowl official told ESPN. "They turned it down."
Athletic director Bruce Van De Velde told The Associated Press that Independence Bowl organizers offered a spot in their game on Saturday afternoon, but the Bulldogs had other possible options still available to them. Van De Velde said he asked the Independence Bowl for more time to make a decision, but was told by game organizers that they could not wait.
"Nobody turned a bowl bid down," he said. "We asked for more time to vet two other opportunities that we had that we felt good about."
Independence Bowl chairman Jack Andres said organizers had to set a deadline for Louisiana Tech. They were concerned if they waited they would be stuck with a team that was barely bowl eligible and too far away from Shreveport to bring many fans to the game.
"We had to make some decisions to get somebody in there. We've got sponsors, hotels. There's a lot of money riding on this," he said.
"Before we made another deal we called them back. We said, 'We're still willing to have you at the bowl, but need to know fairly quickly.' So we gave them a deadline and they didn't call us back until way later than that. If you don't call us back, that's a 'No.' And we made another deal so we'd have a quality bowl team."
The whole, "We never told them no. We just didn't say yes before the deadline they gave us, so we're the victim here" bit is exactly the kind of conceited, "our sh*t don't stink" detachment from reality that causes people to feel the way they do about LT.
You can argue the semantics of what "no" actually means, but one way or another, LT was asked to participate in the Independence Bowl--multiple times at that--and passed on it because they were holding out for a better opportunity that didn't involve ULM. Then that opportunity never came and the Bulldogs found themselves stuck.
There seems to be a bit of a pattern to all this.
The only pattern I see is that the circumstances don’t matter and Louisiana Tech will always be the bad guy to Sun Belt schools.
This coming from a Southern Miss fan is interesting because if someone had asked your opinion on Louisiana Tech five years ago there is about a zero percent chance you would have said something along those lines. Same for the Marshall fans. But now that you are in the Sun Belt, I guess despising Louisiana Tech is a requirement for membership.
Problem is, when will LaTech, show any proof of change, to erase those bad feelings? they have new administration now, the old guys who cause all the bad feelings are gone, so how will LaTech be different from the past? It dont matter if the fans are over the top, until they pressure the admin to act the same way. can other schools admin put their trust in what Tech says and does? any olive branches being sent out or do you just want everyone to forget and move on? Time maybe will tell. maybe when Tech starts to have success on the field on play for a few years, somethings might be reveled, how with they behave and what will be their attitude?
Tech fans have never been cocky when they have good teams. Because Tech can f up a wet dream and their fans know it. They did it again tonight. I think an earlier poster stated it right. ULM started this whole thread to find a reason to once again place tech in a bad light. It’s become just what the Belt loves to do. So nO there is nothing Tech can do. It’s already ingrained in your head. Even USM who used to have a great relationship with Tech has now decided to pile on. The problem is not Tech anymore. They have been beaten down. You guys now need to look at yourselves. We never treated a conference mate badly and they know it.
I was going to respond earlier, but the rest of you guys were doing so well agasint those folks from rustononia it really wasn’t necessary. Besides, no amount of facts/reasoning will have an impact on how these people interact with posters.
But now that it is official that we have been promised that they are done with us, I have just this to say:
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2024 12:57 PM by FrankyP.)
(03-08-2024 08:53 AM)theATLDawg Wrote: Bye guys. See you next time LaTech shows up.
Say less. Hey, y'all, nobody mention Tech.
Georgia Tech? Tx tech? I rarely do. And as for that school in ruston I never do. LOL
I’m sure Lincoln Tech will eventually pop up as a future expansion candidate. Depending upon which campus gets the stadium, they could either bridge the SBC through Tennessee or give Texas State a travel partner.
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