(02-25-2024 09:32 AM)green Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 09:05 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 07:37 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 07:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump people need to stop rgushing over republican primaries and start figuring how to wun a general.

+1.

Spot on.

Trump is tailor made for primary dominance. The echo chamber is going to be shocked by his 46% again.

trump won whole enchilada in 2016 w/ 46% ...

OUTRUN THE BEAR

Brother, you are unfortunately going to need a hug the night of the election.

Once again, 40% of the Republican Party voted against Donald Trump.

(02-25-2024 11:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Once again, 40% of the Republican Party voted against Donald Trump.

sub 50 iq doesnt know how primaries work.....

(02-25-2024 11:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Once again, 40% of the Republican Party voted against Donald Trump.

Republicans, Dems and independents can vote in the South Carolina Primary. How many do you think voted for her that were Dems or independents?

(02-25-2024 11:42 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 11:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Once again, 40% of the Republican Party voted against Donald Trump.

sub 50 iq doesnt know how primaries work.....

no

Specifically, those who have an IQ between 0 and 25 are idiots; IQs between 26 and 50 are considered imbeciles; and those who have an IQ between 51 and 70 are considered morons.
.
Ironically, the term retarded was used to replace the terms idiot, moron, and imbecile due to the fact that these terms gradually became thought of as derogatory.

Interestlingly,
In Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, New Mexico, and Ohio, idiots don’t have the right to vote.



This should be universal and strictly enforced.

(02-24-2024 11:56 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

And why not? Because that was such a successful strategy for Liz’s political career.

(02-25-2024 07:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump people need to stop gushing over republican primaries and start figuring how to win a general.

I honestly don’t think it’s going to be hard. Despite the fact that very few people are crazy about either candidate—-this is actually the safest presidential election of my lifetime. Typically, in a presidential election—either one of the candidates—and in some cases both candidates—-are unknowns as a president. Normally—We may be familiar with the candidates—-but we have to “project” what they may be like as president. Sometimes one is an incumbent—-so he’s a known quantity— but the other is candidate we can only guess at what kind of president he will be. There is always a risk of the unknown when you jump to one of these guys who has never been president.

Not this year. Both candidates are known quantities. We know EXACTLY what we will get when we cast our ballots. In that sense, it’s the safest presidential ballot we will ever cast. It will come down to “are you better off now or when Trump was president”. Personally, I think Trump is going to win a Reagan like victory to capture a second term.

CNN Epic Meltdown Over Trump's SC Win and What People Think About 2020 Is a Sight to Behold

Quote:On Saturday, CNN had a big panel including Anderson Cooper, Alyssa Farah Griffin, Van Jones, and Jonah Goldberg to discuss former President Donald Trump's big win in the South Carolina primary. But they still couldn’t seem to quite absorb it. It was funny to watch as they struggled to cope:

Cooper had to admit to the "overwhelming results" and to the fact that the race was called immediately, right after the polls closed. Griffin called it the "greatest political comeback in history."

What they don't understand is that it wasn't really a "comeback" because Trump never really went away in the minds of many of the American people and likely grew stronger after they could compare his time in office to how horrible Joe Biden has been. It is a great achievement though, that no matter what has been thrown at him, he just seems to get stronger despite constant media hate since 2016.

There were attacks on Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) and how dare he have the temerity to support Trump. They can't understand how so much of America sees Trump's policies have been better for them compared to Biden's.

Jonah Goldberg said he wanted there to be factions in the Republican Party -- how dare the Republican Party come together behind a candidate?

But you don't win by hoping that Trump will somehow fade away or that the endless lawfare will get him. You have to present something to the American people, and right now they're seeing that in Trump. It's fascinating how out of touch with most Americans the panel was. They're talking out of the Washington bubble and that's why it doesn't make any sense to them.

Van Jones was perhaps the greatest example of that, claiming that the Republican Party had abandoned the border -- as though any American would take that propaganda seriously, when that's one of the main issues for Republicans and Donald Trump, and when Joe Biden has done such a terrible job on the border for three years.

How clueless is this whole panel? Let's take a look at this next clip, where they asked the Republican voters coming out if they thought Biden "legitimately won the 2020 election." They were not happy with the "No" answer that 65 percent of the people gave.

"Only a third give the correct answer to this question," the CNN host says, upset that two thirds didn't give the "correct answer" to an opinion question. How dare you not comply with what CNN wants. Again, a complete miss on what middle America is thinking and why. But they're going to keep trying to tell Americans what to think and then they wonder why their ratings continue to head for the basement.

(02-25-2024 09:05 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 07:37 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 07:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump people need to stop rgushing over republican primaries and start figuring how to wun a general.

+1.

Spot on.

Trump is tailor made for primary dominance. The echo chamber is going to be shocked by his 46% again.

So you are predicting Trump 46%, Biden 40%, Kennedy 13%, other 1%?

Nikki needs to tone down her rhetoric. Desperation is not a good look.

There are only 8 days to Super Tuesday, so it sounds like she will hang out for another 8 days before she drops out.

Nikki is either a complete idiot or a democrat operative.

Or... both.

(02-25-2024 02:17 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Nikki is either a complete idiot or a democrat operative.

Or... both.

Her political future is toast. She is burning bridges

(02-25-2024 02:17 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Nikki is either a complete idiot or a democrat operative.

Or... both.

There are alternatives:
She could just be one of those people who doesn't give up and wants to give it her best shot.
She could have a REALLY big ego like most people in politics. See John Kasich 2016.

(02-25-2024 07:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump people need to stop gushing over republican primaries and start figuring how to win a general.

Eliminate all so-called 'drop-boxes' and require ID attached for all mail-in ballots, with the requisite Legal voter ID verification to ensure the voters are 1) Legal US citizens 2) have a legal physical address and 3) are in fact eligible to vote 4) have not voted previously in said election and 5) are not, and have never been, dead at the time of voting. Also requiring paper ballots with names of candidates clearly visible in English only, no bar codes or 'QR' codes of any kind allowed, retaining of paper ballots for 4 years with mandatory physical inspection allowed. Many state have or have tried to get these simple, common sense things passsed or returned to State Election laws. RINOs along with all dems/marxists and Communists vehemently opposed, of course.

bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

maybe calling your hometown peeps a bunch of racists wasnt such as smart idea. Especially when many of them remember growing up with you.

(02-25-2024 03:01 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 07:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump people need to stop gushing over republican primaries and start figuring how to win a general.

Eliminate all so-called 'drop-boxes' and require ID attached for all mail-in ballots, with the requisite Legal voter ID verification to ensure the voters are 1) Legal US citizens 2) have a legal physical address and 3) are in fact eligible to vote 4) have not voted previously in said election and 5) are not, and have never been, dead at the time of voting. Also requiring paper ballots with names of candidates clearly visible in English only, no bar codes or 'QR' codes of any kind allowed, retaining of paper ballots for 4 years with mandatory physical inspection allowed. Many state have or have tried to get these simple, common sense things passsed or returned to State Election laws. RINOs along with all dems/marxists and Communists vehemently opposed, of course.

You're living in an echo chamber. Yes there was cheating in 2018, 2020, and 2022. I do not know whether it was enough to change the outcomes of any races or not, and neither do you or anyone else, because with our lax election security and integrity laws and procedures, it is not possible to know. Your suggestions 1) through 5) are all good ones and should be implemented, but won't be unless republicans win clear majorities in all 3 houses--white, senate, and HOR. I'm less enthused about paper ballots, but support them if you wish.

But the idea that doing those things would make Donald Trump president in 2025 is one you need to lose. You are surrounded by people who love Trump, which apparently blinds you and a lot of other Trump supporters to the fact that there are millions who hate his guts. Trump will at best have a difficult time winning in 2024.

Instead of whining about stolen elections, you need to get about the business of finding ways to overcome his negatives. Trump won in large part in 2016 because Obamacare was exposed a fraud the screwed the working middle class with higher health insurance premiums to subsidize the non-working welfare class. As a result Trump got a lot of votes from unhappy blue collar folks, that helped him carry Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Then republicans screwed around and did nothing to fix Obamacare, so Trump lost those voters and those states in 2020. Trump also did very good things for black and brown voters, which drew unsupported cries of "racisss" from the left, that republicans have done a horsesh** job of refuting.

Trump could very well lose the white house and republicans could takec control of the senate and increase their lead in the HOR, which would be an acceptable result in my mind. But in porder for republicans to maximize their results at the polls, they have to win the fiscal and national defense and Main Street economic voters, plus win back the blue collar, Black, and other people of color voters that Trump added in 2016. I think the way to do that is with:
1) Bismarck health care (which provides the universal coverage that Obamacare doesn't, with less government involvement than we now have, for about 70% of the cost of our current system, largely by doing away with government overhead)
2) Some sort of subsistence level non-diminishing universal basic income (UBI), again for less money than we currently spend on welfare by eliminating government overhead)
3) Pay for it with a consumption tax that also offers significant trade protection.
4) Reduce the complexity and uncertainty and intrusiveness of government regulation by adopting industry-friendlier processes and procedures--not dirty water or dirty air or unsafe workplaces, but it doesn't take 18 months to get an answer and you don't have two agencies telling you that you must do the exact opposite of what the other one is telling you.
5) Reform education to produce a competent, productive workforce for less money than we currently spend. Teach the three R's instead of D-I-E. We were told by the Obamacare hucksters that our health care system was a failure because we spent more while getting mediocre results; by that standard our elementary and high school education is a full blown holocaust.
6) Improve infrastructure. I have proposed a privatized component of social security that would inves in infrastructure improvement projects to be paid for with user fees set to generate a 5% ROI (roughly twice what the social security trust fund now earns).

That plays well with blue collar workers and people of color because they get money, and also well with businesses because it makes the USA a better place to do business. The result would almost certainly be significantly increased investment in domestic productive activities, a massive return of previously offshored industries to the USA, and white-hot economic growth for at least a decade.

(02-25-2024 04:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 03:01 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 07:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump people need to stop gushing over republican primaries and start figuring how to win a general.

Eliminate all so-called 'drop-boxes' and require ID attached for all mail-in ballots, with the requisite Legal voter ID verification to ensure the voters are 1) Legal US citizens 2) have a legal physical address and 3) are in fact eligible to vote 4) have not voted previously in said election and 5) are not, and have never been, dead at the time of voting. Also requiring paper ballots with names of candidates clearly visible in English only, no bar codes or 'QR' codes of any kind allowed, retaining of paper ballots for 4 years with mandatory physical inspection allowed. Many state have or have tried to get these simple, common sense things passsed or returned to State Election laws. RINOs along with all dems/marxists and Communists vehemently opposed, of course.

You're living in an echo chamber. Yes there was cheating in 2018, 2020, and 2022. I do not know whether it was enough to change the outcomes of any races or not, and neither do you or anyone else, because with our lax election security and integrity laws and procedures, it is not possible to know. Your suggestions 1) through 5) are all good ones and should be implemented, but won't be unless republicans win clear majorities in all 3 houses--white, senate, and HOR. I'm less enthused about paper ballots, but support them if you wish.

But the idea that doing those things would make Donald Trump president in 2025 is one you need to lose. You are surrounded by people who love Trump, which apparently blinds you and a lot of other Trump supporters to the fact that there are millions who hate his guts. Trump will at best have a difficult time winning in 2024.

Instead of whining about stolen elections, you need to get about the business of finding ways to overcome his negatives. Trump won in large part in 2016 because Obamacare was exposed a fraud the screwed the working middle class with higher health insurance premiums to subsidize the non-working welfare class. As a result Trump got a lot of votes from unhappy blue collar folks, that helped him carry Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Then republicans screwed around and did nothing to fix Obamacare, so Trump lost those voters and those states in 2020. Trump also did very good things for black and brown voters, which drew unsupported cries of "racisss" from the left, that republicans have done a horsesh** job of refuting.

Trump could very well lose the white house and republicans could takec control of the senate and increase their lead in the HOR, which would be an acceptable result in my mind. But in porder for republicans to maximize their results at the polls, they have to win the fiscal and national defense and Main Street economic voters, plus win back the blue collar, Black, and other people of color voters that Trump added in 2016. I think the way to do that is with:
1) Bismarck health care (which provides the universal coverage that Obamacare doesn't, with less government involvement than we now have, for about 70% of the cost of our current system, largely by doing away with government overhead)
2) Some sort of subsistence level non-diminishing universal basic income (UBI), again for less money than we currently spend on welfare by eliminating government overhead)
3) Pay for it with a consumption tax that also offers significant trade protection.
4) Reduce the complexity and uncertainty and intrusiveness of government regulation by adopting industry-friendlier processes and procedures--not dirty water or dirty air or unsafe workplaces, but it doesn't take 18 months to get an answer and you don't have two agencies telling you that you must do the exact opposite of what the other one is telling you.
5) Reform education to produce a competent, productive workforce for less money than we currently spend. Teach the three R's instead of D-I-E. We were told by the Obamacare hucksters that our health care system was a failure because we spent more while getting mediocre results; by that standard our elementary and high school education is a full blown holocaust.
6) Improve infrastructure. I have proposed a privatized component of social security that would inves in infrastructure improvement projects to be paid for with user fees set to generate a 5% ROI (roughly twice what the social security trust fund now earns).

That plays well with blue collar workers and people of color because they get money, and also well with businesses because it makes the USA a better place to do business. The result would almost certainly be significantly increased investment in domestic productive activities, a massive return of previously offshored industries to the USA, and white-hot economic growth for at least a decade.

.00000001 percent of the voters are ss smart ss you guys. This is gonna be tribal

Run for office Owl, afterall you're younger than Biden and Trump probably.

(02-25-2024 04:52 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Run for office Owl, afterall you're younger than Biden and Trump probably.

No thanks. One conversation with Rand about the pressure put on Kelley and the boys by the paparazzi convinced me that nobody in my family has ever done anything to me that was bad enough to deserve that.

(02-25-2024 04:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 03:01 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-25-2024 07:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump people need to stop gushing over republican primaries and start figuring how to win a general.

Eliminate all so-called 'drop-boxes' and require ID attached for all mail-in ballots, with the requisite Legal voter ID verification to ensure the voters are 1) Legal US citizens 2) have a legal physical address and 3) are in fact eligible to vote 4) have not voted previously in said election and 5) are not, and have never been, dead at the time of voting. Also requiring paper ballots with names of candidates clearly visible in English only, no bar codes or 'QR' codes of any kind allowed, retaining of paper ballots for 4 years with mandatory physical inspection allowed. Many state have or have tried to get these simple, common sense things passsed or returned to State Election laws. RINOs along with all dems/marxists and Communists vehemently opposed, of course.

You're living in an echo chamber. Yes there was cheating in 2018, 2020, and 2022. I do not know whether it was enough to change the outcomes of any races or not, and neither do you or anyone else, because with our lax election security and integrity laws and procedures, it is not possible to know. Your suggestions 1) through 5) are all good ones and should be implemented, but won't be unless republicans win clear majorities in all 3 houses--white, senate, and HOR. I'm less enthused about paper ballots, but support them if you wish.

But the idea that doing those things would make Donald Trump president in 2025 is one you need to lose. You are surrounded by people who love Trump, which apparently blinds you and a lot of other Trump supporters to the fact that there are millions who hate his guts. Trump will at best have a difficult time winning in 2024.

Instead of whining about stolen elections, you need to get about the business of finding ways to overcome his negatives. Trump won in large part in 2016 because Obamacare was exposed a fraud the screwed the working middle class with higher health insurance premiums to subsidize the non-working welfare class. As a result Trump got a lot of votes from unhappy blue collar folks, that helped him carry Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Then republicans screwed around and did nothing to fix Obamacare, so Trump lost those voters and those states in 2020. Trump also did very good things for black and brown voters, which drew unsupported cries of "racisss" from the left, that republicans have done a horsesh** job of refuting.

???? Seriously? Wow, just wow. Are you with the NSA, FBI, CIA or any of the other myriad corrupted gubmint agencies? How is it that you know who one is "surrounded by people who love Trump, which apparently blinds you and a lot of other Trump supporters to the fact that there are millions who hate his guts." The actual fact is I and many others are ACTUALLY surrounded by millions of folks who have been brainwashed to HATE President Trump and even more, what he represents, to the direct contradiction of your misguided assumption...

Yes, it is almost impossible right now for President Trump to win election to a thrid term in 2024, but ONLY because of the deep state and their coordination with the globalist cabal and the Bushes in cahoots with the Constitution-hating left, NOT because most of LEGAL American voters, who badly do want Pre4sident Trump/or his [policies and positions implemented immediately more or less as he has consistently espoused most of them, and to roll back and eliminate almost all of the present agenda implemented against America's will, against America's Constitution and against the Legal American people who are the only ones who should be allowed to have their voices heard, regardless of which party they support. Instead, those legal votes and voices have been systematically destroyed, removed, cancelled and watered down with illegal election practices at the behest and coordination of the cabal that is hell-bent on destroying freedom and liberty for all who belong here legally in favor of turning the US into a dicatator-controlled Marxist $hithole where the few far-left elites control and annihilate most normal people.

One thing is certain: this is President Trump's last hurrah. No matter what, there will have to be others (and they are starting to show themselves) who take up the mantle that president Trump has established. granted, they do not yet have his draw and charisma (or whatever you want to call that which makes millions flock to him and away from most others in numbers no one has seen in our lifetimes). Those who are Trump supporters do so not because of the actual man Trump, in most cases in spite of the man Trump. They support him because he is the only one consistently unafraid to stand up to the globalist Left and the false-god RINOs and Bushites who pretend, like poor slob Nikki Haley, to stand for something when they are in actuality opposed to freedom and liberty for all Legal American citizenry.

case in point, despite your repeated cheering for a government-controlled Bismarck health system, the majority of rank and file American Citizens do not want it or anything like it. Consistently they are incensed by so-called 'republicans' who claim to be against big-gubmi8nt health Inc, but fought vehemently against president trump during his first two years when he actually had the nerve to try to overturn LeftistObissmalcareless and replace it with something that might be more reasonable, choose-able (or not) and infinitely more affordable that the medical-Industrial complex dream that we have now or that something like Bismarck would be...

Legal American Citizens want the freedoms and Liberties guaranteed in the Constitution as written AND INTENDED by the Founding fathers. Globalists/Marxists/RINOs/whatever you want to call them, do not. The Gubmint (all levels, Federal, State, County, City and otherwise local), needs to be about 75% smaller than it is today in order to work as envisioned. Yes, that means a ton of useless gubmint workers, millions and millions of them need to be let go, but then there's your supposed missing work force that the globalists/Marxists/RINOs keep insisting we need by letting in all these America-hating illegals in who don't belong here because every single one of them came here criminally by law, and that is not "mean' to say, it is 100% factual, and they ALL need to be deported ASAP and go to the very BACK of the line behind the few who still DO come here LEGALLY.

And your strawberries can be picked by Robots, NOT illegals or migrant 'workers' (read: slaves), because by the Democratic Party Leadership's own words, that is all that they are viewed as, and those folks deserve better by following the laws as written and intended. JOB 1 Day 1: Kick them ALL the he77 out pronto.