I use this term to describe many members breaking free at once rather than 1 or 2 go at a time.

This could be a good thing if 7-9 of the most valuable members could reform into a stronger football conference. If it was just 1 or 2 members, they’d just go to one of the P2 and make those conferences that much stronger. I personally like the idea of reformation and not leave the majority behind.

Those who are left behind could still have the ACCN, Academic association, good hoops and several good backfill candidates.

Must be nice to live in a fantasy world.

(02-06-2024 11:20 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I use this term to describe many members breaking free at once rather than 1 or 2 go at a time.

This could be a good thing if 7-9 of the most valuable members could reform into a stronger football conference. If it was just 1 or 2 members, they’d just go to one of the P2 and make those conferences that much stronger. I personally like the idea of reformation and not leave the majority behind.

Those who are left behind could still have the ACCN, Academic association, good hoops and several good backfill candidates.

It could happen that many members of the ACC exit in the same year. We saw what happened out west.

The heavy hitters would find P2 homes, though. If you jump out of a Pinto and see a Lamborghini waiting with keys in the ignition, you don't stop to look around for a Buick. You jump in and floor it.

Could a conference with the best of the ACC be profitable enough to satisfy FSU? I would say yes, but there is a lot of ground work to get a conference especially one that wants a voice in the playoff picture. The AAC for example started off with just 4 members from the BE before things were blown up, the new FSU conference in the case of a jail break would have a bit more to work with and better options. I'll flesh out this later.

Why it could be profitable:

1) The ACC/Swofford admitted it took less money for better exposure and to save Raycom. So what the ACC got in 2012 wouid be undervalued to start. It stands to reason that a much better deal could be negotiated with just the top brands from the ACC playing each other.

2) Gate revenue wouid be much higher per team. I’d just have the home team keep the majority, if not all the gate revenue.

3) This conference could get better bowls and less of the less desirable bowls.

4) The OOC rivalries wouid be top notch.


The one area where this might not make or lose money is not having a conference network. I think the time for that has passed, but it wouid not mean that members could not sell their tier 3 rights in another way.

(02-06-2024 11:28 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  Must be nice to live in a fantasy world.

how come there's been muted opposition from league powers that be in the face of fsu belligerence ...

COLLEGIALITY

(02-07-2024 01:10 PM)green Wrote:  

(02-06-2024 11:28 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  Must be nice to live in a fantasy world.

how come there's been muted opposition from league powers that be in the face of fsu belligerence ...

COLLEGIALITY

"Muted opposition?" The ACC sued their sorry butts. What else do you want?

(02-07-2024 01:10 PM)green Wrote:  

(02-06-2024 11:28 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  Must be nice to live in a fantasy world.

how come there's been muted opposition from league powers that be in the face of fsu belligerence ...

COLLEGIALITY

1. Better breeding
2. Better sense
3. Better lawyers
4. Pro Wrestling Style Performance is not how most the league chooses to conduct business - it seems to be a Florida illness.

(02-07-2024 02:10 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(02-07-2024 01:10 PM)green Wrote:  

(02-06-2024 11:28 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  Must be nice to live in a fantasy world.

how come there's been muted opposition from league powers that be in the face of fsu belligerence ...

COLLEGIALITY

"Muted opposition?" The ACC sued their sorry butts. What else do you want?

Collegiality has been the norm on both sides. Two years ago the financial situation simply became untenable for any school hoping to compete at the top. We are now seeing North Carolina and Florida State officials, among others, speak up more candidly about it.

Sometimes you just have to have that difficult conversation. It doesn't help matters to keep putting it off.

FSU is doing what it believes is a neccesary step for its future. I don’t think it’s a good move in terms of money (I would wait for a few more years), but it’s their choice.

That said, it’s quite obvious that what FSU fans want does not always align with non FSU fans’ interest.

I saw the other thread is closed. This is like sharing a house with a soon-to-be ex, and the divorce process has not been very amicable.

Can somebody put this thread out to pasture? How is this not a troll?

(02-08-2024 11:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  Can somebody put this thread out to pasture? How is this not a troll?

It's a realistic possibility that multiple schools will soon exit the league. Departures could well include the Tar Heels. We'll see.

(02-09-2024 06:07 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 11:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  Can somebody put this thread out to pasture? How is this not a troll?

It's a realistic possibility that multiple schools will soon exit the league. Departures could well include the Tar Heels. We'll see.

If this scenario comes to pass, keeping most of the band together wouid be a preferable outcome.

Keep in mind a judge could see the ACC GoRs as not binding or not binding past 2027 if ESPN declined to extend their deal with the ACC.

Discussing the ACC’s future is not trolling, nobody has hurled insults.

(02-09-2024 06:07 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 11:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  Can somebody put this thread out to pasture? How is this not a troll?

It's a realistic possibility that multiple schools will soon exit the league. Departures could well include the Tar Heels. We'll see.

So we needed another thread on the topic with "jailbreak" in the title? Calling the very board's conference a jail?

People wonder why some of us get a lil ornery towards the FSU faithful here

(02-09-2024 07:48 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 06:07 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 11:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  Can somebody put this thread out to pasture? How is this not a troll?

It's a realistic possibility that multiple schools will soon exit the league. Departures could well include the Tar Heels. We'll see.

So we needed another thread on the topic with "jailbreak" in the title? Calling the very board's conference a jail?

People wonder why some of us get a lil ornery towards the FSU faithful here

Good point (but UNC and Duke and NC State fans have been guilty of this as well). Subtle propaganda is still just that.

(02-09-2024 07:48 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 06:07 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 11:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  Can somebody put this thread out to pasture? How is this not a troll?

It's a realistic possibility that multiple schools will soon exit the league. Departures could well include the Tar Heels. We'll see.

So we needed another thread on the topic with "jailbreak" in the title? Calling the very board's conference a jail?

People wonder why some of us get a lil ornery towards the FSU faithful here

You see the term "jail" used because the ACC has, by design, become a maximum security prison for universities that endeavors to make escape impossible, or so damaging that the escapee could not survive on the outside. Prior conference realignment issues involved less onerous exit fees and/or a short GoR negotiation, we've not previously seen a school forced to fight for the right to leave a conference without mortal wounds while a 12+ year sentence remains their time to serve.

There's the difference and hence the references to jail, prison, gulag, etc. If the ACC doesn't like being called a jail, then alter the GoR and become a free association of like-minded universities striving towards a common goal.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

If the label offends you, then I can edit my post, just say the word.

(02-09-2024 08:59 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 07:48 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 06:07 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 11:47 PM)esayem Wrote:  Can somebody put this thread out to pasture? How is this not a troll?

It's a realistic possibility that multiple schools will soon exit the league. Departures could well include the Tar Heels. We'll see.

So we needed another thread on the topic with "jailbreak" in the title? Calling the very board's conference a jail?

People wonder why some of us get a lil ornery towards the FSU faithful here

You see the term "jail" used because the ACC has, by design, become a maximum security prison for universities that endeavors to make escape impossible, or so damaging that the escapee could not survive on the outside. Prior conference realignment issues involved less onerous exit fees and/or a short GoR negotiation, we've not previously seen a school forced to fight for the right to leave a conference without mortal wounds while a 12+ year sentence remains their time to serve.

There's the difference and hence the references to jail, prison, gulag, etc. If the ACC doesn't like being called a jail, then alter the GoR and become a free association of like-minded universities striving towards a common goal.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

Last time I checked, FSU wasn't tossed into the ACC for being a menace to society. Quite the contrary, they freely signed up to join the country club for 20 years and now want to get out of their contract without paying their dues.