(01-31-2024 10:28 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:08 AM)Todor Wrote:  https://en.portnews.ru/news/359079/

https://africa.businessinsider.com/local...an/e4kw38q

All given to help Africans solve their own food issues.

Meanwhile, the US had sent, free of charge, stern lectures on everything they are doing wrong there, and a few thousand dollars to promote transgender Nigerian farmers development of new “apprenticeships” for children.

Oh look -- the Russians gave food and fertilizer to Africa!

Less food supplies than the Africans could have bought from Ukraine had this been a normal time.

The fertilizer? It was piped through pipelines from Russia to Europe that went through Ukraine which are now obviously shut off. The Russians are sitting on more ammonia than they know what to do with. They have to git rid of it or stop production outright.

It takes a special kinda dumb to think Russia offering couch change grain and fertilizer is some great offering after knocking Ukrainian grain off the market and causing food prices to soar for the entirety of Africa.

And yet it’s more than the US is doing for Africa, now or ever. Not only have Africans been awaiting the arrival of this fertilizer, they have been anxiously watching the news as the EU held up the shipments on purpose to stop them from getting it at all. All while the EU grasped at straws, making up one excuse after another why it could not be sent…

One of the many consequences of US borrowing money to fund billions of dollars worth of regime change operations that only end up making the rest of the world worse off.

(01-31-2024 10:33 AM)Todor Wrote:  And yet it’s more than the US is doing for Africa, now or ever. Not only have Africans been awaiting the arrival of this fertilizer, they have been anxiously watching the news as the EU held up the shipments on purpose to stop them from getting it at all. All while the EU grasped at straws, making up one excuse after another why it could not be sent…

One of the many consequences of US borrowing money to find regime change operations that only end up making the rest of the world worse off.

If you completely ignore all the AIDS help provided by Dubya Bush and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the USAID food aid provided for generations now and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the security overwatch which allows any African country to engage in international commerce including with the world's biggest consumption market (the United States) so they can produce and export their way to wealth.

If you completely ignore the US-based private charity and aid work with things like malaria nets and now the new UK developed malaria vaccine.


Yea if you completely ignore everything other than press releases on TASS/RT .... I can see why you'd think Russia does more.

The Ukraine Mess That Nuland made. It’s a good read.

https://truthout.org/articles/the-ukrain...land-made/

(01-31-2024 01:00 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 12:29 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 12:08 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blo...023-08-23/

True cost of the Russo Ukraine war not some fantasy island propaganda BS Todor spews

Seven to double digit inflation depending on where you are in Russia

They can’t buy eggs or other food staples because they are non existent and even if they we’re average Russians can’t afford them

Now back to La La Land of Enchanted with Todor

Mental block or just lunacy has taken over this Russian obsession

There are definitely two are three here who are no longer in the closet with their massive slobbering man crush on Putin.

Send ukraine another billion. One more should do it.

Putin man bad

Reeeeeeeeee

You nuts jerkin each other off while that little bastard zelinsky lights cigars with hundred dollar bills.

Shere, in case you haven’t noticed our corrupt government will send money where they want without taxpayers approval. Of course, it has to benefit them as well.

You mistakenly believe I’m backing their efforts. Last time I checked they have not asked you nor myself before sending weapons and cash.

That being said, we also have a clown who perpetuates lies and propaganda about a country that is barely past third world status.

Technology of the 1950s we are to believe is dominating the world scene.

Bread Truck in Kiev is their speed and it’s a struggle.

(01-31-2024 10:37 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:33 AM)Todor Wrote:  And yet it’s more than the US is doing for Africa, now or ever. Not only have Africans been awaiting the arrival of this fertilizer, they have been anxiously watching the news as the EU held up the shipments on purpose to stop them from getting it at all. All while the EU grasped at straws, making up one excuse after another why it could not be sent…

One of the many consequences of US borrowing money to find regime change operations that only end up making the rest of the world worse off.

If you completely ignore all the AIDS help provided by Dubya Bush and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the USAID food aid provided for generations now and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the security overwatch which allows any African country to engage in international commerce including with the world's biggest consumption market (the United States) so they can produce and export their way to wealth.

If you completely ignore the US-based private charity and aid work with things like malaria nets and now the new UK developed malaria vaccine.


Yea if you completely ignore everything other than press releases on TASS/RT .... I can see why you'd think Russia does more.

I think the AIDS “help” we supposedly gave is just a conspiracy theory—the idea that if the US spread AIDS throughout Africa it would decrease the population enough that they could feed themselves.

Granted, a LOT of people in Africa believe it, but I’m still shocked you would actually use it as an example.

But I think the AIDS assistance theory is just made up. Not even I believe we’d be competent enough to pull that off with f’ing it up.

(01-31-2024 10:42 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:37 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:33 AM)Todor Wrote:  And yet it’s more than the US is doing for Africa, now or ever. Not only have Africans been awaiting the arrival of this fertilizer, they have been anxiously watching the news as the EU held up the shipments on purpose to stop them from getting it at all. All while the EU grasped at straws, making up one excuse after another why it could not be sent…

One of the many consequences of US borrowing money to find regime change operations that only end up making the rest of the world worse off.

If you completely ignore all the AIDS help provided by Dubya Bush and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the USAID food aid provided for generations now and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the security overwatch which allows any African country to engage in international commerce including with the world's biggest consumption market (the United States) so they can produce and export their way to wealth.

If you completely ignore the US-based private charity and aid work with things like malaria nets and now the new UK developed malaria vaccine.


Yea if you completely ignore everything other than press releases on TASS/RT .... I can see why you'd think Russia does more.

I think the AIDS “help” we supposedly gave is just a conspiracy theory—the idea that if the US spread AIDS throughout Africa it would decrease the population enough that they could feed themselves.

Granted, a LOT of people in Africa believe it, but I’m still shocked you would actually use it as an example.

But I think the AIDS assistance theory is just made up. Not even I believe we’d be competent enough to pull that off with f’ing it up.

Here's the actual truth. From The Lancet, a peer reviewed, source and citation required, highly respected medical journal.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...X/fulltext

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:42 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:37 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:33 AM)Todor Wrote:  And yet it’s more than the US is doing for Africa, now or ever. Not only have Africans been awaiting the arrival of this fertilizer, they have been anxiously watching the news as the EU held up the shipments on purpose to stop them from getting it at all. All while the EU grasped at straws, making up one excuse after another why it could not be sent…

One of the many consequences of US borrowing money to find regime change operations that only end up making the rest of the world worse off.

If you completely ignore all the AIDS help provided by Dubya Bush and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the USAID food aid provided for generations now and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the security overwatch which allows any African country to engage in international commerce including with the world's biggest consumption market (the United States) so they can produce and export their way to wealth.

If you completely ignore the US-based private charity and aid work with things like malaria nets and now the new UK developed malaria vaccine.


Yea if you completely ignore everything other than press releases on TASS/RT .... I can see why you'd think Russia does more.

I think the AIDS “help” we supposedly gave is just a conspiracy theory—the idea that if the US spread AIDS throughout Africa it would decrease the population enough that they could feed themselves.

Granted, a LOT of people in Africa believe it, but I’m still shocked you would actually use it as an example.

But I think the AIDS assistance theory is just made up. Not even I believe we’d be competent enough to pull that off with f’ing it up.

Here's the actual truth. From The Lancet, a peer reviewed, source and citation required, highly respected medical journal.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...X/fulltext

It’s only some abstract, not an article. Chances are you didn’t register and read it at all. Neither will anyone else.

If you want to start a thread about how much the US does for Africa, feel free-but you don’t and haven’t because no one would discuss it. But this thread is still about Russias Africa Strategy and what it’s doing.

But you seem to only want to tear down other peoples efforts because you can’t let go of some grudge you have against Russia. Sad. Peace be with you though.

There are good things happening in the world whether you choose to see them or not. But most Americans are too busy patting themselves on the back to see what’s happening right in front of them.

You don’t want Africans to eat because the help came from Russia? Fine. But that’s no way to be honestly.

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:42 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:37 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:33 AM)Todor Wrote:  And yet it’s more than the US is doing for Africa, now or ever. Not only have Africans been awaiting the arrival of this fertilizer, they have been anxiously watching the news as the EU held up the shipments on purpose to stop them from getting it at all. All while the EU grasped at straws, making up one excuse after another why it could not be sent…

One of the many consequences of US borrowing money to find regime change operations that only end up making the rest of the world worse off.

If you completely ignore all the AIDS help provided by Dubya Bush and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the USAID food aid provided for generations now and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the security overwatch which allows any African country to engage in international commerce including with the world's biggest consumption market (the United States) so they can produce and export their way to wealth.

If you completely ignore the US-based private charity and aid work with things like malaria nets and now the new UK developed malaria vaccine.


Yea if you completely ignore everything other than press releases on TASS/RT .... I can see why you'd think Russia does more.

I think the AIDS “help” we supposedly gave is just a conspiracy theory—the idea that if the US spread AIDS throughout Africa it would decrease the population enough that they could feed themselves.

Granted, a LOT of people in Africa believe it, but I’m still shocked you would actually use it as an example.

But I think the AIDS assistance theory is just made up. Not even I believe we’d be competent enough to pull that off with f’ing it up.

Here's the actual truth. From The Lancet, a peer reviewed, source and citation required, highly respected medical journal.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...X/fulltext

Don’t confuse him with facts. He has a narrative to complete.

Did they make a version of "We Are the World"?

(01-31-2024 10:57 AM)Todor Wrote:  It’s only some abstract, not an article. Chances are you didn’t register and read it at all. Neither will anyone else.

If you want to start a thread about how much the US does for Africa, feel free-but you don’t and haven’t because no one would discuss it. But this thread is still about Russias Africa Strategy and what it’s doing.

But you seem to only want to tear down other peoples efforts because you can’t let go of some grudge you have against Russia. Sad. Peace be with you though.

There are good things happening in the world whether you choose to see them or not. But most Americans are too busy patting themselves on the back to see what’s happening right in front of them.

You don’t want Africans to eat because the help came from Russia? Fine. But that’s no way to be honestly.

Wahhhh, it took a little bit of effort to read a highly vetted, highly authoritative, source of truth. Wahhhhh. TASS press releases are easier to read, even written down to a 4th grade level. Wahhhh.

So, you going to biopsy Putin's Polyps while you're up there?

(01-31-2024 11:02 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:49 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:42 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:37 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:33 AM)Todor Wrote:  And yet it’s more than the US is doing for Africa, now or ever. Not only have Africans been awaiting the arrival of this fertilizer, they have been anxiously watching the news as the EU held up the shipments on purpose to stop them from getting it at all. All while the EU grasped at straws, making up one excuse after another why it could not be sent…

One of the many consequences of US borrowing money to find regime change operations that only end up making the rest of the world worse off.

If you completely ignore all the AIDS help provided by Dubya Bush and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the USAID food aid provided for generations now and still ongoing.

If you completely ignore the security overwatch which allows any African country to engage in international commerce including with the world's biggest consumption market (the United States) so they can produce and export their way to wealth.

If you completely ignore the US-based private charity and aid work with things like malaria nets and now the new UK developed malaria vaccine.


Yea if you completely ignore everything other than press releases on TASS/RT .... I can see why you'd think Russia does more.

I think the AIDS “help” we supposedly gave is just a conspiracy theory—the idea that if the US spread AIDS throughout Africa it would decrease the population enough that they could feed themselves.

Granted, a LOT of people in Africa believe it, but I’m still shocked you would actually use it as an example.

But I think the AIDS assistance theory is just made up. Not even I believe we’d be competent enough to pull that off with f’ing it up.

Here's the actual truth. From The Lancet, a peer reviewed, source and citation required, highly respected medical journal.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...X/fulltext

Don’t confuse him with facts. He has a narrative to complete.

This wasn’t a “debate” until people chose to make it one. It was only about what Russia was doing until the attacks instantly came in from a bunch of butt hurt people who hate Russia.

If people don’t want to read or discuss the topic, there is certainly no one forcing them. But I’ll always counter misinformation and attempts to drive the topic off topic.

(01-31-2024 11:10 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 10:57 AM)Todor Wrote:  It’s only some abstract, not an article. Chances are you didn’t register and read it at all. Neither will anyone else.

If you want to start a thread about how much the US does for Africa, feel free-but you don’t and haven’t because no one would discuss it. But this thread is still about Russias Africa Strategy and what it’s doing.

But you seem to only want to tear down other peoples efforts because you can’t let go of some grudge you have against Russia. Sad. Peace be with you though.

There are good things happening in the world whether you choose to see them or not. But most Americans are too busy patting themselves on the back to see what’s happening right in front of them.

You don’t want Africans to eat because the help came from Russia? Fine. But that’s no way to be honestly.

Wahhhh, it took a little bit of effort to read a highly vetted, highly authoritative, source of truth. Wahhhhh. TASS press releases are easier to read, even written down to a 4th grade level. Wahhhh.

So, you going to biopsy Putin's Polyps while you're up there?

I don’t have time to go down an off topic rabbit hole. YOU might want make the thread about that, but you’re the only one. The thread isn’t about US aids policy in Africa you do realize? Learning about what YOU think I should take my time to stop and go read about isn’t my problem. I don’t tell you what you should chose to be reading, do I?

If you want a thread about that, go start one. But no one will read or respond to because no one cares. Me included.

Damn, GTS on the war path

(01-31-2024 11:24 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Damn, GTS on the war path

He’s just the latest. And I just keep swatting the bugs away. They only pop in to try to drive threads off topic. They all get bored and go away in short order because I keep bringing things back on topic and they have no real interest in it anyway. Like I said, they are just here to be downers and disrupters. Nothing more.

(01-31-2024 11:32 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:24 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Damn, GTS on the war path

He’s just the latest. And I just keep swatting the bugs away. They only pop in to try to drive threads off topic. They all get bored and go away in short order because I keep bringing things back on topic and they have no real interest in it anyway. Like I said, they are just here to be downers and disrupters. Nothing more.

Credit where credit is due. In a rare show of honesty, Tudor bluntly admits he's all about keeping his Russian stooge propaganda narrative flowing, ignoring any facts to contrary. Well done.

(01-31-2024 11:44 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:32 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:24 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Damn, GTS on the war path

He’s just the latest. And I just keep swatting the bugs away. They only pop in to try to drive threads off topic. They all get bored and go away in short order because I keep bringing things back on topic and they have no real interest in it anyway. Like I said, they are just here to be downers and disrupters. Nothing more.

Credit where credit is due. In a rare show of honesty, Tudor bluntly admits he's all about keeping his Russian stooge propaganda narrative flowing, ignoring any facts to contrary. Well done.

It’s called a topic.

The Lancets latest AIDS research has nothing to do with Putin hosting delegations of African presidents or flying to NATO countries to meet with the President there.

If these other off topic issues are important to a particular person, they are more than capable of posting a thread about them.

USAID isn't the only government agency supporting Africa either. USADF helps them development sustainable businesses, farms, etc., to begin to take care of themselves rather than needing the rest of the world to take care of them. Having worked closely with that agency in the past I can say they do some amazing work. Could they do more? Sure, but they are limited to their budget.

(01-31-2024 11:14 AM)Todor Wrote:  This wasn’t a “debate” until people chose to make it one. It was only about what Russia was doing until the attacks instantly came in from a bunch of butt hurt people who hate Russia.

If people don’t want to read or discuss the topic, there is certainly no one forcing them. But I’ll always counter misinformation and attempts to drive the topic off topic.

You can move the goal posts around to Benny Hill music all you want, I'm still standing at the 50. You're peddling Putin propaganda that is laughably baseless and flies in the face of basic reality or even anybody paying half arsed attention.

Russia does nothing for Africa beyond token shows of support to nasty dictators who spend their hours engaging in fraud, corruption, murder, and mass oppression of their own people.

They get no credit for that other than from you. It doesn't actually help anybody in Africa. It doesn't actually benefit regular people in Africa. It's propaganda food for Vatniks who still go to sleep in sickle and hammer pajamas.

George W Bush -- who I have no great admiration for -- has done more to help Africa while taking a dump in the morning than Putin has done his entire life.

(01-31-2024 12:11 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-31-2024 11:14 AM)Todor Wrote:  This wasn’t a “debate” until people chose to make it one. It was only about what Russia was doing until the attacks instantly came in from a bunch of butt hurt people who hate Russia.

If people don’t want to read or discuss the topic, there is certainly no one forcing them. But I’ll always counter misinformation and attempts to drive the topic off topic.

You can move the goal posts around to Benny Hill music all you want, I'm still standing at the 50. You're peddling Putin propaganda that is laughably baseless and flies in the face of basic reality or even anybody paying half arsed attention.

Russia does nothing for Africa beyond token shows of support to nasty dictators who spend their hours engaging in fraud, corruption, murder, and mass oppression of their own people.

They get no credit for that other than from you. It doesn't actually help anybody in Africa. It doesn't actually benefit regular people in Africa. It's propaganda food for Vatniks who still go to sleep in sickle and hammer pajamas.

George W Bush -- who I have no great admiration for -- has done more to help Africa while taking a dump in the morning than Putin has done his entire life.

Wrong. It’s just an inconvenient truth for you to accept.

EU foreign affairs discussion from 31.1.24 that includes a lot of feelings of loss and bewilderment about how Russia is being successful in the now former French areas, wondering why they withdrew from ECOWAS, and how they are now forming their own new organization that will be self directed instead of French mandated.

The EU doesn’t seem very happy about their loss of Mail, Burkino Faso, et. al. I’m not sure if the clowns running the EU Foreign Policy are self aware enough to know what a failure they are, or if they are hung up on blaming Russia for this problem as well.

https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/informal...-upon-1_en