Quote:President Donald J Trump was accused of withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine in order to force compliance with his requests. This was the exact claim of those who attempted to impeach President Trump in 2019; this was their originating justification.

Today NBC is reporting that Joe Biden is looking at what military aid can be withheld from Israel in order to force compliance with their requests. I doubt the insufferable dolts in the media can see the ridiculous hypocrisy in this story.

WASHINGTON — The Biden administration is discussing using weaponry sales to Israel as leverage to convince the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to heed long-standing U.S. calls to scale back its military assault in the Gaza Strip, according to three current U.S. officials and one former U.S. official.

At the direction of the White House, the Pentagon has been reviewing what weaponry Israel has requested that could be used as leverage, said the sources. They said no decisions have been made.


The sources said Israeli officials continue to ask the administration for more weapons, including large aerial bombs, ammunition and air defenses.

After weeks of private administration requests produced fewer results than the White House wants, the sources said, the U.S. is considering slowing or pausing the deliveries in the hope that doing so will prod the Israelis to take action. (MORE)

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Come on man!!!! You know the Dems mantra is do as I say, not as I do.

They get away with these things because the vast majority of the media is in the tank and won't call them out on pretty much AYNYTHING.

Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

Total fabrication on your part.

But hey, fabrication is your only talent.

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

And you have no idea that you just explained exactly what Joe did as VICE President to help the Corporation his son was a board member of. Can't make this up.

(01-29-2024 02:24 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

And you have no idea that you just explained exactly what Joe did as VICE President to help the Corporation his son was a board member of. Can't make this up.

Except you have no proof of that except your feelings.

(01-29-2024 02:26 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:24 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

And you have no idea that you just explained exactly what Joe did as VICE President to help the Corporation his son was a board member of. Can't make this up.

Except you have no proof of that except your feelings.

Prove ANYTHING you have said today in any thread.

(01-29-2024 02:26 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:24 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

And you have no idea that you just explained exactly what Joe did as VICE President to help the Corporation his son was a board member of. Can't make this up.

Except you have no proof of that except your feelings.

It's on video, and it wasn't for political gain. It was for money

LOL at the idea Genocide Joe is going to withhold anything from Israel.

(01-29-2024 02:34 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:26 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:24 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

And you have no idea that you just explained exactly what Joe did as VICE President to help the Corporation his son was a board member of. Can't make this up.

Except you have no proof of that except your feelings.

It's on video, and it wasn't for political gain. It was for money

Removing Viktor Shokin from office was the stated goal of both the EU & US. Biden was carrying out US strategy by pressuring Shokin.

From 2016
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/eu...-1.2591190

The European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine's scandal-ridden prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption, even as the country's political crisis deepened over efforts to form a new ruling coalition and appoint a new prime minister.

Ukraine's parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor's office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

"This decision creates an opportunity to make a fresh start in the prosecutor general's office. I hope that the new prosecutor general will ensure that [his] office . . . becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust," said Jan Tombinski, the EU's envoy to Ukraine.

“There is still a lack of tangible results of investigations into serious cases . . . as well as investigations of high-level officials within the prosecutor general’s office,” he added.

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

You're a liar.

Here's an idea: stop giving military aid to other countries. We have our own problems to deal with. They can sort it out themselves without our help.

(01-29-2024 07:28 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Here's an idea: stop giving military aid to other countries. We have our own problems to deal with. They can sort it out themselves without our help.

(01-29-2024 03:33 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:34 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:26 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:24 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

And you have no idea that you just explained exactly what Joe did as VICE President to help the Corporation his son was a board member of. Can't make this up.

Except you have no proof of that except your feelings.

It's on video, and it wasn't for political gain. It was for money

Removing Viktor Shokin from office was the stated goal of both the EU & US. Biden was carrying out US strategy by pressuring Shokin.

From 2016
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/eu...-1.2591190

The European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine's scandal-ridden prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption, even as the country's political crisis deepened over efforts to form a new ruling coalition and appoint a new prime minister.

Ukraine's parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor's office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

"This decision creates an opportunity to make a fresh start in the prosecutor general's office. I hope that the new prosecutor general will ensure that [his] office . . . becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust," said Jan Tombinski, the EU's envoy to Ukraine.

“There is still a lack of tangible results of investigations into serious cases . . . as well as investigations of high-level officials within the prosecutor general’s office,” he added.

You need to site the Act that granted the $Billion loan guarantees. Shokin raided the owner of Burisma and confiscated property a month before Biden threatened Ukraine. They fired him because Joe was gonna hold back Congress approved $$$. Joe had no power to do so, it wasn't his money. This has been proven ad nauseum.
From 2016:
Burisma owner raided.
Keep eating what you're feed.

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Court seizes property of ex-minister Zlochevsky in Ukraine – PGO
The movable and immovable property of former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevsky in Ukraine has been seized, according to the press service of the Prosecutor General

by Interfax-Ukraine | February 4, 2016, 6:40 pm
Court seizes property of ex-minister Zlochevsky in Ukraine – PGO

“The PGO filed a petition to court to arrest the property of the ex-Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine, the Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine, Mykola Zlochevsky, from which arrest was withdrawn, and other property he actually uses, namely housing estate with a total area of 922 square meters, a land plot of 0.24 hectares, a garden house with a total area of 299.8 square meters, a garden house in the territory of Vyshgorod district, a garden house of 2,312 square meters, a land plot of 0.0394 hectares, a Rolls-Royce Phantom car, a Knott 924-5014 trainer,” reads the report.

I noticed I got no reply. So I have another one to add. You don't go to the Irish Times to get your news on Ukraine. You go to Ukraine.
Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying

Quote:Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.

Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.

"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.

He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.

"According to the documents, Burisma paid no less than $16.5 million to [former Polish President, who became an independent director at Burisma Holdings in 2014] Aleksander Kwasniewski, [chairman of the Burisma board of independent directors] Alan Apter, [Burisma independent director] Devon Archer and Hunter Biden [who joined the Burisma board of directors in 2014]," Derkach said.

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

Trump was impeached because the nutjob Dems has a simple majority in the house. So they impeached him because they could. twice.

i heard the phone call, never any request to find dirt.. only a reasonable ask to continue to investigate. And the whole thing still smells of something that needs investigating, and as i understand it is still being looked at.

But I get it.. collusion and all.. you know, the goods..

(01-30-2024 12:41 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I noticed I got no reply. So I have another one to add. You don't go to the Irish Times to get your news on Ukraine. You go to Ukraine.
Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying

Quote:Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.

Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.

"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.

He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.

"According to the documents, Burisma paid no less than $16.5 million to [former Polish President, who became an independent director at Burisma Holdings in 2014] Aleksander Kwasniewski, [chairman of the Burisma board of independent directors] Alan Apter, [Burisma independent director] Devon Archer and Hunter Biden [who joined the Burisma board of directors in 2014]," Derkach said.

a shady link penned by a Russian agent?

https://time.com/6052302/andriy-derkach-profile/

The U.S. government—under both Joe Biden and Donald Trump—has called Derkach an “active Russian agent.” About a month before our meeting in Kyiv, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees all U.S. spy agencies, accused him of being a Kremlin operative par excellence, the tip of the spear in a Russian plot to sway the 2020 presidential election. In a declassified report, it said with “high confidence”—the gold standard for such conclusions—that Russian President Vladimir Putin had authorized and “probably directed” the plot to help Trump win a second term. As part of this operation, the report concluded, “Putin had purview over the activities of Andriy Derkach.”

In the fall of 2019, he gained access to Trump’s inner circle through Rudy Giuliani, the President’s personal lawyer. He then provided Giuliani with documents purporting to show that Joe Biden and his family were involved in corruption. After their first meeting, Derkach even posted a photo of himself with Giuliani on Facebook, mugging for the camera as they exchanged a stack of documents. In the months before Election Day, he released a series of secret recordings of Biden pressuring top Ukrainian officials to fight corruption. The source of those tapes remains a mystery to this day.

Pretty sure Trump was a "Russian Agent" for a couple years too. A Ukrainian news agency has nothing to gain making up a story. It's not America.

(01-29-2024 02:27 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:26 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:24 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-29-2024 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump was impeached because he was threatening to withhold senate approved funds from Ukraine in order to coerce Zelensky to find dirt on Joe Biden for political gain.

But I can see how in Republican Persecution land these things are the same.

And you have no idea that you just explained exactly what Joe did as VICE President to help the Corporation his son was a board member of. Can't make this up.

Except you have no proof of that except your feelings.

Prove ANYTHING you have said today in any thread.

(01-30-2024 08:14 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Pretty sure Trump was a "Russian Agent" for a couple years too. A Ukrainian news agency has nothing to gain making up a story. It's not America.

Have you not read about the sarcasm rule here?