(01-12-2024 10:41 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 10:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

The only thing that matters is the single highest ranked single champion. All the bs chest pounding about who's the best G5 conference doesn't mean crap. The CFP folks couldn't care less about that at the G5 level. The SBC is probably a more "fun" conference fwiw.

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The unequal CFP payout to G5 conferences based on performance says otherwise. If I remember correctly, the best conference receives 5/15ths of the overall G5 share, the second-best receives 4/15ths of it, and it gradually decreases until you get to the worst conference, who receives 1/15th of it. The last I saw, the value of 1/15th share was well over $1 Million.

And I think you meant to reply to thewavefan, not me? That's who is trolling by "chest pounding" about being the best G5 conference. I simply provided evidence to refute his claim.

Fair enough. But By the time a G5 conference splits that money 12-14 ways it amounts to peanuts.

https://businessofcollegesports.com/foot...payouts/of

" The Group of Five have another $15 million to split, which sources tell me they will split according to computer rankings. The conference whose teams rank the highest in the aggregate will receive $5 million, the conference in second place $4 million, the conference in third place $3 million, the conference in fourth place $2 million and the conference in last place $1 million."

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(01-09-2024 02:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I have no idea. IMO it is completely up in the air.

Only thing I believe strongly is the MAC won't be the representative.

Not likely but not impossible. Miami has Northwestern, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, and UMass in OOC, if we go at least 3-1 in that and sweep the MAC season we are a legit contender. We lost our Top RB/WR to the portal and a few starters to graduation but got P5 transfers to help replace them, and return the vast majority of the MAC’s best scoring defense since 2000. Also had the #1 ST unit nationally and return all of those key contributors too. Biggest question mark is if QB Brett Gabbert can stay healthy most or all season, but if so watch out.

(01-12-2024 11:36 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-09-2024 09:54 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  I know its early but it won't be long before the conference pre-season rankings are out. This season it appears to be somewhat wide open for the G5 spot and this year it will be access into the CFP.

What we know

SMU is gone to the ACC, Army is in the American

2023 Winners

American-SMU
CUSA-Liberty
MAC-Miami (OH)
Sun Belt-Troy
Mountain West-Boise

You would have to keep all of these title winners as contenders in 2024. I would replace SMU with Memphis coming off their Liberty Bowl win and returning their QB.

I think some others to keep an eye on.

USF in the American. Beating Syracuse 45-0 was a statement. USF made significant progress this season and looks to have some swagger going in to 2024.

UNLV in the MWC. UNLV seems to have momentum as a program. They lost their bowl game to Kansas 49-36 but they seem to be moving in the right direction. Playing in Allegiant Stadium is a game changer for the program. Also their non conference is manageable, with games at Houston, at Kansas and home against Army (plus a FCS). They host Boise, Fresno and SDSU and go to Oregon St. Difficult yet manageable. And the MWC CCG is at Allegiant.

The mwc CCG is at the home of the higher seed. It was at Allegiant because UNLV hosted

Gotcha.

(01-12-2024 12:18 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 10:41 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 10:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

The only thing that matters is the single highest ranked single champion. All the bs chest pounding about who's the best G5 conference doesn't mean crap. The CFP folks couldn't care less about that at the G5 level. The SBC is probably a more "fun" conference fwiw.

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The unequal CFP payout to G5 conferences based on performance says otherwise. If I remember correctly, the best conference receives 5/15ths of the overall G5 share, the second-best receives 4/15ths of it, and it gradually decreases until you get to the worst conference, who receives 1/15th of it. The last I saw, the value of 1/15th share was well over $1 Million.

And I think you meant to reply to thewavefan, not me? That's who is trolling by "chest pounding" about being the best G5 conference. I simply provided evidence to refute his claim.

Fair enough. But By the time a G5 conference splits that money 12-14 ways it amounts to peanuts.

https://businessofcollegesports.com/foot...payouts/of

" The Group of Five have another $15 million to split, which sources tell me they will split according to computer rankings. The conference whose teams rank the highest in the aggregate will receive $5 million, the conference in second place $4 million, the conference in third place $3 million, the conference in fourth place $2 million and the conference in last place $1 million."

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Correct.

So saying "The only thing that matters is the single highest ranked single champion" is incorrect. I'm sure the Sun Belt feels better about getting $5M this year vs. getting $1M a few years ago.

Homer take but TXST certainly has a good chance for 2024. We return a ton of production, have a favorable schedule with only 4 true road games, and our main two obstacles in our division are going through a ton of turnover (Troy, Louisiana).

(01-12-2024 11:11 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 10:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

The only thing that matters is the single highest ranked single champion. All the bs chest pounding about who's the best G5 conference doesn't mean crap. The CFP folks couldn't care less about that at the G5 level. The SBC is probably a more "fun" conference fwiw.

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Agreed there. We saw that with Liberty this year. Certainly CUSA wasn't the highest rated conference.

WAY TOO MANY fans beat the chest of their conference like it means something when it comes to playoffs. It doesn't. Teams are looked at based on their schedules and how they performed. With these bloated conferences, sometimes you have an easy path to the CG. That is supposed to be factored in and the whole schedule looked at. In every sport. That is why many "supposed" great basketball conferences might only get 3 bids in a year because they really only had 3 really good teams...many others were just average (or just above average).

Liberty was the best G5 team this year.

(01-09-2024 02:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I have no idea. IMO it is completely up in the air.

Only thing I believe strongly is the MAC won't be the representative.

SBC is the only conference to never be the representitive.

I remember when the anti Sun Belt talking point was that we never had a ranked team. That was circa 2014 and 2015. Now in the last 5 years the Sun Belt has more cumulative weeks in the AP poll than any other G5 league counting current members.

This is just goal post moving, but eventually the talking point about the G5/NY6 will be lost too. What's more important though is that there's not a single Sun Belt fan or administration who would rather be in CUSA or MAC than the SBC, and not many more that would rather be in the AAC.

I could foresee the following happening (though not suggesting its chances are strong):

The Big Ten and/or SEC take a few ACC members.

The Big 12 then takes a few ACC members.

The remaining ACC members then invite however many of the "best brands" left from the G leagues to create a "best of the rest/No. 4 all-sports conference."

This scenario might present the best chance for the highest-profile G5 members (Oregon State, Washington State, San Diego State, Colorado State, Tulane, Memphis, Temple, USF, UConn, etc.) to be members of a league that would be much better than the MWC and AAC. And I would not be surprised to see the military academies and/or a MAC/ Sun Belt member or two (or more) included in that BOR conference.

(01-12-2024 05:13 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I remember when the anti Sun Belt talking point was that we never had a ranked team. That was circa 2014 and 2015. Now in the last 5 years the Sun Belt has more cumulative weeks in the AP poll than any other G5 league counting current members.

This is just goal post moving, but eventually the talking point about the G5/NY6 will be lost too. What's more important though is that there's not a single Sun Belt fan or administration who would rather be in CUSA or MAC than the SBC, and not many more that would rather be in the AAC.

It's hard sometimes being a Sun Belt school supporter on this site. For whatever reason, there's more negatively here thrown at the SBC than any other G5 league. It has been that way for a long time.

(01-09-2024 06:40 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(01-09-2024 06:24 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Still waiting on the 7-5 model to be adopted. At this point its still 6-6.

This guy is picking Tulane and Boise. Both. Based on it presently being 6-6

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...24-season/

I'm concerned for WSU/OSU, I think that they're the ones holding things up. If the rest of the Conferences offered them something worthwhile then they'd certainly be willing to deal, but it's possible that we just muddle through with a 6-6 format for 2 years.

Quite possible.

And then, in 2026, instead of going to 7-5 go to 9-7 or 10-6. And I’m tired of the “G5 champs don’t even deserve to be in at all” crowd. NFL is super successful and has all division winners in the playoffs no matter what. Even AFC South, LOL.

(01-14-2024 08:00 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  

(01-09-2024 06:40 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(01-09-2024 06:24 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Still waiting on the 7-5 model to be adopted. At this point its still 6-6.

This guy is picking Tulane and Boise. Both. Based on it presently being 6-6

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...24-season/

I'm concerned for WSU/OSU, I think that they're the ones holding things up. If the rest of the Conferences offered them something worthwhile then they'd certainly be willing to deal, but it's possible that we just muddle through with a 6-6 format for 2 years.

Quite possible.

And then, in 2026, instead of going to 7-5 go to 9-7 or 10-6. And I’m tired of the “G5 champs don’t even deserve to be in at all” crowd. NFL is super successful and has all division winners in the playoffs no matter what. Even AFC South, LOL.

I know there's been controversy around the fact that even bad division winners get to host over a more deserving wild card team but I think its perfect the way it is and truly incentivizes winning your division. It was pretty wild watching the Dolphins fall from the 2 seed to the 6 seed last week.

(01-12-2024 10:53 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

Historically this has been the AAC bowl. My point was that until another conference has the track record of excellence that the AAC does then the casual fan must assume the team from the AAC has the best shot. If you don’t like that, then prove it by having your conference take the spot 6-8 times over the next 9 years.

And other than single appearances by Memphis and Tulane, those teams that got the bids are gone.

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

All that proves is that AAC programs played more high caliber competition in their 2023 OOC games.

In the 2023 OOC portion of their schedule, AAC programs face- Alabama, Oklahoma (twice), Cal, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Houston (twice), Ole Miss, Maryland, Rutgers, Washington, Clemson, Tennessee, TCU, Missouri, Miami, Illinois, Florida, & Georgia.

In total the AAC played 21 OOC games against P5 programs in 2023.


Can you post a comparable 2023 list for the Sun Belt, the MWC, or C-USA? I'll wait.

(01-15-2024 05:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

All that proves is that AAC programs played more high caliber competition in their 2023 OOC games.

In the 2023 OOC portion of their schedule, AAC programs face- Alabama, Oklahoma (twice), Cal, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Houston (twice), Ole Miss, Maryland, Rutgers, Washington, Clemson, Tennessee, TCU, Missouri, Miami, Illinois, Florida, & Georgia.

In total the AAC played 21 OOC games against P5 programs in 2023.


Can you post a comparable 2023 list for the Sun Belt, the MWC, or C-USA? I'll wait.

From Yosef's post upthread

Even if we limited the list to non-conference record against other G5s...

1) Mountain West - 0.611 (11-7)
2) Sun Belt - 0.552 (16-13)
3 (tie) Conference USA - 0.500 (9-9)
3 (tie) American - 0.500 (10-10)
5) MAC - 0.294 (5-12)

MWC P5 OOC
Washington
UCF
USC x2
Oregon State x2
Purdue
Arizona State
Michigan
Vanderbilt x2
Texas Tech
Texas
Iowa
Colorado
Stanford
Oregon
Texas A&M
UCLA
Washington State
Kansas

The Mountain West played 21 P5 teams, with only 12 members vs 14 for the AAC, so the MWC played on average more P5 teams than the AAC

I will hang up and listen for your response

(01-15-2024 06:12 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 05:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

All that proves is that AAC programs played more high caliber competition in their 2023 OOC games.

In the 2023 OOC portion of their schedule, AAC programs face- Alabama, Oklahoma (twice), Cal, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Houston (twice), Ole Miss, Maryland, Rutgers, Washington, Clemson, Tennessee, TCU, Missouri, Miami, Illinois, Florida, & Georgia.

In total the AAC played 21 OOC games against P5 programs in 2023.


Can you post a comparable 2023 list for the Sun Belt, the MWC, or C-USA? I'll wait.

From Yosef's post upthread

Even if we limited the list to non-conference record against other G5s...

1) Mountain West - 0.611 (11-7) 18 G5 OOC Games
2) Sun Belt - 0.552 (16-13) 29 G5 OOC Games
3 (tie) Conference USA - 0.500 (9-9) 18 G5 OOC Games
3 (tie) American - 0.500 (10-10) 20 G5 OOC Games
5) MAC - 0.294 (5-12) 17 G5 OOC Games

It's very obvious from the numbers presented that the Belt puffed up their numbers on G5 competition, while the AAC was facing stiffer P5 competition. Trying to rank the G5 using this metric is pointless. Again, the AAC played 21 games against P5 programs in 2023. I'm still waiting to know how many P5's the Sun Belt faced.

(01-15-2024 06:20 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  MWC P5 OOC
Washington
UCF
USC x2
Oregon State x2
Purdue
Arizona State
Michigan
Vanderbilt x2
Texas Tech
Texas
Iowa
Colorado
Stanford
Oregon
Texas A&M
UCLA
Washington State
Kansas

The Mountain West played 21 P5 teams, with only 12 members vs 14 for the AAC, so the MWC played on average more P5 teams than the AAC

I will hang up and listen for your response

Thank you. That is a respectable list of P5 programs on your 2023 OOC schedules. And to be honest, I'm a bit surprised. I didn't realize the MWC faced that many P5's. I have no problem with the MWC claiming to be the best overall non-autonomous conference this season.

(01-15-2024 12:00 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 10:53 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

Historically this has been the AAC bowl. My point was that until another conference has the track record of excellence that the AAC does then the casual fan must assume the team from the AAC has the best shot. If you don’t like that, then prove it by having your conference take the spot 6-8 times over the next 9 years.

And other than single appearances by Memphis and Tulane, those teams that got the bids are gone.

Which still means that the AAC has MORE NY6 appearances than any of the other four. And as many wins in those games as the other four combined. A win in the most recent appearance 2022 as opposed to back in 2014.

(01-15-2024 07:12 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 06:12 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 05:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 07:20 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 09:30 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  The AAC is still firmly in control of who gets the spot. We are still the top dog until proven otherwise. It will be a lot of fun to see who rises up. Counting down the days until next season.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond anyway. The AAC finishing 9th out of the 10 conferences in overall non-conference winning percentage this year has proven otherwise.

1) SEC - 0.769 (50-15)
2) Pac-12 - 0.755 (34-11)
3) Big Ten - 0.750 (39-13)
4) Big 12 - 0.686 (35-16)
5) ACC - 0.656 (44-23)
6) Sun Belt - 0.574 (39-29)
7) Mountain West - 0.500 (28-28)
8) Conference USA - 0.488 (20-21)
9) American - 0.435 (27-35)
10) MAC - 0.407 (22-32)

Imagine performing worse than Conference USA and believing you're still "the top dog"

I don't know what reality you're trying to live in, but it isn't real.

All that proves is that AAC programs played more high caliber competition in their 2023 OOC games.

In the 2023 OOC portion of their schedule, AAC programs face- Alabama, Oklahoma (twice), Cal, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Houston (twice), Ole Miss, Maryland, Rutgers, Washington, Clemson, Tennessee, TCU, Missouri, Miami, Illinois, Florida, & Georgia.

In total the AAC played 21 OOC games against P5 programs in 2023.


Can you post a comparable 2023 list for the Sun Belt, the MWC, or C-USA? I'll wait.

From Yosef's post upthread

Even if we limited the list to non-conference record against other G5s...

1) Mountain West - 0.611 (11-7) 18 G5 OOC Games
2) Sun Belt - 0.552 (16-13) 29 G5 OOC Games
3 (tie) Conference USA - 0.500 (9-9) 18 G5 OOC Games
3 (tie) American - 0.500 (10-10) 20 G5 OOC Games
5) MAC - 0.294 (5-12) 17 G5 OOC Games

It's very obvious from the numbers presented that the Belt puffed up their numbers on G5 competition, while the AAC was facing stiffer P5 competition. Trying to rank the G5 using this metric is pointless. Again, the AAC played 21 games against P5 programs in 2023. I'm still waiting to know how many P5's the Sun Belt faced.

The sunbelt also had more p5 wins than the AAC. So by any metric, the sunbelt was the better conference. You can just admit it