BIGDTiger
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 Non-Conf // AAC Conf Opponents // Other Notable Top 25 action (Season Long Thread)
It being winter break I thought I would have some fun and put some numbers together. Might need some of you to help me out to keep this going forward. Once the high school basketball season gets into district play I’ll be pretty busy until the end of February. I have a pretty competitive high school basketball team that I’m coaching this year.
All up to date as of 12/29/23
Our Net Ranking 38
(W) Missouri: 7-5 Net Ranking 108
Good wins: Minnesota, Pitt, Wichita State
Bad Losses: Jackson State
(W) Michigan: 6-6 Net Ranking 65
Good Wins: Stanford
Bad Losses: Eastern Michigan
(W) Arkansas: 8-4 Net Ranking 97
Good Wins: Old Dominion, Stanford, Duke
Bad Losses: UNC Greensboro
(L) Villanova: 9-4 Net Ranking 30
Good Wins: Memphis, Maryland, Texas Tech, UNC, UCLA, Creighton
Bad Losses: Penn, St Joseph’s. Drexel
(L)Ole Miss 12-0 Net Ranking 57
Good Wins: Memphis, NC State
Bad Losses: None
(W) Texas A&M 8-4 Net Ranking 18
Good Wins: Ohio State, Iowa State
Bad Losses: None
(W) Clemson 10-1 Net Ranking 12
Good Wins: Alabama, TCU, South Carolina
Bad Losses: None
(W) Virginia 10-3 Net Ranking 31
Good Wins: Florida, Texas A&M, Syracuse
Bad Losses: None
(W) VCU 7-5 Net Ranking 90
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: Norfolk State
American Conference Net Rankings
FAU 6
Memphis 38
SMU 52
UNT 96
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aTxTIGER
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
The tigers mission now is not just to win but exceed the expected margin of victory to improve NET and KenPom ratings. The NET depends so much of efficiency/MoV that it's imperative to overachieve in that regard now.
Unfortunately, we've done a poor job of this so far except against UVA.
KenPom has us as a 19 point favorite tonight. A 20+ point victory is a good start.
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rolexjames
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
the AAC is so much better than the CUSA that Cal inherited...but the national narrative is the same. It's a shame too.
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RCM1029
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Just for the fact that they are in the SEC, I would include Vanderbilt in that list.
Vanderbilt: 4-8 Net ranking 278
Good wins: None
Bad losses: Presbyterian, San Fransisco, Western Carolina
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Eagleonpar
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
(12-29-2023 10:54 AM)rolexjames Wrote: the AAC is so much better than the CUSA that Cal inherited...but the national narrative is the same. It's a shame too.
Outside of FAU it’s worse
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aTxTIGER
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
(12-29-2023 11:19 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (12-29-2023 10:54 AM)rolexjames Wrote: the AAC is so much better than the CUSA that Cal inherited...but the national narrative is the same. It's a shame too.
Outside of FAU it’s worse
CUSA KenPom Standings 2008
Top 50
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Memphis 2
Top 100
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UAB 61
Houston 71
UCF 97
USM 98
Tulsa 92
100-200
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UTEP 108
Marshall 139
Tulane 164
200 plus
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ECU 225
SMU 283
Rice 302
Current KenPom 2023
Top 50
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FAU 10
Memphis 32
Top 100
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SMU 51
UNT 81
100-200
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Tulane 109
Wichita St 118
Charlotte 124
USF 132
ECU 165
UAB 166
Tulsa 180
Rice 193
200 plus
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Temple 205
UTSA 293
I would contend that 2008 CUSA is easily a stronger conference than the current AAC this season. Also, 2008 CUSA's AdjEM rating is a full point higher than this AACs and that CUSA would be the 8th best conference in the country passing the AAC and the A10.
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2023 01:12 PM by aTxTIGER.)
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BIGDTiger
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Thanks FAU 
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Alcalde2
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Virginia lost to Notre Dame by almost the same score they lost to us by. Thats a bad loss. ND sucks
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Fluke
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
ND was almost as bad of a loss as had we lost to vandy. FAU losing to FGCU was a q4 loss. Unfortunately it’s looking like when it’s all said and done other than A&M and Clemson the wins we stacked up in non-con are going to not be as strong as we thought at the time.
Virginia fell all the way to 51 in kenpom so I expect a similar drop in the NET. That will end up not being a q1 win for us.
Arkansas is at 98 which is right on the border of falling out of q2.
Michigan has fallen to 77 so it could go either way if they can stay q2. Probably do just based on being in the BIG.
Our own NET has been lagging since we aren’t putting away the bad teams we play. We really gotta split with FAU and not lose more than one other game somewhere to get a top 4 seed imo and with their disrespect I wouldn’t be surprised at a 5 in that scenario.
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BIGDTiger
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Michigan lost to McNeese? Sheesh
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roachman48
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Nice work by Big D --
Tigers ? Just win baby! I get it, that the margin of victory is overemphasized in these computer rankings. I am not disputing any of the previous comments and concerns about our opponents.
But, if we keep on winning at a high rate, things will work out for us.
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msu35
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Winning games by less than optimal margins is a far better outcome than losing to dumpster diving teams à la FAU. I'll take winning every time.
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Fluke
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Ole Miss finishes up its noncon undefeated. I think they start to rack up some losses in SEC play but it shouldn’t be in danger of turning into a bad loss for us. They will be q2 at worst and a good chance of staying q1 as long as they don’t lose to a vandy.
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MSU87
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
A horrible day for non-conference opponents. Arkansas, Missouri, Clemson, Virginia, and Villanova all lost. Meanwhile, as of halftime, Charlotte is stomping FAU to the curb.
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Fluke
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
(01-06-2024 04:52 PM)MSU87 Wrote: A horrible day for non-conference opponents. Arkansas, Missouri, Clemson, Virginia, and Villanova all lost. Meanwhile, as of halftime, Charlotte is stomping FAU to the curb.
And Clemson lost twice this week. They are probably going to start teetering on dropping to q2 also. UNC game won’t hurt them much but I’m not confident in anyone except Texas A&M staying q1 at this point.
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Alcalde2
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
I know its not non-conference but noticed today that North Texas would currently be a Q1 win on the road. I hope FAU, N.Texas and SMU win every game other than ours so we can have a few more
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Marc Mensa
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Not the best day for our non-conference credentials
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blue68
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
Geez! Ole Piss got smoked.
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cscottl1981
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
(01-06-2024 08:08 PM)blue68 Wrote: Geez! Ole Piss got smoked.
Yep. I thought the OM game was one we should have won. I feel that way even more so now. We better cross our fingers and hope they don’t fall apart in conference play.
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tigertaylor
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RE: Notable Non Conference Opponent Results
(01-06-2024 08:08 PM)blue68 Wrote: Geez! Ole Piss got smoked.
the hogs got BBQd today too
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Non-Conf // AAC Conf Opponents // Other Notable Top 25 action (Season Long Thread)
