That has been the narrative with all the AAC vs. SBC comparisons. People have said the AAC could have 5/14 members make a bowl game while the SBC could have 12/14 members make a bowl game, and the AAC would still be regarded as the best G5 conference if it got the NY6 bid.

So is the narrative now that CUSA is the best league just because Liberty went undefeated?

Funny thing is the SB and MW were better than the AAC and CUSA

New Mexico State blowing out Auburn mattered

Alabama struggled against Auburn

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  That has been the narrative with all the AAC vs. SBC comparisons. People have said the AAC could have 5/14 members make a bowl game while the SBC could have 12/14 members make a bowl game, and the AAC would still be regarded as the best G5 conference if it got the NY6 bid.

So is the narrative now that CUSA is the best league just because Liberty went undefeated?

If a narrative comes from this it will be that there is no top G5. With realignment it’ll be a wide open race next year.

(12-03-2023 05:33 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  New Mexico State blowing out Auburn mattered

Alabama struggled against Auburn

There is a reason a lot of SEC teams schedule G5s or FCS teams before rivalry week.

(12-03-2023 06:20 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:33 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  New Mexico State blowing out Auburn mattered

Alabama struggled against Auburn

There is a reason a lot of SEC teams schedule G5s or FCS teams before rivalry week.

FSU, too.

I completely agree that the CUSA is the best g5 conference. Well done, guys.

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  That has been the narrative with all the AAC vs. SBC comparisons. People have said the AAC could have 5/14 members make a bowl game while the SBC could have 12/14 members make a bowl game, and the AAC would still be regarded as the best G5 conference if it got the NY6 bid.

So is the narrative now that CUSA is the best league just because Liberty went undefeated?

This is why I laughed when I saw Liberty announced for the NY6. I haven't seen those same AAC posters bowing down to CUSA yet

And it gets even worse for them: their best team is leaving for the ACC. Their second-best team is losing their coach.

Liberty is and will continue be a top level G5 program. If I was running show, I’d be pushing real hard to add both Liberty and East Carolina to the Sunbelt.

Damn the torpedoes.


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(12-03-2023 06:46 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  Liberty is and will continue be a top level G5 program. If I was running show, I’d be pushing real hard to add both Liberty and East Carolina to the Sunbelt.

Damn the torpedoes.


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The issue with Liberty in the Sun Belt when it comes to athletics is the financial advantage they would always have over the rest of us. They can pour money into their program in ways the rest of the Sun Belt can't. We have to worry about state politics when it comes to stuff like athletic funding. They don't. That's why there isn't a private school in the conference.

East Carolina would be a great addition.

(12-03-2023 06:45 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  That has been the narrative with all the AAC vs. SBC comparisons. People have said the AAC could have 5/14 members make a bowl game while the SBC could have 12/14 members make a bowl game, and the AAC would still be regarded as the best G5 conference if it got the NY6 bid.

So is the narrative now that CUSA is the best league just because Liberty went undefeated?

This is why I laughed when I saw Liberty announced for the NY6. I haven't seen those same AAC posters bowing down to CUSA yet

And it gets even worse for them: their best team is leaving for the ACC. Their second-best team is losing their coach.

If the PAC 2 can get their way? We could see Tulane, UTSA, Memphis and one other move to the PAC 18. ACC could get Rice and some eastern AAC and SBC schools and maybe Delaware to join if ACC loses schools.

Liberty is undefeated. Records matter.

Oh.

Wait.

FSU

Nevermind

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  That has been the narrative with all the AAC vs. SBC comparisons. People have said the AAC could have 5/14 members make a bowl game while the SBC could have 12/14 members make a bowl game, and the AAC would still be regarded as the best G5 conference if it got the NY6 bid.

So is the narrative now that CUSA is the best league just because Liberty went undefeated?

You SB guys still bragging about 6-6 records and going to the Weed Eater and Jimmy Kimmel Bowls?

The G5 spot is not for the best G5 conference. Liberty getting the bid undefeated is different than Florida St missing out because the G5 spot is fairly meaningless. There’s no playoff at stake. Florida St getting into the CFP has playoff implications.

Since JMU is not there to be in the NY 6 bowl, the rest of the G5 schools have 2 loses or more while Liberty had none. One thing for sure. Jump losing any games period.

(12-03-2023 07:21 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The G5 spot is not for the best G5 conference. Liberty getting the bid undefeated is different than Florida St missing out because the G5 spot is fairly meaningless. There’s no playoff at stake. Florida St getting into the CFP has playoff implications.

It's not meaningless. The money means a lot to these schools.

(12-03-2023 07:19 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  That has been the narrative with all the AAC vs. SBC comparisons. People have said the AAC could have 5/14 members make a bowl game while the SBC could have 12/14 members make a bowl game, and the AAC would still be regarded as the best G5 conference if it got the NY6 bid.

So is the narrative now that CUSA is the best league just because Liberty went undefeated?

You SB guys still bragging about 6-6 records and going to the Weed Eater and Jimmy Kimmel Bowls?

So you think going to bowl games is a bad thing now. You should be happy UTEP isn't good enough to play in one then.

(12-03-2023 06:46 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  Liberty is and will continue be a top level G5 program. If I was running show, I’d be pushing real hard to add both Liberty and East Carolina to the Sunbelt.

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Why would Liberty want to move to the SBC? Their coach has already moved up to CUSA why would he want to go back?

The difference between FSU and Liberty, Liberty was the best G5 team on the field as was their record.

(12-03-2023 05:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  That has been the narrative with all the AAC vs. SBC comparisons. People have said the AAC could have 5/14 members make a bowl game while the SBC could have 12/14 members make a bowl game, and the AAC would still be regarded as the best G5 conference if it got the NY6 bid.

So is the narrative now that CUSA is the best league just because Liberty went undefeated?

Only if you assume away the underlying conference rankings which place the SBC and AAC close enough that snaring the NY6 bid can be seen as enough to close the gap. No matter what AAC advocates may claim, the MWC and SBC have been the best conferences overall among the Go5, and the AAC needed the NY6 bid to offset that.

Now, if the AAC CCG wasn't a play-in to the Access Bowl with an AP-ranked SMU beating the former CFP #22 Tulane, it is looking a lot more like the CFP#12 race next year will be fairly wide open.

And it looks like the only flaw in Liberty's scheduling from the view of the CFP committee might be that they didn't schedule two FCS schools to guarantee 7 home games per season.