(12-05-2023 10:11 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(12-05-2023 09:54 AM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  I see nothing wrong with Minnesota (or any other 5-7 team that might make a bowl) get a bowl game. I see it as a reward for their academic success since it's their high APR that allowed them the spot after all. And, as Schad said, if we don't allow a 5-7 team to fill a spot, we would have to cancel the bowl which would, more than likely, negatively affect a MAC school.

I think the Quick Lane Bowl would have found another school. They wanted Minnesota, even at 5-7, and that's why Minnesota is in Detroit. It's difficult to know exactly which 6-6 school would have been left out in a scenario where no sub-.500 teams could participate. But we can guess it wouldn't have been the SEC or Big Ten.

Take your pick of the two transitioning programs, a ranked 11-1 James Madison or 8-4 Jax State. Probably would be 8-4 Jax State as their transition, while on the same 2-year schedule as JMUs, was night and day.

(12-05-2023 10:24 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-05-2023 09:54 AM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  I see nothing wrong with Minnesota (or any other 5-7 team that might make a bowl) get a bowl game. I see it as a reward for their academic success since it's their high APR that allowed them the spot after all. And, as Schad said, if we don't allow a 5-7 team to fill a spot, we would have to cancel the bowl which would, more than likely, negatively affect a MAC school.

As for Ohio's bowl assignment, I have no problem with it. Going against Georgia Southern, we have a good chance of winning our fifth bowl game in a row and finishing with 10 wins for the second straight year - something that has never been done in program history.

Doesn't necessarily mean they had any high academic achievement; they had the highest APR of the 5-7 teams after the other 81 were assigned to a bowl. They could conceivably be lowest in academics, but the only 5-7 team.

well, true, but i guess what i was meaning was that they are graduating their players. of course, the academics that they are graduating from may be shoddy, so there is that!

(12-05-2023 10:28 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-05-2023 10:11 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(12-05-2023 09:54 AM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  I see nothing wrong with Minnesota (or any other 5-7 team that might make a bowl) get a bowl game. I see it as a reward for their academic success since it's their high APR that allowed them the spot after all. And, as Schad said, if we don't allow a 5-7 team to fill a spot, we would have to cancel the bowl which would, more than likely, negatively affect a MAC school.

I think the Quick Lane Bowl would have found another school. They wanted Minnesota, even at 5-7, and that's why Minnesota is in Detroit. It's difficult to know exactly which 6-6 school would have been left out in a scenario where no sub-.500 teams could participate. But we can guess it wouldn't have been the SEC or Big Ten.

Take your pick of the two transitioning programs, a ranked 11-1 James Madison or 8-4 Jax State. Probably would be 8-4 Jax State as their transition, while on the same 2-year schedule as JMUs, was night and day.

This is a good point. A bowl wouldn't be played, and Jacksonville State would certainly be sitting home. This year, at least.

(12-04-2023 08:11 PM)astr083 Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 11:46 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  well, i would have like to seen Ohio vs UTSA in Dallas.

B-10 got alot of gul, who wants to see 5-7 with tractor pull offence
hold this spot open for Army-Navy winner
for 100,000 a school, B-10 tells academies go get ready for Middle East

I agree with you on Ohio.... A 9-3 team with a P-5 win should at the very least get an AAC team, but instead they get a 6-6 SBC team in a location that will most likely be a home game for Ga Southern..... Not a reward for their season at all. I would be really, really pissed if I were an OU football player/coach/fan. These turned out to be pretty terrible pairings that were most likely put together by ESPN.

EMU playing on the home field of their opponent is complete BS as well. They did finish 6-6, so they have less of an argument, and I think Mobile is a pretty decent location/warm weather when it comes to what the MAC has been given this year, but to play on an opponents home field in a bowl game is pretty unfair.

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1

Maybe this has something to do with the perception internally versus externally.

(12-05-2023 11:17 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 08:11 PM)astr083 Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 11:46 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  well, i would have like to seen Ohio vs UTSA in Dallas.

B-10 got alot of gul, who wants to see 5-7 with tractor pull offence
hold this spot open for Army-Navy winner
for 100,000 a school, B-10 tells academies go get ready for Middle East

I agree with you on Ohio.... A 9-3 team with a P-5 win should at the very least get an AAC team, but instead they get a 6-6 SBC team in a location that will most likely be a home game for Ga Southern..... Not a reward for their season at all. I would be really, really pissed if I were an OU football player/coach/fan. These turned out to be pretty terrible pairings that were most likely put together by ESPN.

EMU playing on the home field of their opponent is complete BS as well. They did finish 6-6, so they have less of an argument, and I think Mobile is a pretty decent location/warm weather when it comes to what the MAC has been given this year, but to play on an opponents home field in a bowl game is pretty unfair.

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1

Maybe this has something to do with the perception internally versus externally.

Or in particular, https://masseyratings.com/ranks?s=cf ... because conferences don't go to bowls, teams do.

In the Composite, so IIANM, EMU is 116th, by far the lowest ranked 6-6 school, where USF is 103rd and NIU is 101st.

But EMU couldn't be left home, because all "deserving" schools need an invite before "alternates" can get a spot.

So they got placed in a bowl game where the crowd would be guaranteed to be into the game no matter who the opponent, because it's a home game for South Alabama.

my ratings show Ohio vs UTSA
GaSo vs Navy/Army
Old Dom vs Rice
TexSt vs Marshall
WK vs Lousa

https:babicratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=11

Quote:I think the Quick Lane Bowl would have found another school. They wanted Minnesota, even at 5-7, and that's why Minnesota is in Detroit.

The Quick Lane Bowl is set for MAC vs B1G. And we'll want that more since the B1G is only going to play 2 OOC teams a year from now on. But that aside....

The B1G's basically going to put their worst team in there; or shall I say worst team within a reasonable distance. It's always been set that way. So any mid-west team from the B1G who squeaks in at 5-7, or 6-7 due to playing @Hawaii -- should be expected to be the team.

Nick Bromberg/Yahoo Sports ranked all 41 Bowls from worst to best. Here's where the MAC Bowls ranked:
#41 Quick Lane Bowl
#39 68 Ventures Bowl
#37 Camellia Bowl
#33 Myrtle Beach Bowl
#16 Cure Bowl
#11 Arizona Bowl

(12-06-2023 01:43 AM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:I think the Quick Lane Bowl would have found another school. They wanted Minnesota, even at 5-7, and that's why Minnesota is in Detroit.

The Quick Lane Bowl is set for MAC vs B1G.

The QL Bowl is kind of the "flex protect" bowl for the Big Ten, in case the Big Ten has fewer than a normal number of schools in the NY6, so they need an "extra" bowl ... or, as in this case, in case the Big Ten is providing one of the alternate 5-game winners because of having a number of schools ranking high in the APR rankings.

Quote: And we'll want that more since the B1G is only going to play 2 OOC teams a year from now on. But that aside....

Big Ten football schedule: Conference releases opponents, protected rivalries for 2024-28 seasons

Quote: ... The number of conference games (nine) will remain the same. ...

B-10 needs protection for 5-7, oh brother

let them start 5-7 bowl in Indianapolis
5-7 Neb vs 5-7 Minn
Chicago gets dome built
5-7 ILL vs 5-7 BYU

26 yards passing, you kidding me
Army would have beat that

(12-28-2023 04:28 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  26 yards passing, you kidding me
Army would have beat that

That true freshman RB was a beast. They didn’t need to air it out, and maybe didn’t want to risk interceptions against a defense that leads the country in turnovers forced. But that back, though…damn.

(12-28-2023 01:46 PM)bg816 Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 04:28 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  26 yards passing, you kidding me
Army would have beat that

That true freshman RB was a beast. They didn’t need to air it out, and maybe didn’t want to risk interceptions against a defense that leads the country in turnovers forced. But that back, though…damn.

This was not a terrible loss for the conference. Losing to a Big Ten team is better than losing to a 6-6 or 7-5 Sun Belt or C-USA team....No shame in the loss, but this was a game I thought BG would win big. Hopefully Toledo comes through to close out the bowl season.

(12-28-2023 01:46 PM)bg816 Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 04:28 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  26 yards passing, you kidding me
Army would have beat that

That true freshman RB was a beast. They didn’t need to air it out, and maybe didn’t want to risk interceptions against a defense that leads the country in turnovers forced. But that back, though…damn.

Yea, he looked really good. Difference-maker.