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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:04 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: They're not leaving Alabama out.
Texas beat Alabama.
Florida State looked like trash against fraud Louisville.
You do the math.
What game did you pretend you watched?
I watched an incredible FSU defense. And a team without it's leader beat a top 15 team.
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12-03-2023 12:13 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:11 AM)Acres Wrote: The SEC or rather best football conference in the country, is not going to be left out of the playoffs. They’d blow up the whole enterprise.
That already happened. This is the finger on the way out. Sankey has to finally eat some humble pie.
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12-03-2023 12:14 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:13 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:58 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:56 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Washington, Michigan and Bama are in. Comes down to FSU/Texas. Alabama lost to Texas early and Texas lost to a lower ranked Oklahoma early. Bama has the best FBS win on their resume. They're in.
Texas has the best win in FBS. Bama > Georgia. Road > Neutral. 10 > 3.
What was Bama ranked then? What is Georgia ranked now? When was the last time Georgia lost? Who is the defending champion? How about two time champion? You can run these numbers/metrics in different directions.
Texas handed Saban his worst home loss while he’s been at Bama. It’s an all time great win. 2021 established that H2H matters (Cincy over ND). If you put Bama in over UT you’re basically disincentivizing teams from scheduling marquee non-conference games. Not saying the committee will actually do the right thing but Texas definitely should be in over Bama.
I think Texas should get in over FSU. Again, the SEC has never been left out of the CFP in all its history of selections. That's what I'm hanging my hat on and I'll be the first to say I'm wrong if the CFP Committee does otherwise.
And they still won’t be. Texas is SEC. SEC is just mad because they like having 50% of the field. Unfortunately there was 3 undefeated P5 champs this year.
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12-03-2023 12:15 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-02-2023 11:59 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:57 PM)RUScarlets Wrote: This is your classic deserving versus best argument. No idea where they go.
If only Georgia had taken care of business...
That's what makes this whole thing fun. All the speculation and second guessing.
Let me ask you and anyone who is willing to answer, what if Georgia had taken care of business, would people still be saying FSU shouldn't be in the playoff? or is this all predicated on Georgia losing and people not being able to comprehend the SEC missing the playoff?
Texas>Alabama>Georgia, and Georgia hasn't exactly had the toughest schedule, neither has FSU but FSU is undefeated.
I'll call it now, final CFP rankings, #1Michigan, #2U-Dub, #3FSU, #4Texas, #5Alabama, #6Georgia, #7OSU, #8Oregon. SEC misses the playoff.
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12-03-2023 12:15 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-02-2023 11:43 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:42 PM)unalions Wrote: Texas is out.
If they put in Alabama over Texas, they’re saying that results on the field don’t matter if you might as well schedule four cupcakes
The committee has always bent over backwards for Alabama. Why change now?
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12-03-2023 12:15 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:05 AM)Garrettabc Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:59 PM)ThunderDent Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:54 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Michigan, Texas, Alabama, Washington
So B1G vs SEC
Indeed. May as well start that favoritism filling up the playoff with the P2 early.
Same reason SMU gets the NY6. They're an ACC school.
Of what I saw these two days, , Michigan, Alabama, Texas and Washington are the clear-cut four best teams in the country.
FSU barely beat a team that lost at home to 6-5 Kentucky last week.
Did not Bama look like crap against USF? Besides that, FSU and Bama have a common opponent, compare and look this dancing banana in the eye and tell him FSU is not better,
And Alabama looked like crap the week before barely beating a bad auburn team
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-02-2023 11:43 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:42 PM)unalions Wrote: Texas is out.
If they put in Alabama over Texas, they’re saying that results on the field don’t matter if you might as well schedule four cupcakes
Folks on here might want to take a look at team strength of schedules.
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12-03-2023 12:16 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:58 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:56 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Washington, Michigan and Bama are in. Comes down to FSU/Texas. Alabama lost to Texas early and Texas lost to a lower ranked Oklahoma early. Bama has the best FBS win on their resume. They're in.
Texas has the best win in FBS. Bama > Georgia. Road > Neutral. 10 > 3.
What was Bama ranked then? What is Georgia ranked now? When was the last time Georgia lost? Who is the defending champion? How about two time champion? You can run these numbers/metrics in different directions.
Texas handed Saban his worst home loss while he’s been at Bama. It’s an all time great win. 2021 established that H2H matters (Cincy over ND). If you put Bama in over UT you’re basically disincentivizing teams from scheduling marquee non-conference games. Not saying the committee will actually do the right thing but Texas definitely should be in over Bama.
For what it's worth. I don't think Alabama will be put in over Texas. I think both are going in.
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12-03-2023 12:16 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:11 AM)Acres Wrote: The SEC or rather best football conference in the country, is not going to be left out of the playoffs. They’d blow up the whole enterprise.
They are expanding the playoff next season. So there is nothing to blow up. If the SEC is mad they should have fought to expand the playoff this season.
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12-03-2023 12:17 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
Michigan, Washington, Florida State, Texas.
That gets all undefeated P5 champs in, and the other two P5 champs played each other so the victor gets in. Going to be controversial no matter how you slice it, but to me that is the least controversial.
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12-03-2023 12:17 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
We have the best resume in the country. We have 3 top 25 wins (NONE at home). We have beaten the most bowl eligible teams in the country. We are undefeated. We are conference champs of the only conference with winning records against the SEC and the BTN.
If none of that matters, then why play the game? If it’s about the talent on the field, then just go ahead and reward the championship each year with signing day.
If that makes you feel bad, then stop following sports. Sports is about winning the game. FSU did that.
The end.
Oh… and by the way… come January 1st, enjoy Darrell Jackson everyone. If you thought our defense was good…
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:16 AM)dbackjon Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:05 AM)Garrettabc Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:59 PM)ThunderDent Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:54 PM)dbackjon Wrote: So B1G vs SEC
Indeed. May as well start that favoritism filling up the playoff with the P2 early.
Same reason SMU gets the NY6. They're an ACC school.
Of what I saw these two days, , Michigan, Alabama, Texas and Washington are the clear-cut four best teams in the country.
FSU barely beat a team that lost at home to 6-5 Kentucky last week.
Did not Bama look like crap against USF? Besides that, FSU and Bama have a common opponent, compare and look this dancing banana in the eye and tell him FSU is not better,
And Alabama looked like crap the week before barely beating a bad auburn team
I think Alabama will have beaten Louisville by 25 points today if not more. I don't think FSU could have beaten Georgia. To me that settles it.
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12-03-2023 12:18 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:16 AM)dbackjon Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:05 AM)Garrettabc Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:59 PM)ThunderDent Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:54 PM)dbackjon Wrote: So B1G vs SEC
Indeed. May as well start that favoritism filling up the playoff with the P2 early.
Same reason SMU gets the NY6. They're an ACC school.
Of what I saw these two days, , Michigan, Alabama, Texas and Washington are the clear-cut four best teams in the country.
FSU barely beat a team that lost at home to 6-5 Kentucky last week.
Did not Bama look like crap against USF? Besides that, FSU and Bama have a common opponent, compare and look this dancing banana in the eye and tell him FSU is not better,
And Alabama looked like crap the week before barely beating a bad auburn team
SMU is a G5 school from the AAC.
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-02-2023 11:58 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:56 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote: Michigan, Washington, Florida State & Texas
Texas beat Alabama. No undefeated power school will be left out.
Alabama upset the number one team in the country. *shrugs*
Except they're no longer #1. Now very few people ever consider Georgia a top 4 team. It's the inherent problem of rankings. Everyone thinks you're good until you're not and everyone changes their mind next week. Maybe Georgia wasn't as good as everyone thought. Or maybe they were. But now all Alabama has is a win against a non-top 4 team
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:17 AM)3BNole Wrote: We have the best resume in the country. We have 3 top 25 wins (NONE at home). We have beaten the most bowl eligible teams in the country. We are undefeated. We are conference champs of the only conference with winning records against the SEC and the BTN.
If none of that matters, then why play the game? If it’s about the talent on the field, then just go ahead and reward the championship each year with signing day.
If that makes you feel bad, then stop following sports. Sports is about winning the game. FSU did that.
The end.
Oh… and by the way… come January 1st, enjoy Darrell Jackson everyone. If you thought our defense was good…
Absolutely, your boys deserve a shot at the title.
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:15 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:13 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:58 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:56 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: Texas has the best win in FBS. Bama > Georgia. Road > Neutral. 10 > 3.
What was Bama ranked then? What is Georgia ranked now? When was the last time Georgia lost? Who is the defending champion? How about two time champion? You can run these numbers/metrics in different directions.
Texas handed Saban his worst home loss while he’s been at Bama. It’s an all time great win. 2021 established that H2H matters (Cincy over ND). If you put Bama in over UT you’re basically disincentivizing teams from scheduling marquee non-conference games. Not saying the committee will actually do the right thing but Texas definitely should be in over Bama.
I think Texas should get in over FSU. Again, the SEC has never been left out of the CFP in all its history of selections. That's what I'm hanging my hat on and I'll be the first to say I'm wrong if the CFP Committee does otherwise.
And they still won’t be. Texas is SEC. SEC is just mad because they like having 50% of the field. Unfortunately there was 3 undefeated P5 champs this year.
Texas is Big 12.
If they were in the SEC this season they would not even be in this conversation any more than Ole Miss is.
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
Bama needed a miracle finish to beat a 6-6 Auburn team a week ago, so the fact that Bama beat Georgia just means Georgia has been overrated all year, riding on the coattails of last year's success.
The CFP committee will not leave out an undefeated P5 champ, so the playoffs will be 1. Michigan, 2. Washington, 3. Florida State and 4. Texas. Maybe 1 & 2 are flipped, maybe 3 & 4 are flipped, but those are the 4.
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12-03-2023 12:21 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
Just don’t make FSU 4… that’s the thing. UT can’t possibly jump all the way to three. I want good matchups. UT versus UM is still a good matchup, although Bama would have been more enticing.
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:15 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:59 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:57 PM)RUScarlets Wrote: This is your classic deserving versus best argument. No idea where they go.
If only Georgia had taken care of business...
That's what makes this whole thing fun. All the speculation and second guessing.
Let me ask you and anyone who is willing to answer, what if Georgia had taken care of business, would people still be saying FSU shouldn't be in the playoff? or is this all predicated on Georgia losing and people not being able to comprehend the SEC missing the playoff?
Texas>Alabama>Georgia, and Georgia hasn't exactly had the toughest schedule, neither has FSU but FSU is undefeated.
I'll call it now, final CFP rankings, #1Michigan, #2U-Dub, #3FSU, #4Texas, #5Alabama, #6Georgia, #7OSU, #8Oregon. SEC misses the playoff.
It would be the same four that we had entering Championship Week. That's my answer, at least.
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12-03-2023 12:22 AM |
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RE: Michigan, Washington, Texas and Florida State
(12-03-2023 12:20 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:15 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:13 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: (12-03-2023 12:06 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: (12-02-2023 11:58 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: What was Bama ranked then? What is Georgia ranked now? When was the last time Georgia lost? Who is the defending champion? How about two time champion? You can run these numbers/metrics in different directions.
Texas handed Saban his worst home loss while he’s been at Bama. It’s an all time great win. 2021 established that H2H matters (Cincy over ND). If you put Bama in over UT you’re basically disincentivizing teams from scheduling marquee non-conference games. Not saying the committee will actually do the right thing but Texas definitely should be in over Bama.
I think Texas should get in over FSU. Again, the SEC has never been left out of the CFP in all its history of selections. That's what I'm hanging my hat on and I'll be the first to say I'm wrong if the CFP Committee does otherwise.
And they still won’t be. Texas is SEC. SEC is just mad because they like having 50% of the field. Unfortunately there was 3 undefeated P5 champs this year.
Texas is Big 12.
If they were in the SEC this season they would not even be in this conversation any more than Ole Miss is.
UT is SEC and they’re the best team in it. Proved it on the field.
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12-03-2023 12:23 AM |
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