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CS&CR 2023 Football Coaching Carousel
Gone --> Replacement:
Dino Babers --> Fran Brown
Mel Tucker --> Jonathan Smith
Pat Fitzgerald --> David Braun
Tom Allen --> Curt Cignetti
Jimbo Fisher --> Mike Elko
Jim Harbaugh (tbd)
OC Brian Ferentz
Zach Arnett (Miss. St.) --> Jeff Lebby
OC Mike Yurcich (Penn St.) --> Andy Kotelnicki
Brady Hoke --> Sean Lewis
Andy Avalos (Boise) --> Spencer Danielson
Jonathan Smith (OR St.) --> Trent Bray
Dana Holgerson --> Willie Fritz
Jeff Lebby (Okla. OC) --> internal guys
Sean Lewis (CO OC) --> Pat Shurmer
Willie Fritz -->
Curt Cignetti -->
Nick Saban --> Kalen Deboer
Kalen Deboer --> Jed Fisch
Jed Fisch -->


Safe:
Ryan Day
Neal Brown
Billy Napier
Sam Pittman

Candidates:
Curt Cignetti --> Indiana
Jamey Chadwell (Liberty)
Brian Hartline
Jason Candle
Mike Elko --> TAMU
Jeff Traylor (UTSA)
Sean Lewis --> SDSU
Jon Sumrall (Troy)
Jeff Lebby (Okla.) --> Miss. St.
Chris Creighton
Mike Gundy
Lance Leipold
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Is Neal Brown really safe?
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Jimbo's an interesting prediction. The Aggies practically built him a statue for going 8-4 and beating Alabama once, not to mention that huge guaranteed contract extension. They really are a participation trophy school as opposed to one that truly competes for titles most years. Unless the wheels fall off this year, he's safe.
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Avalos's seat at Boise State is very hot right now.
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This has gotta be Jason Candle's last year in the MAC. This will be his 3rd MAC CHampionship, Toledo regularly putting up 9 win seasons.
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Wonder if Dan Mullen would be a candidate for Syracuse. He was a GA there back in the day.

I could see Bryan Harsin easily back at Boise State.
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(10-27-2023 06:40 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Is Neal Brown really safe?

yes. wvu is on the up..
10-30-2023 02:01 PM
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(10-27-2023 10:04 AM)Just Joe Wrote:  Jimbo's an interesting prediction. The Aggies practically built him a statue for going 8-4 and beating Alabama once, not to mention that huge guaranteed contract extension. They really are a participation trophy school as opposed to one that truly competes for titles most years. Unless the wheels fall off this year, he's safe.

Congratulations, you're 1-1 against teams in Texas this year, after beating us both by a total of 3 points last year. Tick tock, Saban is 70 and Father Time is Undefeated.

Jimbo isn't safe, but he's probably not getting fired unless he manages to pull out another losing season or 2. As it is now, we'd be better off spending that money on NIL rather than paying him off. Long term? All bets are off, either he wins and gets an actual Statue or he doesn't and he turns into a poor man's Kevin Sumlin.

As for Harbaugh, is that a joke? If he was 22-16 like Tucker was and had a $95m contract, ok, maybe I could see it. However, he's beaten tOSU 2 years in a row and very nearly made the Championship Game last year. He's not going to be forced to leave unless he pisses off someone far more important and powerful than Jim Stapleton. Tucker looked like a creep for what he did at MSU, Harbaugh looks like a guy who just barely dipped his toe across the line at Michigan in the pursuit of on-field excellence.

And what about Napier? He's 11-10 over his first 2 years, including 5-3 this year. Jimbo is 10-10 over the past 2 years, including 5-3 this year. Jimbo has an incredibly difficult contract for us to get out of, we'd owe him $77m if he was fired during or after this season, while Napier has a comparatively modest contract that will only have about $37m left on it after this season. Also, UF would only have to pay 85% of that (.85 x $37m = $31.45m) if they fired him during or after this season. He's had the worst start to a tenure of any UF coach since 1980. If people want to say that A&M is so well off that we can afford to pay 2.5x what UF would pay to replace a coach...ok, I mean, I appreciate the compliment, but it's not reasonable. UF has the same resources we do, the same very wealthy and very nutty alumni, and the same ability to replace a coach who isn't getting the job done.
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(10-30-2023 04:38 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-27-2023 10:04 AM)Just Joe Wrote:  Jimbo's an interesting prediction. The Aggies practically built him a statue for going 8-4 and beating Alabama once, not to mention that huge guaranteed contract extension. They really are a participation trophy school as opposed to one that truly competes for titles most years. Unless the wheels fall off this year, he's safe.

Congratulations, you're 1-1 against teams in Texas this year, after beating us both by a total of 3 points last year. Tick tock, Saban is 70 and Father Time is Undefeated.

Jimbo isn't safe, but he's probably not getting fired unless he manages to pull out another losing season or 2. As it is now, we'd be better off spending that money on NIL rather than paying him off. Long term? All bets are off, either he wins and gets an actual Statue or he doesn't and he turns into a poor man's Kevin Sumlin.

As for Harbaugh, is that a joke? If he was 22-16 like Tucker was and had a $95m contract, ok, maybe I could see it. However, he's beaten tOSU 2 years in a row and very nearly made the Championship Game last year. He's not going to be forced to leave unless he pisses off someone far more important and powerful than Jim Stapleton. Tucker looked like a creep for what he did at MSU, Harbaugh looks like a guy who just barely dipped his toe across the line at Michigan in the pursuit of on-field excellence.

Aggies joining the conference was great because it further opened Texas up for SEC recruiting. You were mediocre in the Big 12 as opposed to being any sort of power and you've been mediocre in the SEC. Last Aggie division or conference title was in 1998. Really the only sustained winning run was in the dying days of the SWC under two coaches (Sherrill & RC). And FWIW I liked RC and believe that ironically the extended mediocrity of the last 20 years can be traced back to his firing and you stealing Bama's overrated HC. As far as results, you look a lot more like Tech than Texas, much less Alabama.
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2023 Hot Seat Rankings: Heat stays on Tom Allen, Jimbo Fisher as Jim Harbaugh, Sam Pittman, Brady Hoke rise
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...hoke-rise/

Bryce Miller: Football coach Brady Hoke faces criticism about direction of Aztecs’ program
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...brady-hoke

Brady Hoke Hot Seat: 5 Candidates For San Diego State Football’s Head Coach Replacement
https://herosports.com/fbs-brady-hoke-ho...ment-cpcp/
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Really surprised Hoke is struggling in San Diego. I remember his first go around in 2009 and 2010 while I lived in SoCal. You saw Aztec gear everywhere. It seemed everyone was an Aztec fan, including me.

Don’t know what happened but I would hate to see Hoke lose his job. I would like to see him get 1 more year.
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(11-04-2023 06:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Really surprised Hoke is struggling in San Diego. I remember his first go around in 2009 and 2010 while I lived in SoCal. You saw Aztec gear everywhere. It seemed everyone was an Aztec fan, including me.

Don’t know what happened but I would hate to see Hoke lose his job. I would like to see him get 1 more year.

A bunch of people suddenly became Aztec fans because they went 9-4 one season?

He has a career record of 104-89. He’s a mediocre head coach.
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(11-04-2023 07:07 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  
(11-04-2023 06:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Really surprised Hoke is struggling in San Diego. I remember his first go around in 2009 and 2010 while I lived in SoCal. You saw Aztec gear everywhere. It seemed everyone was an Aztec fan, including me.

Don’t know what happened but I would hate to see Hoke lose his job. I would like to see him get 1 more year.

A bunch of people suddenly became Aztec fans because they went 9-4 one season?

He has a career record of 104-89. He’s a mediocre head coach.

You would have to live in SoCal to understand. When it comes to college football everything is SC there. San Diego State was / still is the upstart looking for an opportunity to compete with The PAC.

If a college football fan doesn’t appreciate G5 programs who bust their backsides to compete with the P5 money conferences, I doubt you would understand.

Louisville fans, like TCU, Utah, WVU, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston faithful understand fighting for recognition and a system purposely put together to keep them from competing.

Personally I like seeing programs like Memphis, USF, ECU, and SDSU win despite the obstacles put in front of them.
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I’m a fan of a G5 school and I live in Alabama. So I certainly understand the struggles schools that don’t start with an A have here.

I just question how popular they suddenly became for having one good season with their biggest win being over Air Force.

He seems to have one good season in every one of his stops with a bunch of average to bad seasons otherwise. He’s already had one good season this time around so they should probably get rid of him now.

And I don’t hate to see any FBS head coach lose his job. He should have enough money to survive.
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Candidate: Rich Rod (maybe to replace Beamer at South Carolina?)
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(11-04-2023 10:21 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  I’m a fan of a G5 school and I live in Alabama. So I certainly understand the struggles schools that don’t start with an A have here.

I just question how popular they suddenly became for having one good season with their biggest win being over Air Force.

He seems to have one good season in every one of his stops with a bunch of average to bad seasons otherwise. He’s already had one good season this time around so they should probably get rid of him now.

And I don’t hate to see any FBS head coach lose his job. He should have enough money to survive.

It was after decades of really "meh" teams. But, Hoke had Rocky Long as his DC and a better offensive staff than he has now. Many here are questioning his energy in this go around, openly asking if he isn't retiring while still coaching. I would be fine with firing him if they can lure a good quality HC and assistance while buying out his contract.
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IU upsets Wisconsin with a few winnable games left in the season. Allen might have gotten bought out if they lost out to go 2-10, but if they finish 4-8 or whatever they’ll probably keep him around.
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(11-04-2023 08:19 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(11-04-2023 07:07 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  
(11-04-2023 06:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Really surprised Hoke is struggling in San Diego. I remember his first go around in 2009 and 2010 while I lived in SoCal. You saw Aztec gear everywhere. It seemed everyone was an Aztec fan, including me.

Don’t know what happened but I would hate to see Hoke lose his job. I would like to see him get 1 more year.

A bunch of people suddenly became Aztec fans because they went 9-4 one season?

He has a career record of 104-89. He’s a mediocre head coach.

You would have to live in SoCal to understand. When it comes to college football everything is SC there. San Diego State was / still is the upstart looking for an opportunity to compete with The PAC.

If a college football fan doesn’t appreciate G5 programs who bust their backsides to compete with the P5 money conferences, I doubt you would understand.

Louisville fans, like TCU, Utah, WVU, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston faithful understand fighting for recognition and a system purposely put together to keep them from competing.

Personally I like seeing programs like Memphis, USF, ECU, and SDSU win despite the obstacles put in front of them.

Take out WVU. They have always been the "Big State U" of West Virginia. Marshall is the scrappy underdog winning despite the obstacles
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I don’t follow this side of the sport. Is Napier safe? Seems a nice guy.
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(11-04-2023 03:05 PM)Crayton Wrote:  I don’t follow this side of the sport. Is Napier safe? Seems a nice guy.

Less safe than he was this morning.
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