RE: *** Official #22 Air Force at Navy Game Thread ***
(10-20-2023 08:47 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(10-20-2023 07:47 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:
(10-19-2023 09:43 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(10-19-2023 06:31 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:
(10-18-2023 06:34 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote: 4 Generations of Air Force Pilots in my family starting with my Grandfather who was a WWII Fighter Ace in the Pacific, so I have to go with Air Force on this one.
I thank your family for guarding our shores and bringing the lamp of freedom to blighted lands.
Did your grandfather belong to the United States Army Air Forces during WWII? I am interested in the history of the conflict and appreciate your indulgence.
Good mention of the Army Air Forces.
USAFA is wearing their annual airpower heritage uniforms. Honoring the Doolittle Raiders this year...Army Air Corps pilots launching off the Navy's USS Hornet aircraft carrier. It is possible that the Colorado Springs Zoomie Zoo has the LEAST claim on Doolittle's Raiders of any of the three FBS Academies.
I understand the competitive juices between the branches still flow freely, but from my perspective the Doolittle raid is an American story undoable without the dedication from those manning the assembly line creating B-25's to those brave volunteers precariously lifting from a pitching deck into an unimaginably risky mission.
Certainly no negative comment on the Doolittle Raid, the Doolittle Raiders or the national effort behind it.
Actually a great study. To paraphrase Napoleon, it is about both the moral and the material. Strategic impact far beyond tactical effects. It is also far from what the airpower zealots paint it as.
Comment on industrial base is important. It is fascinating to count the USN aircraft carriers in the Pacific.in Jan 1942 and at the time of Leyte Gulf less than three years later - without checking notes from 7 up to 99. And today's conflicts around the globe highlight the continuing importance of the Defense Industrial Base...and our shortcomings.
All that said -- USAFA and Falcon football claiming the legacy of units and events that predate not just their school's but tgeir service's existence? Yeah that's always worth poking fun.
The one thing we can be certain of is that USAFA had absolutely no impact on the Doolittle raid.
I personally would like to see the Departments of the Army and Airforce merged and the AFA eliminated. We have too much bureaucracy relative to our service sizes and the AFA doesn't really bring anything particularly useful to the table. (Not that anyone is listening to me.)
RE: *** Official #22 Air Force at Navy Game Thread ***
Navy didn't win this game, but they did prove that Air Force isn't a lock for the Access Bowl. I feel very confident they are going to lose at least one game left in their schedule. Probably two, when they play UNLV and Boise.
I think Fresno State is the bigger threat to the AAC's chances of earning the access bowl. They have wins over Purdue & Arizona State. If the run the table, and 1 loss Fresno would probably get the New Year's Day slot.
RE: *** Official #22 Air Force at Navy Game Thread ***
(10-22-2023 08:08 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: Navy didn't win this game, but they did prove that Air Force isn't a lock for the Access Bowl. I feel very confident they are going to lose at least one game left in their schedule. Probably two, when they play UNLV and Boise.
I think Fresno State is the bigger threat to the AAC's chances of earning the access bowl. They have wins over Purdue & Arizona State. If the run the table, and 1 loss Fresno would probably get the New Year's Day slot.
Good point about Fresno. The worst scenario for the AAC would be one-loss Fresno and AFA playing for the MW title.
About AFA though, I'm not so sure that Navy exposed them. This was a rivalry game played 1,600 miles across the country. Those can be tough.
IMO, if Tulane does run the table and Air Force doesn't, it likely will be because the MW is better than the AAC.
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