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Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-11-2023 02:31 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1009...ter-week-6
Jacob is #25
Zeno has been very good.
The only knock on him from my standpoint is that when he turns it over, it's almost always a catastrophic, game-changing turnover. He hasn't turned it over a ton, but it's been a recurring issue.
The pick last week against USF in the redzone was BAD. That could've turned the tide of the game. The fumble inside the 1 yard line against Tulane was obviously catastrophic to our chances in that game. He's had multiple near pick sixes. He had an intentional grounding penalty that took us out of field goal range, or go-for-it-on-fourth-down range, against USF, as well.
If he cleans up some of his decision making he could be elite. He makes throws to all levels of the field, is mobile, and usually can be counted on to make the right play.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-11-2023 03:41 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: (10-11-2023 02:31 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1009...ter-week-6
Jacob is #25
Zeno has been very good.
The only knock on him from my standpoint is that when he turns it over, it's almost always a catastrophic, game-changing turnover. He hasn't turned it over a ton, but it's been a recurring issue.
The pick last week against USF in the redzone was BAD. That could've turned the tide of the game. The fumble inside the 1 yard line against Tulane was obviously catastrophic to our chances in that game. He's had multiple near pick sixes. He had an intentional grounding penalty that took us out of field goal range, or go-for-it-on-fourth-down range, against USF, as well.
If he cleans up some of his decision making he could be elite. He makes throws to all levels of the field, is mobile, and usually can be counted on to make the right play.
I agree with all of that. He makes relatively few mistakes, but the mistakes he does make tend to be the type of head scratchingly bad mistakes a much worse QB would make.
Like, i can see a bad QB deciding to dive over the line on the goalline even though the team had never practiced that, then butt fumbling the ball because he had never practiced it, but its not something I would expect a good QB to do. I would expect a bad QB to throw it right to a defender with no receivers in the area, but not a good QB, yet Zeno has done that multiple times and had several sure fire INTs dropped.
In his defense, he has been under pressure pretty consistently whenever we try and get him to do something where the ball is in his hands for more than 2.5 seconds. Still, he makes the mistakes you would expect of a QB that has more INTs than TDs and a 50% completion percentage, yet he's completing 76% of his passes and has 12 TDs to 5 INTs. He probably should have 8 INTs just based on opposing DBs dropping gimmies, but even then, over all he's not playing like the type of QB that would be making the mistakes he sometimes does.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
For the record I don’t think the int Saturday was on him. It was a back shoulder throw but the receiver curled to the field. The back shoulder was the right ball placement.
The fumble at TU was truly bad but he never got the ball cleanly at the snap. In that situation you just hit the dirt and cover it
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
What # is Dylan Hopkins?
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
I don't think there are 24 out there better than Zeno. He's put up these numbers in spite of his mediocre OL.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-11-2023 08:28 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote: I don't think there are 24 out there better than Zeno. He's put up these numbers in spite of his mediocre OL.
Yep. I think his interception come in to play when he's trying to throw a catchable ball versus zinging it on in to the receiver.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-11-2023 07:00 PM)LairDweller Wrote: What # is Dylan Hopkins?
Dylan is an exceptionally talented quarterback. Dylan was handicapped at UAB because Bryant Vincent was the Offensive Coordinator. Dylan is now the quarterback at New Mexico and he is still suffering under the same lousy OC.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
Something I’ve noticed is on nearly every bad INT he does a half pump fake almost as if he knows he’s pushing the boundary’s a little too much. You can take that as a positive or negative. He is self aware and has a rock he can identify and not do, or that he probably knows he shouldn’t but does it anyway. Almost Every time that INT is the sole mistake though
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-12-2023 01:29 AM)BlazerBlitz Wrote: (10-11-2023 07:00 PM)LairDweller Wrote: What # is Dylan Hopkins?
Dylan is an exceptionally talented quarterback. Dylan was handicapped at UAB because Bryant Vincent was the Offensive Coordinator. Dylan is now the quarterback at New Mexico and he is still suffering under the same lousy OC.
Are you referring to the same Bryant Vincent who as OC in his last stint helped guide UAB to a 35-15 record? The same pathetic coaching that resulted in three straight conference championship appearances with two of those being wins. The same horrible coach who’s final appearance as OC was that embarrassing win over a 13th ranked team
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-11-2023 06:43 PM)biglizard Wrote: For the record I don’t think the int Saturday was on him. It was a back shoulder throw but the receiver curled to the field. The back shoulder was the right ball placement.
The fumble at TU was truly bad but he never got the ball cleanly at the snap. In that situation you just hit the dirt and cover it
That’s what I said Saturday. That one was on the receiver. Yea the one at Tulane was inexcusable.
I also agree he has had some picks dropped. He has also had some sure first downs and TDs dropped as well by his receivers.
Hey isn’t it nice to having a QB ranked?
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
Yes, it is.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-12-2023 08:10 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote: (10-12-2023 01:29 AM)BlazerBlitz Wrote: (10-11-2023 07:00 PM)LairDweller Wrote: What # is Dylan Hopkins?
Dylan is an exceptionally talented quarterback. Dylan was handicapped at UAB because Bryant Vincent was the Offensive Coordinator. Dylan is now the quarterback at New Mexico and he is still suffering under the same lousy OC.
Are you referring to the same Bryant Vincent who as OC in his last stint helped guide UAB to a 35-15 record? The same pathetic coaching that resulted in three straight conference championship appearances with two of those being wins. The same horrible coach who’s final appearance as OC was that embarrassing win over a 13th ranked team
Was mr.28 points a game responsible for our success or was our defense with a former broyles award nominee responsible for that run?
I’ll put the 2 losses to Liberty and Rice solely on Vincent. That’s at least 4 on him.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-12-2023 09:51 AM)UABFAN23 Wrote: (10-12-2023 08:10 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote: (10-12-2023 01:29 AM)BlazerBlitz Wrote: (10-11-2023 07:00 PM)LairDweller Wrote: What # is Dylan Hopkins?
Dylan is an exceptionally talented quarterback. Dylan was handicapped at UAB because Bryant Vincent was the Offensive Coordinator. Dylan is now the quarterback at New Mexico and he is still suffering under the same lousy OC.
Are you referring to the same Bryant Vincent who as OC in his last stint helped guide UAB to a 35-15 record? The same pathetic coaching that resulted in three straight conference championship appearances with two of those being wins. The same horrible coach who’s final appearance as OC was that embarrassing win over a 13th ranked team
Was mr.28 points a game responsible for our success or was our defense with a former broyles award nominee responsible for that run?
I’ll put the 2 losses to Liberty and Rice solely on Vincent. That’s at least 4 on him.
Not to mention, also made living beating up on the UTEPs and Charlottes of the world…
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-12-2023 09:51 AM)UABFAN23 Wrote: (10-12-2023 08:10 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote: (10-12-2023 01:29 AM)BlazerBlitz Wrote: (10-11-2023 07:00 PM)LairDweller Wrote: What # is Dylan Hopkins?
Dylan is an exceptionally talented quarterback. Dylan was handicapped at UAB because Bryant Vincent was the Offensive Coordinator. Dylan is now the quarterback at New Mexico and he is still suffering under the same lousy OC.
Are you referring to the same Bryant Vincent who as OC in his last stint helped guide UAB to a 35-15 record? The same pathetic coaching that resulted in three straight conference championship appearances with two of those being wins. The same horrible coach who’s final appearance as OC was that embarrassing win over a 13th ranked team
Was mr.28 points a game responsible for our success or was our defense with a former broyles award nominee responsible for that run?
I’ll put the 2 losses to Liberty and Rice solely on Vincent. That’s at least 4 on him.
Power ball control football complements a defense. I’ll take 28 points a game all day every day when it comes with winning seasons and conference championships. Regardless Bill Clark and his style of football is gone. The king is dead long live the king
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
(10-12-2023 08:10 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote: (10-12-2023 01:29 AM)BlazerBlitz Wrote: (10-11-2023 07:00 PM)LairDweller Wrote: What # is Dylan Hopkins?
Dylan is an exceptionally talented quarterback. Dylan was handicapped at UAB because Bryant Vincent was the Offensive Coordinator. Dylan is now the quarterback at New Mexico and he is still suffering under the same lousy OC.
Are you referring to the same Bryant Vincent who as OC in his last stint helped guide UAB to a 35-15 record? The same pathetic coaching that resulted in three straight conference championship appearances with two of those being wins. The same horrible coach who’s final appearance as OC was that embarrassing win over a 13th ranked team
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
Vincent wasn’t horrible but he did call boring offense. Hate that everything went down the way it did but the offensive scheme was hand the ball the the NFL caliber RB and if we need to throw a bomb to our 1-2 speed WR. If the passing game was working it wouldn’t matter we didn’t adapt well. I agree that overall competition in CUSA wasn’t amazing. I’m thankful for what he did and also thankful we moved on.
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RE: Ranking Top 25 Quarterbacks in College Football After Week 6
Zeno's 4th in completion % at 75.5, 10th in total yards (1795) and 14th in ypg (299.2).
FYI, Hopkins has completed 55.9% and they're both at 7.7 yds/attempt, so it sounds like Vincent is still primarily using the QB for 'bombs-away.'
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