What is everyone's opinion on Riddell?

A) He is pretty good but the current staff/game plans are not built well for him and have caused him to regress

B) He is just not that good but the previous staff/game plans were able to work around it

(10-03-2023 12:42 PM)Meanmike0001 Wrote:  What is everyone's opinion on Riddell?

A) He is pretty good but the current staff/game plans are not built well for him and have caused him to regress

B) He is just not that good but the previous staff/game plans were able to work around it

Great questions! First we must say that after looking at all our quarterbacks that Tyler is far and away the best we have. Sanders also saw that and built an offense that allowed the team to win a conference championship. Tyler can come back next year and the new coach, if we have one, may or may not decide to use his skills. It will be interesting to see who is brought in to play the position for us. We are not going to get a Caleb Williams but we should be able to get a more mobile and able FCS level quarterback. It all depends of who the coach is.

(10-03-2023 12:42 PM)Meanmike0001 Wrote:  What is everyone's opinion on Riddell?

A) He is pretty good but the current staff/game plans are not built well for him and have caused him to regress

B) He is just not that good but the previous staff/game plans were able to work around it

Well..................I think he's 'decent', or even "pretty good", but, as others have correctly stated, without a competent O-line, he's just quickly in trouble too much of the time. I've been puzzled as to why, *especially* when Riddell was injured, they didn't try Borisch at QB, in a play-action kind of role. Sort of a run/pass option thing. He's quick and strong enough to run it to the outside, and can definitely throw it, even if he's not NFL material in that realm. IMO that's a weapon that hasn't been utilized nearly enough - if at all in that guise. Yeah, May was probably a more 'bruising', strength runner, but Borisch did pretty well for the Vandals; they were sorry to see him go.

One of the underappreciated aspects of being a successful QB is the hand action after getting the snap. We've had some at ETSU that didn't have that smooth skill. Riddell does have it, but without successful blocking schemes/talent, that gets minimized. I am pretty confident that if he were on a SoCon team with a strong O-line he would be quite successful. In a P5 conference? Maybe not so much (altho I wouldn't say absolutely not); but he does, imo, have the basic tools, *as well as* the requisite toughness and mind-set, to be successful at this level.

Would you consider Randy Sanders a coach who could bring in a mobile, competent FCS QB. If you answer is yes, then why didn't he. Sanders brought in at least 10+ QBs. One yr he had 7 QB on roster. Not a single one panned out. He forced two of those QBs into starting roles with disastrous results.

As I've said before, it's going to take a lot more than a coach to revitalize the football program.

(10-03-2023 07:38 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Would you consider Randy Sanders a coach who could bring in a mobile, competent FCS QB. If you answer is yes, then why didn't he. Sanders brought in at least 10+ QBs. One yr he had 7 QB on roster. Not a single one panned out. He forced two of those QBs into starting roles with disastrous results.

As I've said before, it's going to take a lot more than a coach to revitalize the football program.

Sanders won 2, count ‘em, 2 chips in his short time on campus. Whatever the Hel he did worked and he attracted tremendous talent. The goofball we have now couldn’t recruit a kicker no less a QB. The city is beautiful, the facilities are fine, the campus is wonderful but nobody is buying whatever it is he is trying to sell. Randy left an entire line up of kids he won with. We handed that over to Gomer Pile and have crashed and burned from Day 1. Your view that the cupboards were bare and Randy couldn’t recruit a QB is non sensical. He recruited the one he won a chip with, that’s what good coaches do because they have the skills to do so. Gomer has managed to do the exact opposite and he, and you and the excuse makers want to look around and blame the players, the portal, prior coaching staff, NIL, facilities and a hundred other things with 0 accountability for the leaders. Real BS is what it is. The QB can play in the right system and is a great kid. One coach could win with him, one coach could not win with him but couldn’t win with Bradshaw under center

How much more time do they realistically give Quarles to pull out of this nosedive that we're in? I'm worried we're going to see less and less turnout for our games, this weekend will be very telling.

(10-04-2023 11:47 AM)GoBucs09 Wrote:  How much more time do they realistically give Quarles to pull out of this nosedive that we're in? I'm worried we're going to see less and less turnout for our games, this weekend will be very telling.

I am thinking this must be the last year. When the announcement is made is unknown. Sander did not hire Quarles and has no loyalty to him. Both he and Dr. Noland are plugged in to the situation and may have already made the decision. I hope word gets out and coaches who want a chance will get to apply. That will give a lot of time before December when they are free to take another job. They need to bring in people who can do the due diligence to make a great hire for us. No real reason for WCU and UTC to have much better programs than us.

(10-04-2023 12:42 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 11:47 AM)GoBucs09 Wrote:  How much more time do they realistically give Quarles to pull out of this nosedive that we're in? I'm worried we're going to see less and less turnout for our games, this weekend will be very telling.

I am thinking this must be the last year. When the announcement is made is unknown. Sander did not hire Quarles and has no loyalty to him. Both he and Dr. Noland are plugged in to the situation and may have already made the decision. I hope word gets out and coaches who want a chance will get to apply. That will give a lot of time before December when they are free to take another job. They need to bring in people who can do the due diligence to make a great hire for us. No real reason for WCU and UTC to have much better programs than us.

Can't keep him at 3-8 or worse. 4-7...could go either way. 5-6 or better (which is very unlikely) and he is back.

(10-03-2023 07:38 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Would you consider Randy Sanders a coach who could bring in a mobile, competent FCS QB. If you answer is yes, then why didn't he. Sanders brought in at least 10+ QBs. One yr he had 7 QB on roster. Not a single one panned out. He forced two of those QBs into starting roles with disastrous results.

As I've said before, it's going to take a lot more than a coach to revitalize the football program.

What?? Tyler Riddell and Austin Herink actually fit what Sanders wanted - two playoff teams, one that was not only seeded but advanced. The other one fumbled on the goal line to take it to OT. I still don’t know what the hell you’re talking about in bad facilities, and no, a good coach can turn this around quickly using the portal. It’s been done right down the road at Western, and we have better facilities than they do, although you apparently think Cullowhee is where everyone wants to go. I’m sure they have a hell of an NIL for the new brewery in Silva.

I think Riddell was fantastic for us in 21, last year not as good but still putting up some numbers. Can't help but feel that this staff has squandered his potential.