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(10-04-2023 01:08 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  Clemson's star has faded a bit over the past couple of years, yet they're still drawing big numbers. It's not unlike FSU or Miami in their down periods, or any strong brand for that matter. They draw huge numbers at their peak (like 10m watching Clemson-ND in 2020) and they still get a bunch of 4-5m games when they finish ranked in the teens a few years later (or 7m against FSU the other day for that matter). Even mighty Alabama draws more eyeballs when they play A&M than when they Ms St, and Clemson will draw the eyeballs against Alabama like we do, or Tennessee, or Florida, etc etc. One of the SEC's great strengths in fact is that there are so many strong brands (with 2 more coming next year) that every week is a threat to have a couple Big Games. You could argue that the very top of the B1G is stronger, but with only 3 of them (until next year) it's hard for them to have as many big games from week to week (and thus harder for them to keep all their media partners fed).

Hmmmm, thinking about the above, it seems like the SEC would benefit much more from splitting out our contract than the B1G has. With Bama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Auburn, A&M, OU, UT, the other UT, plus other solid brands with interesting stories/coaches like Kentucky and Ole' Miss, and dare I say FSU and Clemson down the road...there's every reason to expect that we'll have 2-3 games every single week that will draw massive fan interest. No need for NBC to fear getting stuck with an endless litany of Indiana-Rugers or Purdue-Illinois snooze fests and losing the ratings battles to the BTN, but rather it's a feast of Auburn-LSU, A&M-Florida, Bama-Clemson, etc etc etc.

I see we've reached agreement, the SEC's deal with ESPN/ABC is below what it should be in both money and exposure. Holding that grudge against CBS for not paying more for the game of the week (and yes, $55M a year was absurdly low) before the contract expired really opened a big opportunity for the B1G.

But also, NBC knew what they were getting into with the B1G's 2023 schedule. There were a ton of quotes about how NBC wasn't that interested in the B1G until UCLA/USC were going to join, likely because they could simulate schedules for a 14 team B1G and see they were snooze fests. NBC is now a huge beneficiary from UO/UW joining in 2024, so it worked out well for them.

Going all in with ESPN in a contract that is yet to be revealed, helped the SEC land Oklahoma and Texas, and soon enough it will help the SEC get what they want from the ACC. The problem with CBS was not only their refusal to adjust for A&M and Missouri's audience share, but because their announcers were universally despised in by SEC fans.

Your slinging a lot of crap against the wall not to have any hard numbers from which to do it. The proof will be in the pudding!

I think Verne and Gary are just universally despised, period.

I don't think it's all crap against the wall. I mean, saying that the money is below value is kind of crap against the wall, because we don't conclusively know that yet since the full contract isn't revealed yet as you note. Though I am inclined to believe that if we're at the point where it seems on the table that UGA/Auburn won't play every year, something's funky in moneyland. As for exposure, the B1G has 3 guaranteed OTA slots every week, the SEC likely has somewhere between 2 and 3 (even if it's closer to 3) because of ESPN/ABC deals with ACC & Big XII.

Auburn vs UGa and Alabama vs UTen are just leverage to push the network and the presidents into 9 or 10 conference games. Hugh Freeze mentioned it after the game Saturday and has been walking that one back every since. I think if Sankey wanted to move from respected like Slive to hated that would be the way to go. It also allows for pressure on the ADs when it comes to their rigidity in scheduling.

When we move to 20 or 24 schools in the Big 10 and SEC you will see a return to 6 team regional divisions likely with 2 protected rivals from other divisions and and a rotation of the rest completed within 4 years. Think 10 games minimum. If there is a breakaway we'll be moving to an all P game schedule possibly with no OOC games and we'll have a preseason game instead of a Spring Game and it will be an actual game against a local FCS or G5 state school who needs the payday. It will represent the 7th home ticket in the season book and likely be played the 3rd week of August.

The threat against these rival games are almost always a threat to get a concession.

Thanks, that's good news. I missed the Freeze comments.

(10-03-2023 09:41 AM)IWantToTalkToRalphSampson Wrote:  Article Here

Not sure this is anything new but wanted to post it as I saw in on FSU site this AM.

Thanks for sharing this. It's an interesting summary of developments in the Carolinas since the ACC's decision to expand a few weeks back—especially as informed by B12 experiences enforcing that conference's grant of rights.

The reports out of Clemson confirm my feeling that the arrival of Cal, SMU, and Stanford next summer is accelerating some timetables. We'll see what happens.