I saw a post on my Facebook feed where someone had shared a post from Twitter about a 32 team BIG and SEC. I didn't save it unfortunately or I would have posted it here. I'll try to find it and post it.

(09-27-2023 03:34 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I saw a post on my Facebook feed where someone had shared a post from Twitter about a 32 team BIG and SEC. I didn't save it unfortunately or I would have posted it here. This is my iteration of the list.

BIG

Arizona
Arizona State
Boston College
BYU
California
Colorado
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oregon
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Rutgers
Stanford
Syracuse
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin

SEC

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Baylor
Clemson
Duke
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Kentucky
Louisville
LSU
Miami (FL)
Mississippi State
Missouri
NC State
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Ole Miss
South Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
West Virginia

No, too many undesirables. P2 + 1 or 2 Best of Rest.

32 each?

Power 70 minus 6: Boston College, Oregon St, SMU, Wake Forest, Washington St
> Notre Dame remains independent scheduling a minimum of 5 B1G schools and 5 SEC schools each season. Notre Dame gets TV rights to its home games and the conferences get TV rights to their home games.

B1G
Atlantic: Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, Virginia
Central: Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Utah, Wisconsin
Midwest: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Northwestern, Ohio St, Penn St, Purdue
Pacific: Arizona, Arizona St, California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington

SEC
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Clemson, Louisville, North Carolina, North Carolina St, Virginia Tech
South: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt
Southeast: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida St, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee
Southwest: Baylor, BYU, Houston, Iowa St, Kansas St, Oklahoma St, TCU, Texas Tech

Some of the schools will not be invited to the Big 10, and some of the schools will not be invited to the SEC.

BIG

Arizona
Arizona State
Boston College
BYU
California
Colorado
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oregon
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Rutgers
Stanford
Syracuse
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin

SEC

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Baylor
Clemson
Duke
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Kentucky
Louisville
LSU
Miami (FL)
Mississippi State
Missouri
NC State
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Ole Miss
South Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
West Virginia

Bold ones are real questionable. If your taking all of these why go through the realignment process?

Still doing divisions huh?

If you’re going to apply a number then a group of 6 playing 5 games vs each other fulfills the NCAA requirement for FBS scheduling within a conference. So I’ll go thirty in each with each having three revenue tiers.

B1G Black:
- OSU, UM, ND, PSU, USC, UO.
B1G LTD:
- East: MSU, Purdue, IL, WI, IU, NW
- West: UW, UCLA, NEB, MN, IO, Furd
B1G Basic:
- East: GT, Rutgers, MD, Duke, Pitt, Cuse
- West: Cal, UU, CU, AZ, ASU, KU

SEC Black
- UF, UGA, Bama, UT, OU, FSU
SEC LTD
- East: UNC, KY, TN, SC, MIA, Clem
- West: A&M, Miss, MSU, Aub, LSU, Ark
SEC Basic:
- East: NCSt, VT, LV, Vandy, Mizzou, UVA
- West: TCU, Bay, OSU, KSU, Mizzou, TTU

Play the 5 in your group then everything else is a la carte. I’d have the Black from the SEC and B1G play 3 games vs each other.

CFP autobids
- B1G Black: 2
- B1G LTD: 2
- B1G basic: 1
- SEC Black: 2
- SEC LTD: 2
- SEC basic: 1
- At Large: 2

Suspension of disbelief broken at BYU to Big Ten.

(09-27-2023 04:50 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  BIG

Arizona
Arizona State
Boston College
BYU
California
Colorado
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oregon
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Rutgers
Stanford
Syracuse
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin

SEC

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Baylor
Clemson
Duke
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Kentucky
Louisville
LSU
Miami (FL)
Mississippi State
Missouri
NC State
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Ole Miss
South Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
West Virginia

Bold ones are real questionable. If you taking all of these why go through the realignment process?

Consolidation. Again, this is my iteration of the list that I found that someone else made.

This has two advantages. First, it makes some semblance of sense geographically. Second, it keeps almost all of the current P4 programs in the fold.

But it has no chance at happening, ever, for reasons too numerous to set forth here.

(09-27-2023 05:43 PM)tf8693 Wrote:  This has two advantages. First, it makes some semblance of sense geographically. Second, it keeps almost all of the current P4 programs in the fold.

But it has no chance at happening, ever, for reasons too numerous to set forth here.

True. I even swapped Maryland and Missouri between the BIG and SEC, but I left them where they are because there would be people who would say that would never happen.

I found the screenshot I was talking about.

(10-05-2023 10:08 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Found the screenshot I was talking about.

I like it!!! But I don't know about tOSU and Michigan only playing every other year.

Also, I think the UNC/Duke pod should be with the VT/UVA, UK/Louisville and Clemson/USC-e pods. It leaves a whole in the footprint otherwise. And the division with 4 Florida and 4 North Carolina Schools is mis-aligned. All they have in common is that they have 4 schools in their respective states. And do you need 4 NC schools?

(10-06-2023 01:03 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(10-05-2023 10:08 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Found the screenshot I was talking about.

I like it!!! But I don't know about tOSU and Michigan only playing every other year.

Also, I think the UNC/Duke pod should be with the VT/UVA, UK/Louisville and Clemson/USC-e pods. It leaves a whole in the footprint otherwise. And the division with 4 Florida and 4 North Carolina Schools is mis-aligned. All they have in common is that they have 4 schools in their respective states. And do you need 4 NC schools?

My problem is Rutgers being in the SEC. They should be swapped out for West Virginia. You don't need all four North Carolina, but having stay together keeps their rivalries alive.

(09-27-2023 04:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Some of the schools will not be invited to the Big 10, and some of the schools will not be invited to the SEC.

Bold prediction

(09-27-2023 04:50 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  BIG

Arizona
Arizona State
Boston College
BYU
California
Colorado
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oregon
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Rutgers
Stanford
Syracuse
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin

SEC

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Baylor
Clemson
Duke
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Kentucky
Louisville
LSU
Miami (FL)
Mississippi State
Missouri
NC State
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Ole Miss
South Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
West Virginia

Bold ones are real questionable. If your taking all of these why go through the realignment process?

I can see NC State as a way to get UNC to join.
I can see Wake Forest as a partial SEC member because Wake is a very good Olympic sports brand. I can see Oklahoma State as a hoops desperation pick if neither Kansas nor Duke available. Same thing with Louisville, IMO. While WVU has definitely reformed their image somewhat, some of their actions vs SEC teams left a very bad taste in the SEC's mouth, IMO. Baylor left a bad taste in the SEC's mouth as well, IMO. Think UConn-ACC.

(09-27-2023 04:58 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Suspension of disbelief broken at BYU to Big Ten.

Yeah. Right after Boston College.

(09-27-2023 04:24 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  P2 + 1 or 2 Best of Rest

Fall 2026

BIG .......... SEC ............... Conference fka Big XII
Cal ............ Alabama ......... Arizona
Illinois ....... Arkansas ......... Arizona State
Indiana ...... Auburn ........... Baylor
Iowa ......... Clemson .......... Boston College (or Wake Forest)
Kansas ........ Duke ............ BYU
Maryland ..... Florida .......... Cincinnati
Miami ......... Florida State .. Colorado
Michigan ...... Georgia ........ Connecticut
Michigan State .. Georgia Tech .. Houston
Minnesota ..... Kentucky ..... Iowa State
Missouri ........ LSU ............ Kansas State
Nebraska ....... Mississippi State .. Louisville
Northwestern .. North Carolina .... Memphis
Notre Dame ..... NC State ... Oklahoma State
Ohio State ...... Oklahoma ... Oregon State
Oregon .......... Ole Miss ...... Pitt
Penn State ..... South Carolina ... San Diego State
Purdue .......... Tennessee .... Syracuse
Rutgers ..........Texas .......... TCU
Stanford ........ Texas A&M .... Texas Tech
UCLA ........... Vanderbilt ..... UCF
USC ............. Virginia ....... USF
Washington ... VA Tech ...... Utah
Wisconsin ..... West Virginia .. Washington State

The maximum for the upper 2 should be 20 programs each - and I wouldn't mind both not expanding further at this point. Then a single entity of up to 30 programs, depending, that consolidate the other power conferences below the upper two. IOW, an autonomy group of 70 programs in total. We need to have a real cutoff line. FBS is already scraping the bottom of the barrel, and, especially, when people here think there are too many weak programs in the autonomy group, which, ironically, strengthens my argument.

Although I would be fine with PtC's scenario above.

I think you are much more likely to see four conferences of 18 teams each, rather than two of 32.