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I don't know that Memphis can "block" MTSU if that is the program the rest of the AAC decides they want to add. They can certainly drag their feet and let their opposition be known. They could even threaten to leave for the PAC/MWC. I am not saying it would be wise or that they would even follow through, but since Memphis is one of the last programs that has the ESPN restructure clause attached to them it makes sense for the rest of the AAC to want to keep that contract safe.
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(09-01-2023 02:13 PM)3DogNight Wrote:  I know the Belters think they’re the second coming of the SEC, but who in their right mind would want any of the 3 bottom feeders that’s been mentioned? The main answer will probably be location, but most people couldn’t tell you where any of the 3 are located. I don’t think they draw that good either. It looked like there were about 30 people at the GSU game last night.
A conference like the American?

All located in big markets with big enrollment.

App State or Troy or Western Kentucky could win the National Championship, but they’re still located in the sticks. The AAC would rather have a team in Norfolk or Atlanta than in random southern college town #17.

I don’t agree with that strategy, but c’mon. You’ve been paying attention to this. Charlotte and North Texas and Rice weren’t exactly highly successful athletic depts. in CUSA.
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(09-01-2023 02:21 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 02:13 PM)3DogNight Wrote:  I know the Belters think they’re the second coming of the SEC, but who in their right mind would want any of the 3 bottom feeders that’s been mentioned? The main answer will probably be location, but most people couldn’t tell you where any of the 3 are located. I don’t think they draw that good either. It looked like there were about 30 people at the GSU game last night.
A conference like the American?

All located in big markets with big enrollment.

App State or Troy or Western Kentucky could win the National Championship, but they’re still located in the sticks. The AAC would rather have a team in Norfolk or Atlanta than in random southern college town #17.

I don’t agree with that strategy, but c’mon. You’ve been paying attention to this. Charlotte and North Texas and Rice weren’t exactly highly successful athletic depts. in CUSA.
I understand the AAC strategy. Large urban populations. But the 3 schools that you mentioned aren’t going to move the needle much if any for the AAC in my opinion. As you stated, they haven’t done anything up to this point. If they don’t improve the AAC, the bottom feeder Belters certainly won’t. My point is, why add schools that most people don’t even know where they’re located at or who have never had any real success. Even if they are considered in a large urban area. You’re just adding more dead weight. As I said, I know their strategy, I just think in the end all they’re accomplishing is watering down their conference. But of course that’s a good thing for CUSA and the other G5 conferences.
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(09-01-2023 02:13 PM)3DogNight Wrote:  I know the Belters think they’re the second coming of the SEC, but who in their right mind would want any of the 3 bottom feeders that’s been mentioned? The main answer will probably be location, but most people couldn’t tell you where any of the 3 are located. I don’t think they draw that good either. It looked like there were about 30 people at the GSU game last night.

That’s sort of the point. I won’t pretend to speak for App but for me personally, we probably are where we should be. The endless pursuit of the utopia power 5 conference most of the G5 is chasing ain’t gonna happen.

I just want to play football against peer institutions with passionate fan bases that pack their stadiums. Ga State doesn’t really do that. They are trying, but they do fit the AAC mold of a metro market “potential” school.
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(09-01-2023 03:17 PM)3DogNight Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 02:21 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 02:13 PM)3DogNight Wrote:  I know the Belters think they’re the second coming of the SEC, but who in their right mind would want any of the 3 bottom feeders that’s been mentioned? The main answer will probably be location, but most people couldn’t tell you where any of the 3 are located. I don’t think they draw that good either. It looked like there were about 30 people at the GSU game last night.
A conference like the American?

All located in big markets with big enrollment.

App State or Troy or Western Kentucky could win the National Championship, but they’re still located in the sticks. The AAC would rather have a team in Norfolk or Atlanta than in random southern college town #17.

I don’t agree with that strategy, but c’mon. You’ve been paying attention to this. Charlotte and North Texas and Rice weren’t exactly highly successful athletic depts. in CUSA.
I understand the AAC strategy. Large urban populations. But the 3 schools that you mentioned aren’t going to move the needle much if any for the AAC in my opinion. As you stated, they haven’t done anything up to this point. If they don’t improve the AAC, the bottom feeder Belters certainly won’t. My point is, why add schools that most people don’t even know where they’re located at or who have never had any real success. Even if they are considered in a large urban area. You’re just adding more dead weight. As I said, I know their strategy, I just think in the end all they’re accomplishing is watering down their conference. But of course that’s a good thing for CUSA and the other G5 conferences.

Realignment is NOT a "Meritocracy".

The AAC strategy is Clear.

Of course, ARMY is a National Brand. But after that--they go back to their long held strategy.
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As a Liberty fan, I actually hope the AAC takes army and CUSA remains untouched. If this version of CUSA hangs together for 5 years...I think we will be a very solid conference.
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(09-01-2023 03:23 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  That’s sort of the point. I won’t pretend to speak for App but for me personally, we probably are where we should be. The endless pursuit of the utopia power 5 conference most of the G5 is chasing ain’t gonna happen.

I just want to play football against peer institutions with passionate fan bases that pack their stadiums. Ga State doesn’t really do that. They are trying, but they do fit the AAC mold of a metro market “potential” school.


Agree. It's also clear that the P5 will do almost anything and everything in their power within the law to prevent from associating with any of us. We all have stories about our schools, about our in-states slamming doors in our faces or actively trying to keep us in our place. All this realignment is a musical chairs to not be stuck with the riff-raff and lose status.

The game has been rigged for a long time by the 'Haves' over the 'Have Nots'. Now they're even destroying one another to remain Haves.

It sucks for us all but it was never a game our schools could've competed in. Bringing a knife to a naval fight. Rutgers and Vanderbilt each make more media money per year than the entire SBC and CUSA media deals put together.
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I believe SMU is getting 10 million a year from the AAC and they are giving the ACC 9 years of no TV money......

by my count SMU is welling to spend at least 90 million and probably 100+ million if they have to pay exit fees. So 100+ million so they wont have to play in the same conference as Rice, UNT, UTSA, UAB, FAU and UNCC.

To be fair I'm sure they are going to share in NCAA Tourney credits and they will get a larger share of college football money and should see a increase in attendance. But we really dont know if they gave up that other conference money so it could be 100+ million.

What will they get? a few years of P4 before the ACC is down to the bottom feeders and then have to raid the G4 and SMU will once again be in a conference with....

schools they are welling to lose 100+ million to get away from
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(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Hope all you want, but we ain’t goin’ nowhere. Our Admin. Ain’t lookin’ and we don’t control any market that the AAC would be interested in.

So if you really want someone gone, you better pull for Ga St.
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(09-01-2023 11:13 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Hope all you want, but we ain’t goin’ nowhere. Our Admin. Ain’t lookin’ and we don’t control any market that the AAC would be interested in.

So if you really want someone gone, you better pull for Ga St.

If the AAC calls Texas State. IF. They would say YES--before hanging up the phone.

"Our administration ain't lookin." Baloney!

Conference with Rice, NT, and UTSA vs one with ZERO Texas schools. Be honest. Come on.
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(09-01-2023 11:13 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Hope all you want, but we ain’t goin’ nowhere. Our Admin. Ain’t lookin’ and we don’t control any market that the AAC would be interested in.

So if you really want someone gone, you better pull for Ga St.

Probably should have been clearer in my statement. I think there’s a good chance either Ga State or Texas State could end up in the AAC. I’m hopeful it would be Ga State, because I don’t think they fit the SBC well. But I would be disappointed to see you all go. Geography aside Texas State fits the SBC mold and San Marcos is cool.
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Georgia State just struggled to beat Rhode Island. A big market program with lousy football. Perfect for the AAC.
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(09-02-2023 12:58 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 11:13 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Hope all you want, but we ain’t goin’ nowhere. Our Admin. Ain’t lookin’ and we don’t control any market that the AAC would be interested in.

So if you really want someone gone, you better pull for Ga St.

Probably should have been clearer in my statement. I think there’s a good chance either Ga State or Texas State could end up in the AAC. I’m hopeful it would be Ga State, because I don’t think they fit the SBC well. But I would be disappointed to see you all go. Geography aside Texas State fits the SBC mold and San Marcos is cool.

San Marcos is a cool town. I stopped by when I went to Austin and was impressed. If I would have grew up in TX I think that is where I would have gone to school.
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(09-01-2023 01:44 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Trust me, all WKU fans want the same as well. I would love to get back to the Belt...

IF Army turns the AAC down and they add a Georgia State or Texas State then WKU may as well pack their bags and get ready to come on home. I would imagine you all are priority #1 on the list for the SBC. Now whether WKU would even be open to that move is another question. CUSA seems to finally have their crap together, so moving may no longer be beneficial. As others have pointed out, none of us are heading to the P5 anytime soon.

The AAC is really the ones that are hurting. They are sitting on a war chest of exit fee money, but at some point that $7 million a year for legacy members is going to go away. The legacy schools will be forced to take a haircut in their next media deal. They can't keep treating the CUSA6 like red headed step children with half shares forever. I'll be impressed if they are able to pull Army though.
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(09-02-2023 08:20 AM)GreenDaddy Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:44 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Trust me, all WKU fans want the same as well. I would love to get back to the Belt...

IF Army turns the AAC down and they add a Georgia State or Texas State then WKU may as well pack their bags and get ready to come on home. I would imagine you all are priority #1 on the list for the SBC. Now whether WKU would even be open to that move is another question. CUSA seems to finally have their crap together, so moving may no longer be beneficial. As others have pointed out, none of us are heading to the P5 anytime soon.

The AAC is really the ones that are hurting. They are sitting on a war chest of exit fee money, but at some point that $7 million a year for legacy members is going to go away. The legacy schools will be forced to take a haircut in their next media deal. They can't keep treating the CUSA6 like red headed step children with half shares forever. I'll be impressed if they are able to pull Army though.

It’s funny you say that regarding CUSA having their **** together because it’s actually an opinion we share. There’s still a lot of work to be done but I thought it did a good job rebuilding.
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(09-02-2023 09:09 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-02-2023 08:20 AM)GreenDaddy Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:44 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Trust me, all WKU fans want the same as well. I would love to get back to the Belt...

IF Army turns the AAC down and they add a Georgia State or Texas State then WKU may as well pack their bags and get ready to come on home. I would imagine you all are priority #1 on the list for the SBC. Now whether WKU would even be open to that move is another question. CUSA seems to finally have their crap together, so moving may no longer be beneficial. As others have pointed out, none of us are heading to the P5 anytime soon.

The AAC is really the ones that are hurting. They are sitting on a war chest of exit fee money, but at some point that $7 million a year for legacy members is going to go away. The legacy schools will be forced to take a haircut in their next media deal. They can't keep treating the CUSA6 like red headed step children with half shares forever. I'll be impressed if they are able to pull Army though.

It’s funny you say that regarding CUSA having their **** together because it’s actually an opinion we share. There’s still a lot of work to be done but I thought it did a good job rebuilding.

I think most of us think CUSA did as good of a job as they could’ve done. Honestly I think this could be a solid conference if it holds together.
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(09-02-2023 08:14 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  
(09-02-2023 12:58 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 11:13 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Hope all you want, but we ain’t goin’ nowhere. Our Admin. Ain’t lookin’ and we don’t control any market that the AAC would be interested in.

So if you really want someone gone, you better pull for Ga St.

Probably should have been clearer in my statement. I think there’s a good chance either Ga State or Texas State could end up in the AAC. I’m hopeful it would be Ga State, because I don’t think they fit the SBC well. But I would be disappointed to see you all go. Geography aside Texas State fits the SBC mold and San Marcos is cool.

San Marcos is a cool town. I stopped by when I went to Austin and was impressed. If I would have grew up in TX I think that is where I would have gone to school.
I thought the same thing for a while. But then I realized I wanted to go to a school with a decent academic reputation…
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(09-02-2023 09:09 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-02-2023 08:20 AM)GreenDaddy Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:44 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Trust me, all WKU fans want the same as well. I would love to get back to the Belt...

IF Army turns the AAC down and they add a Georgia State or Texas State then WKU may as well pack their bags and get ready to come on home. I would imagine you all are priority #1 on the list for the SBC. Now whether WKU would even be open to that move is another question. CUSA seems to finally have their crap together, so moving may no longer be beneficial. As others have pointed out, none of us are heading to the P5 anytime soon.

The AAC is really the ones that are hurting. They are sitting on a war chest of exit fee money, but at some point that $7 million a year for legacy members is going to go away. The legacy schools will be forced to take a haircut in their next media deal. They can't keep treating the CUSA6 like red headed step children with half shares forever. I'll be impressed if they are able to pull Army though.

It’s funny you say that regarding CUSA having their **** together because it’s actually an opinion we share. There’s still a lot of work to be done but I thought it did a good job rebuilding.

Yes, they did a good job. From an outsiders viewpoint there is still a lot of work to be done as you mentioned, but they seemed to have turned the ship back in the right direction with a few key things they can build on.

1. And this can't be stated enough. Getting back with ESPN even if it meant playing October weeknight games. I've always been of the opinion that ESPN can make you or break you as a G5 whether anyone likes it or not. It's important to have them promote your games and get your programs visible.

2. Moving the basketball tournament back to an actual arena in Huntsville, Al, which is a more central location near some of the larger fanbases. Sometimes it's the small things that matter, and playing your tournament in an AAU style on multiple courts with curtains separating them, was not a good look.

3. The addition of Liberty. Love them, hate them, it doesn't matter. No one can deny they put money into athletics and it shows. They will make the league better.
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RE: Calford, SMU to ACC
(09-01-2023 11:25 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 11:13 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 01:36 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets hope they take Georgia State because that means they are quickly filling up a conference with schools that lose and lose and lose.....they play in or with in and area with lots of eyes and that is all that matters.

In the end just as CUSA 3.0 found out losing doesn't usually change quickly. Schools that lose are getting fans that are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. So not very many EYES on them. While I dont expect CUSA to hold together for 5 years....

if this conference does and actually wins on the field and court good things can happen. Rice and UNT were some of the lowest viewed schools in CUSA when on TV. FAU's numbers were never very good. UNCC might be worse than those three and UAB, for a city that is known as college football USA for eyes....Well they hardly ever tuned into UAB

With respect to Ga State, I have my suspicions it’s either them or Tx State who will find themselves in the AAC as you alluded to. And I’m hopeful of that because I’d like to see the Sun Belt immediately turn around and add you guys. Because of and despite the fact that you beat our ass in our bowl game. You’d be a great add if it worked out.

Hope all you want, but we ain’t goin’ nowhere. Our Admin. Ain’t lookin’ and we don’t control any market that the AAC would be interested in.

So if you really want someone gone, you better pull for Ga St.

If the AAC calls Texas State. IF. They would say YES--before hanging up the phone.

"Our administration ain't lookin." Baloney!

Conference with Rice, NT, and UTSA vs one with ZERO Texas schools. Be honest. Come on.


Our Admin. Publicly stated that TXST is NOT pursuing a conference change.

Even IF we were, we don’t fit the AAC profile. We don’t control a Market.
We are NOT in a large Metro Area.

AAC has already stated that they will pursue Army.

Until the situation with The MW and PAC is settled, I would hope that we’d stand PAT regardless.

IF the PAC 2 and MW merge and then peel off the top 4 from the AAC, then the AAC is definitely NOT the place to be.

Finally, as we ALL know, when the AAC really needs to backfill, CUSA appears to be their go to conference.
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RE: Calford, SMU to ACC
(09-01-2023 02:21 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  
(09-01-2023 02:13 PM)3DogNight Wrote:  I know the Belters think they’re the second coming of the SEC, but who in their right mind would want any of the 3 bottom feeders that’s been mentioned? The main answer will probably be location, but most people couldn’t tell you where any of the 3 are located. I don’t think they draw that good either. It looked like there were about 30 people at the GSU game last night.
A conference like the American?

All located in big markets with big enrollment.

App State or Troy or Western Kentucky could win the National Championship, but they’re still located in the sticks. The AAC would rather have a team in Norfolk or Atlanta than in random southern college town #17.

I don’t agree with that strategy, but c’mon. You’ve been paying attention to this. Charlotte and North Texas and Rice weren’t exactly highly successful athletic depts. in CUSA.

UTSA and FAU also. Yes very recent success for both, but both have terrible Alumni support and little league basketball arenas. Nobody cares about the schools even in their millions plus metro areas
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