(08-27-2023 07:58 AM)Todor Wrote:  It’s gonna be one hell of a civil war. And it’s going to be an absolute feeding frenzy of nations coming to get back what they’re owed. They will be the nice ones.

The less nice ones will be here just for retribution.

Just imagine the divisions of this society that will be fighting each other.

Regular army fighting citizens
State national guards fighting citizens
State national guards fighting each other
Foreign funded armies
Billionaire funded militias
Drug cartels
Urban gangs, isolated survivalists, citizen militias, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans groups, various Christian groups, Muslims, Jews, urban versus rural…

People will be praying for a country like China to save us from ourselves and install some order…

Iraq’s sectarian violence is going to look like a Montessori school story time and if it gets stoked 10% of the way we have done to countries, it may just be over quickly for us because we’ll be dead or starved to death before anyone has time to even think.

Nah. It'll be pretty much DC, CA,OR,WA and the NE against everybody else. If you can't figure out who win that in a matter of days, I can't help you.

I'd say that this thread went off the rails but I don't think it ever was ON the rails.

Sheesh.

(08-28-2023 04:29 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'd say that this thread went off the rails but I don't think it ever was ON the rails.

Sheesh.

I asked who was lying about the possibility of Covid mandates, I said that God has passed judgment on this nation and that we're all going to hell to someone, and here we are.

(08-28-2023 01:13 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 11:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:35 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 08:48 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  At what point did I say that Jesus is a liar? I didn't. I said that the church is fake because they don't preach his gospel anymore. They preach leftist politics. They are also gay, but that is self-explanatory. My mind works differently than most people. My depression allows me to analyze things deeper than the average person. I pity people like you that jump to conclusions and accuse me of being something that I know that I am not. You don't know me at all except from what I post. I have been clear in my beliefs over and over again, and it is still not good enough for people like you.

Andy, you said word for word that no amount of being born again or accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior will change the fact that we are all going to hell.

And now you ask where you called Jesus a liar? Is that supposed to be a joke or are you actually that clueless?

Now you say you pity ME and that I jumped to conclusions?

Do have any idea how incoherent and unstable you sound here?

Its not me whose approval you need Andy, whether you are "good enough" for me has noting to do with anything. Being "good enough" is not even how the Gospel works. Were all broken on some level Andy, that is not unique to your life. That is why He died on the cross for us. And you don't win His approval by being "good enough" and you certainly don't win it by gaining my approval.

The last thing on earth you want to do is say Jesus is a liar who will turn his back on His true born again believers. Notice I said true believers, not apostate Christians. MASSIVE difference there.

Again, I did not call Jesus a liar. I did not at any time say he was a liar, nor did I use the word liar to describe him. You, on the other hand, did. I said that no amount of excepting him as your Lord and Savior will save you or any other good Christian from being condemned to hell. Why? As I said in the beginning, everyone has their limits, including God and Jesus. God is not a kind God. He is a vengeful God. Do you not think that God and Jesus are looking down on the world with anger and sadness at what we have done to it and to ourselves? Do you not think that they want to throw their hands up and give up on us? God has already destroyed the world once with the flood. He spared it a second time by sending Jesus into world, and the Sanhedrin had him crucified. Much like society in general, everyone has a limited number of chances to make it the right way, and when you repeatedly screw up and get into trouble, you are inching closer to being condemned for the rest of your life.

Like I said before your words are incoherent and sound pretty unstable.

Christ tells us once we are born again our salvation is eternal and it can never be lost, but Andy says that Jesus is going to send us to hell anyway, which of course makes Christ a liar. Then Andy says he didn't call Jesus a liar.

That is unstable incoherent gibberish.

You're an ignorant person filled with hatred for people that don't acquiesce to your mindset. I can't help you.

Andy, if I truly hated you I would never bothered correcting your statement about Jesus sending his true believer to hell or pointing out what the Gospel is and how you can be saved.

Just because you battle depression does not mean everyone hates you. At no point did I go ballistic and most certainly do not hate you.

Whether you believe it or not, there is eternal security, you don't have to go to hell and its surprisingly easy to have eternal salvation if you really want it. I want you to have those things and I'll keep you in my prayers.

(08-28-2023 08:38 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 01:13 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 11:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:35 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Andy, you said word for word that no amount of being born again or accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior will change the fact that we are all going to hell.

And now you ask where you called Jesus a liar? Is that supposed to be a joke or are you actually that clueless?

Now you say you pity ME and that I jumped to conclusions?

Do have any idea how incoherent and unstable you sound here?

Its not me whose approval you need Andy, whether you are "good enough" for me has noting to do with anything. Being "good enough" is not even how the Gospel works. Were all broken on some level Andy, that is not unique to your life. That is why He died on the cross for us. And you don't win His approval by being "good enough" and you certainly don't win it by gaining my approval.

The last thing on earth you want to do is say Jesus is a liar who will turn his back on His true born again believers. Notice I said true believers, not apostate Christians. MASSIVE difference there.

Again, I did not call Jesus a liar. I did not at any time say he was a liar, nor did I use the word liar to describe him. You, on the other hand, did. I said that no amount of excepting him as your Lord and Savior will save you or any other good Christian from being condemned to hell. Why? As I said in the beginning, everyone has their limits, including God and Jesus. God is not a kind God. He is a vengeful God. Do you not think that God and Jesus are looking down on the world with anger and sadness at what we have done to it and to ourselves? Do you not think that they want to throw their hands up and give up on us? God has already destroyed the world once with the flood. He spared it a second time by sending Jesus into world, and the Sanhedrin had him crucified. Much like society in general, everyone has a limited number of chances to make it the right way, and when you repeatedly screw up and get into trouble, you are inching closer to being condemned for the rest of your life.

Like I said before your words are incoherent and sound pretty unstable.

Christ tells us once we are born again our salvation is eternal and it can never be lost, but Andy says that Jesus is going to send us to hell anyway, which of course makes Christ a liar. Then Andy says he didn't call Jesus a liar.

That is unstable incoherent gibberish.

You're an ignorant person filled with hatred for people that don't acquiesce to your mindset. I can't help you.

Andy, if I truly hated you I would never bothered correcting your statement about Jesus sending his true believer to hell or pointing out what the Gospel is and how you can be saved.

Just because you battle depression does not mean everyone hates you. At no point did I go ballistic and most certainly do not hate you.

“Look everybody, see how nice and compassionate I am now. Sure, I treat people like I hate them, but that’s just their fault for misunderstanding. I call them crazy lunatics and psychos because I love them! I may call people all those nasty names and mock their problems but I always throw a few scriptures in too. That way people will think my heart is full of love for people and they’ll ignore how I act 90% of the time. And if they get anything wrong about me, I know it’s because they are evil disingenuous liars and tools of satan, and I only point that out repeatedly because I’m so nice.

Most important point to remember, ‘at no point did I go ballistic.’ And that’s the truth because I said it.”

(08-28-2023 09:01 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 08:38 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 01:13 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 11:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:35 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Again, I did not call Jesus a liar. I did not at any time say he was a liar, nor did I use the word liar to describe him. You, on the other hand, did. I said that no amount of excepting him as your Lord and Savior will save you or any other good Christian from being condemned to hell. Why? As I said in the beginning, everyone has their limits, including God and Jesus. God is not a kind God. He is a vengeful God. Do you not think that God and Jesus are looking down on the world with anger and sadness at what we have done to it and to ourselves? Do you not think that they want to throw their hands up and give up on us? God has already destroyed the world once with the flood. He spared it a second time by sending Jesus into world, and the Sanhedrin had him crucified. Much like society in general, everyone has a limited number of chances to make it the right way, and when you repeatedly screw up and get into trouble, you are inching closer to being condemned for the rest of your life.

Like I said before your words are incoherent and sound pretty unstable.

Christ tells us once we are born again our salvation is eternal and it can never be lost, but Andy says that Jesus is going to send us to hell anyway, which of course makes Christ a liar. Then Andy says he didn't call Jesus a liar.

That is unstable incoherent gibberish.

You're an ignorant person filled with hatred for people that don't acquiesce to your mindset. I can't help you.

Andy, if I truly hated you I would never bothered correcting your statement about Jesus sending his true believer to hell or pointing out what the Gospel is and how you can be saved.

Just because you battle depression does not mean everyone hates you. At no point did I go ballistic and most certainly do not hate you.

“Look everybody, see how nice and compassionate I am now. Sure, I treat people like I hate them, but that’s just their fault for misunderstanding. I call them crazy lunatics and psychos because I love them! I may call people all those nasty names and mock their problems but I always throw a few scriptures in too. That way people will think my heart is full of love for people and they’ll ignore how I act 90% of the time. And if they get anything wrong about me, I know it’s because they are evil disingenuous liars and tools of satan, and I only point that out repeatedly because I’m so nice.

Most important point to remember, ‘at no point did I go ballistic.’ And that’s the truth because I said it.”

I see I continue to live rent free in your head.

My man you have nothing but seething hatred for me in thread after thread and I never return the favor. So its pretty laughable to see you pointing the finger at me accusing hatred. Hypocrisy much?

Let’s have a quick rundown of the Revenge style of love and compassion just in the last 3 pages. If this doesn’t prove what a kind soul he is, than you all are just too stupid to understand him and are liars. Lol.

“I have suspected for a while there was something fake and off about you.“

“Your the fake one who clearly has much deeper problems than most people here”

“Is that supposed to be a joke or are you actually that clueless?”

“Do you have any idea how incoherent and unstable you sound here?”

“Like I said before your words are incoherent sound pretty unstable.”

“That is unstable incoherent gibberish.”

“You have nothing but seething hatred for me in thread after thread and I never return the favor.”

(08-28-2023 09:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  Let’s have a quick rundown of the Revenge style of love and compassion just in the last 3 pages. If this doesn’t prove what a kind soul he is, than you all are just too stupid to understand him and are liars. Lol.

“I have suspected for a while there was something fake and off about you.“

“Your the fake one who clearly has much deeper problems than most people here”

“Is that supposed to be a joke or are you actually that clueless?”

“Do you have any idea how incoherent and unstable you sound here?”

“Like I said before your words are incoherent sound pretty unstable.”

“That is unstable incoherent gibberish.”

“You have nothing but seething hatred for me in thread after thread and I never return the favor.”

I don't have a problem with any of those statements and I stand behind every one of them.

When someone posts that Jesus is sending all His believers to hell and everyone in the nation is going to hell, I have no problem pointing out those comments sound off and kinda unstable.

And I am also going to point out the obvious contradiction between those statements and the Words of Jesus and remind that poster that there is peace and salvation through Him and that none of us have to go to hell. Much less everyone in the country.

And I'm not going to stop saying those things just because Todor has yet another meltdown over it.

(08-28-2023 08:38 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 01:13 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 11:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:35 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Andy, you said word for word that no amount of being born again or accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior will change the fact that we are all going to hell.

And now you ask where you called Jesus a liar? Is that supposed to be a joke or are you actually that clueless?

Now you say you pity ME and that I jumped to conclusions?

Do have any idea how incoherent and unstable you sound here?

Its not me whose approval you need Andy, whether you are "good enough" for me has noting to do with anything. Being "good enough" is not even how the Gospel works. Were all broken on some level Andy, that is not unique to your life. That is why He died on the cross for us. And you don't win His approval by being "good enough" and you certainly don't win it by gaining my approval.

The last thing on earth you want to do is say Jesus is a liar who will turn his back on His true born again believers. Notice I said true believers, not apostate Christians. MASSIVE difference there.

Again, I did not call Jesus a liar. I did not at any time say he was a liar, nor did I use the word liar to describe him. You, on the other hand, did. I said that no amount of excepting him as your Lord and Savior will save you or any other good Christian from being condemned to hell. Why? As I said in the beginning, everyone has their limits, including God and Jesus. God is not a kind God. He is a vengeful God. Do you not think that God and Jesus are looking down on the world with anger and sadness at what we have done to it and to ourselves? Do you not think that they want to throw their hands up and give up on us? God has already destroyed the world once with the flood. He spared it a second time by sending Jesus into world, and the Sanhedrin had him crucified. Much like society in general, everyone has a limited number of chances to make it the right way, and when you repeatedly screw up and get into trouble, you are inching closer to being condemned for the rest of your life.

Like I said before your words are incoherent and sound pretty unstable.

Christ tells us once we are born again our salvation is eternal and it can never be lost, but Andy says that Jesus is going to send us to hell anyway, which of course makes Christ a liar. Then Andy says he didn't call Jesus a liar.

That is unstable incoherent gibberish.

You're an ignorant person filled with hatred for people that don't acquiesce to your mindset. I can't help you.

Andy, if I truly hated you I would never bothered correcting your statement about Jesus sending his true believer to hell or pointing out what the Gospel is and how you can be saved.

Just because you battle depression does not mean everyone hates you. At no point did I go ballistic and most certainly do not hate you.

Whether you believe it or not, there is eternal security, you don't have to go to hell and its surprisingly easy to have eternal salvation if you really want it. I want you to have those things and I'll keep you in my prayers.

I don't hate you either. I accept the Jesus is the Son of God, and that those who believe in him will have eternal life. However, since it appears that we are in the end times, I believe that God has cast his judgment upon the world, and that people are destined for hell. Will good people be spared? Yes, but at the price of the world being destroyed. Christians have forgotten that God comes before Jesus. God created the world and Jesus in his image. He is the word made flesh through Jesus. Christians put Jesus before God, when it should be the other way around.

(08-28-2023 10:09 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 08:38 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 01:13 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 11:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 09:35 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Again, I did not call Jesus a liar. I did not at any time say he was a liar, nor did I use the word liar to describe him. You, on the other hand, did. I said that no amount of excepting him as your Lord and Savior will save you or any other good Christian from being condemned to hell. Why? As I said in the beginning, everyone has their limits, including God and Jesus. God is not a kind God. He is a vengeful God. Do you not think that God and Jesus are looking down on the world with anger and sadness at what we have done to it and to ourselves? Do you not think that they want to throw their hands up and give up on us? God has already destroyed the world once with the flood. He spared it a second time by sending Jesus into world, and the Sanhedrin had him crucified. Much like society in general, everyone has a limited number of chances to make it the right way, and when you repeatedly screw up and get into trouble, you are inching closer to being condemned for the rest of your life.

Like I said before your words are incoherent and sound pretty unstable.

Christ tells us once we are born again our salvation is eternal and it can never be lost, but Andy says that Jesus is going to send us to hell anyway, which of course makes Christ a liar. Then Andy says he didn't call Jesus a liar.

That is unstable incoherent gibberish.

You're an ignorant person filled with hatred for people that don't acquiesce to your mindset. I can't help you.

Andy, if I truly hated you I would never bothered correcting your statement about Jesus sending his true believer to hell or pointing out what the Gospel is and how you can be saved.

Just because you battle depression does not mean everyone hates you. At no point did I go ballistic and most certainly do not hate you.

Whether you believe it or not, there is eternal security, you don't have to go to hell and its surprisingly easy to have eternal salvation if you really want it. I want you to have those things and I'll keep you in my prayers.

I don't hate you either. I accept the Jesus is the Son of God, and that those who believe in him will have eternal life. However, since it appears that we are in the end times, I believe that God has cast his judgment upon the world, and that people are destined for hell. Will good people be spared? Yes, but at the price of the world being destroyed. Christians have forgotten that God comes before Jesus. God created the world and Jesus in his image. He is the word made flesh through Jesus. Christians put Jesus before God, when it should be the other way around.

Well again that is the complete opposite of what the NT just plainly states. The Bible teaches Jesus is the Creator and all things were created by Him and through Him.

Just as it says Jesus is the only way to the Father and there is no other way to the Father but through Him. We have to go through Jesus because that is the way the Father designed it. The Father and the Son are on the same page here, they are not in opposition they are one in the same.

There is one mediator between God and man and its through Jesus Christ.

These are key and central truths of the faith and the Word, so its vital we be clear on them.

There is no avoiding the judgment on this fallen world and sin. Its happening and God decreed it long ago. Its our job to spread the Gospel until that day comes.

Remember Psalm 23, through we walk through the valley of the shadow of death, we should fear no evil.

"Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matt 11:28-30

Let not your heart be troubled, Andy.