Unofficially????

I hope both tell the MWAC to get lost.

They won't--- if presented with a good enough deal. It's a business. Fan emotions are not the priority.

But yes---anyone can see why UTEP fans would "hate" the MW--the way they have been ignored and treated by that league and its members--for a LONG time.

Utep disclosed it's interest two years ago and the MWC turned them down. The MWC knows utep is still interested.

(08-01-2023 10:23 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  Utep disclosed it's interest two years ago and the MWC turned them down. The MWC knows utep is still interested.

I hope that UTEP and NMSU stays in CUSA to help strengthen bball which I think will be CUSA's strong point moving forward, however I would completely understand if one or both bolts to the MWC due to geography. And just like the MWC knows that UTEP is interested, the WKU AD publicly stated that if WKU wanted in the MAC a couple years ago, it makes sense for us to want in there in the future as well. I know he said several of the shortcoming in CUSA have been fixed like the bball tourney location, streamlining where games are on TV and more money, but CUSA is still subject to membership churn and backfills would all have to come from the FCS. The MAC just need to find a dance partner other than MTSU since they burned their bridge and that a move would make sense financially as well for us and the conference and its existing members.

I’ve heard some rumblings too. Maybe it’s just preparations in case they do leave but where there is smoke…

I am totally NOT in favor of going to the MAC!

(not that my opinion carries ANY weight)


IMHO MT still has high hopes for the AAC--may not happen--but that is their goal.

And who knows how things fall? They may actually have a chance at the AAC.

(08-03-2023 12:50 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I am totally NOT in favor of going to the MAC!

(not that my opinion carries ANY weight)


IMHO MT still has high hopes for the AAC--may not happen--but that is their goal.

And who knows how things fall? They may actually have a chance at the AAC.

Will the AAC's next contract be worth a lot less? I mean, they lost Cincy, BYU, and Houston, their 3 best teams, and then filled with CUSA teams - some of which weren't even good like Rice and Charlotte. I think MTSU and Liberty want the AAC, but the draw may not be as strong as it once was.

If UTEP and NMS did leave, I'd expect it to look something like this:

WKU
MTSU
Liberty
Jax State
Kennesaw State
FIU
La. Tech
Sam Houston St.
Missouri St.
Tarleton St.

Those would be the 10. Then within a year or two they add Stephen F. Austin and either Delaware or EKU.

(08-03-2023 02:10 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(08-03-2023 12:50 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I am totally NOT in favor of going to the MAC!

(not that my opinion carries ANY weight)


IMHO MT still has high hopes for the AAC--may not happen--but that is their goal.

And who knows how things fall? They may actually have a chance at the AAC.

Will the AAC's next contract be worth a lot less? I mean, they lost Cincy, BYU, and Houston, their 3 best teams, and then filled with CUSA teams - some of which weren't even good like Rice and Charlotte. I think MTSU and Liberty want the AAC, but the draw may not be as strong as it once was.

Yeah I don’t love the idea of the AAC.

(08-03-2023 02:10 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(08-03-2023 12:50 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I am totally NOT in favor of going to the MAC!

(not that my opinion carries ANY weight)


IMHO MT still has high hopes for the AAC--may not happen--but that is their goal.

And who knows how things fall? They may actually have a chance at the AAC.

Will the AAC's next contract be worth a lot less? I mean, they lost Cincy, BYU, and Houston, their 3 best teams, and then filled with CUSA teams - some of which weren't even good like Rice and Charlotte. I think MTSU and Liberty want the AAC, but the draw may not be as strong as it once was.

AAC will get less for their next contract, but it will still be the best amongst the G5. Aresco has been fantastic.

(08-03-2023 08:43 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(08-01-2023 10:23 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  Utep disclosed it's interest two years ago and the MWC turned them down. The MWC knows utep is still interested.

I hope that UTEP and NMSU stays in CUSA to help strengthen bball which I think will be CUSA's strong point moving forward, however I would completely understand if one or both bolts to the MWC due to geography. And just like the MWC knows that UTEP is interested, the WKU AD publicly stated that if WKU wanted in the MAC a couple years ago, it makes sense for us to want in there in the future as well. I know he said several of the shortcoming in CUSA have been fixed like the bball tourney location, streamlining where games are on TV and more money, but CUSA is still subject to membership churn and backfills would all have to come from the FCS. The MAC just need to find a dance partner other than MTSU since they burned their bridge and that a move would make sense financially as well for us and the conference and its existing members.

Mehears WKU could have gone to MAC without MT, but "chose" to say in C-USA.

(08-04-2023 02:20 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(08-03-2023 08:43 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(08-01-2023 10:23 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  Utep disclosed it's interest two years ago and the MWC turned them down. The MWC knows utep is still interested.

I hope that UTEP and NMSU stays in CUSA to help strengthen bball which I think will be CUSA's strong point moving forward, however I would completely understand if one or both bolts to the MWC due to geography. And just like the MWC knows that UTEP is interested, the WKU AD publicly stated that if WKU wanted in the MAC a couple years ago, it makes sense for us to want in there in the future as well. I know he said several of the shortcoming in CUSA have been fixed like the bball tourney location, streamlining where games are on TV and more money, but CUSA is still subject to membership churn and backfills would all have to come from the FCS. The MAC just need to find a dance partner other than MTSU since they burned their bridge and that a move would make sense financially as well for us and the conference and its existing members.

Mehears WKU could have gone to MAC without MT, but "chose" to say in C-USA.

No, the MAC made the decision not to move forward with just WKU.

(08-04-2023 10:55 PM)topper Wrote:  

(08-04-2023 02:20 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(08-03-2023 08:43 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(08-01-2023 10:23 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  Utep disclosed it's interest two years ago and the MWC turned them down. The MWC knows utep is still interested.

I hope that UTEP and NMSU stays in CUSA to help strengthen bball which I think will be CUSA's strong point moving forward, however I would completely understand if one or both bolts to the MWC due to geography. And just like the MWC knows that UTEP is interested, the WKU AD publicly stated that if WKU wanted in the MAC a couple years ago, it makes sense for us to want in there in the future as well. I know he said several of the shortcoming in CUSA have been fixed like the bball tourney location, streamlining where games are on TV and more money, but CUSA is still subject to membership churn and backfills would all have to come from the FCS. The MAC just need to find a dance partner other than MTSU since they burned their bridge and that a move would make sense financially as well for us and the conference and its existing members.

Mehears WKU could have gone to MAC without MT, but "chose" to say in C-USA.

No, the MAC made the decision not to move forward with just WKU.

This is true, but it's safe to say the lines of communication are still open.

(08-05-2023 08:21 AM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  

(08-04-2023 10:55 PM)topper Wrote:  

(08-04-2023 02:20 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(08-03-2023 08:43 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(08-01-2023 10:23 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  Utep disclosed it's interest two years ago and the MWC turned them down. The MWC knows utep is still interested.

I hope that UTEP and NMSU stays in CUSA to help strengthen bball which I think will be CUSA's strong point moving forward, however I would completely understand if one or both bolts to the MWC due to geography. And just like the MWC knows that UTEP is interested, the WKU AD publicly stated that if WKU wanted in the MAC a couple years ago, it makes sense for us to want in there in the future as well. I know he said several of the shortcoming in CUSA have been fixed like the bball tourney location, streamlining where games are on TV and more money, but CUSA is still subject to membership churn and backfills would all have to come from the FCS. The MAC just need to find a dance partner other than MTSU since they burned their bridge and that a move would make sense financially as well for us and the conference and its existing members.

Mehears WKU could have gone to MAC without MT, but "chose" to say in C-USA.

No, the MAC made the decision not to move forward with just WKU.

This is true, but it's safe to say the lines of communication are still open.

Yes, definitely.

On February 3, 1959, American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and "The Big Bopper" J. P. Richardson were all killed in a plane crash. The event later became known as "The Day the Music Died" after singer-songwriter Don McLean referred to it as such in his 1971 song "American Pie.” Will August 4, 2023 become known as the “The Day College Football As We Knew It Died?” I know this realignment mess has been going on for some time now, but there seemed to be something different about the events yesterday. Some conferences have expanded and some grown smaller. Some have even been on life support. But yesterday… there just seemed to be something different about yesterday. I’m not suggesting that this realignment madness will end. No, I think it will continue on. Even those who seem to be in great shape right now, will probably not be content with what they have. How long before we have the Golden Arches plastered on a helmet or the football uniforms looking like NASCAR drivers? How long before we hear, “This 3rd down and 4 is brought to you by Cooper Tires.” I read yesterday that FSU was going to start receiving money from Chase. Some kind of loophole that exists in the state of Florida. Will this thirst for power and money ever stop? Of course not. I remember someone posting that this greed was the result of capitalism. Greed doesn’t discriminate against anyone. Capitalism doesn’t have exclusive rights to greed. There’s greed in socialism, there’s greed in communism, there’s greed in totalitarianism. And there’s definitely greed in college sports. Greed for power and money is an intoxicating thing. Will this greed be the ultimate end to college sports?

There is no point in formal applications to the MWC before the MWC loses anyone. If the PAC miraculously survives and is able to add from the MWC/AAC, then UTEP/NMSU talks would heat up. Until then there is no point. This tweet is a big nothing burger.

(08-05-2023 10:30 AM)3DogNight Wrote:  On February 3, 1959, American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and "The Big Bopper" J. P. Richardson were all killed in a plane crash. The event later became known as "The Day the Music Died" after singer-songwriter Don McLean referred to it as such in his 1971 song "American Pie.” Will August 4, 2023 become known as the “The Day College Football As We Knew It Died?” I know this realignment mess has been going on for some time now, but there seemed to be something different about the events yesterday. Some conferences have expanded and some grown smaller. Some have even been on life support. But yesterday… there just seemed to be something different about yesterday. I’m not suggesting that this realignment madness will end. No, I think it will continue on. Even those who seem to be in great shape right now, will probably not be content with what they have. How long before we have the Golden Arches plastered on a helmet or the football uniforms looking like NASCAR drivers? How long before we hear, “This 3rd down and 4 is brought to you by Cooper Tires.” I read yesterday that FSU was going to start receiving money from Chase. Some kind of loophole that exists in the state of Florida. Will this thirst for power and money ever stop? Of course not. I remember someone posting that this greed was the result of capitalism. Greed doesn’t discriminate against anyone. Capitalism doesn’t have exclusive rights to greed. There’s greed in socialism, there’s greed in communism, there’s greed in totalitarianism. And there’s definitely greed in college sports. Greed for power and money is an intoxicating thing. Will this greed be the ultimate end to college sports?

Great Observations! Loved American Pie, too. Music actually got a "Helluva Lot Better" after the fifties for a couple of decades. There was a resurgence in the sixties & seventies! I contend it actually was on life support until the mid 80's when it really died out. College Football seems to be on life support but it took a terminal blow last week!

Like anyone is surprised that a poster named 3DogNight would be making old musical references.